FDR, Democrats saved Poland

FDR, Democrats saved Poland

There are 38 comments on the Connecticut Post story from Sep 12, 2008, titled FDR, Democrats saved Poland. In it, Connecticut Post reports that:

In reply to Stanley F. Muzyk's letter of Aug. 27, I would remind him that the Democratic Party under Franklin Delano Roosevelt's leadership passed the Draft Act before World War II.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Connecticut Post.

First Prev
of 2
Next Last
John C

AOL

#21 Sep 14, 2008
paul wrote:
<quoted text>
We've discussed this common sense thing before. Just because you think it, doesn't make it so.
It wouldn't be so bad if you weren't so arrogant asserting your delusions.
Try reading up on a topic before getting on your soap box.
If you think I am arrogant, I apologize. But then, at least look in the mirror.
EX-BPT Bob

Chesapeake, VA

#22 Sep 14, 2008
I know you are-but what am I.........

The train jumped the track......again!
paul

Elizabeth, NJ

#23 Sep 14, 2008
John C wrote:
<quoted text>
If you think I am arrogant, I apologize. But then, at least look in the mirror.
moi? Mr Humble? I avoid mirrors. There's an aging face I don't recognize.
bill phoenix

Maricopa, AZ

#24 Sep 14, 2008
paul wrote:
<quoted text>
moi? Mr Humble? I avoid mirrors. There's an aging face I don't recognize.
J C is an expert on all things, i think you got to him he missed spellcheck .I have asked him to clarify his love of HITLER,TOJO, STALIN and his love of socialism he doesnt seem to try. He wont move to FRANCE maybe his cheese eating friends dont want him there either(they recognize a turn coat to). His recent post of his "credentials" i feel was a wish list of a old man who wants to be admired but is to pompous to understand or believe others might have a valid point.J C you brag about your so called acomplishments but come across like a self promoting gas bag.I for one have been insulted by your self promoting comments as i see others have to. PAUL,GENETICS and others have taken your ill thought out comments to task, i applaud them.In closeing i can only hope your happy with your warped lonely life. TRY TO REMBER PAST POSTS AND STOP TALKING OUT OF BOTH SDES OF YOUR FACE.PAUL i for one think your answers to some of the stories are right on the are money.
bill phoenix

Maricopa, AZ

#25 Sep 14, 2008
For give the typos JC i got worked up just thinking how wonderful you think you are.
Huh

Montgomery, AL

#26 Sep 14, 2008
paul wrote:
<quoted text>
John never has any solutions. Just a lot of ineffective blather that one can expect from a left winger. I actually think he would like to see terrorists kill American's here so he can bitch about Pres Bush. Too bad, Pres Bush has prevented all attacks during the last 7 years.
Pres Bush policy of staying on the offensive against terror has been effective. Right now we are attacking terrorist bases in Pakistan, al Qaeda's last stronghold.
Wait a minute. Didn't McCain criticize Obama for "war mongering" towards Pakistan? Could it quite possibly be true that Obama is right! Ding Ding Ding! I think we have a winner!
Huh

Montgomery, AL

#27 Sep 14, 2008
EX-BPT Bob wrote:
If the Dems and the isolationists had not ignored the Broken Versailles Treaty after WW1, The spread of Hitler's machine could have been Isolated thereby saving lives, and avoiding the holocaust. It could of gotten us out of the Depression sooner, also.
FDR would not have gotten alarmed to the point of sending arms to Britain if Churchill did not warn him that we may be fighting Britain's arsenal under German control if Britain fell.
Also, if FDR wouldnt have made backdoor promises to Stalin (without telling congress before he croaked)about postwar Europe and China, the world would have been on better terms.
God Bless the greatest Generation- they truly saved our world!
Whoah, is that from Wikipedia? You need to open a real history book! Don't you know only simpletons post on there?

Come on! Who were the Isolationists? That's right, REPUBLICANS. Wilson was all for the Treaty of Versailles. Heck, who cast the lone vote against WWII? That's right, a REPUBLICAN. Who was itching for the fight? FDR, a DEMOCRAT.

Please don't pass REVISIONIST history off as fact.

So, let's hear you defend Herbert Hoover. Oh, I see, the liberal historians have defamed his great legacy.

2+2=5 ehh?
Huh

Montgomery, AL

#28 Sep 14, 2008
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
How right you are. The similarities between Obama and Neville Chamberlin and his policy of appeasement send chills down my spine. Chamberlin viewed Hitler's early actions as a conflict which did not concern the British people and that being passive towards those actions would somehow assure peace for the British people. Well, a couple of years later, Hitler had overrun most of Europe and bombs were pouring down on London. You can be assured that if we follow Obama's retreat from the war on terror that we will be fighting the terrorists on our own streets again here in the USA.
I love hearing the libs talk about how Clinton "balanced the budget." He did this by decimating our military, hamstringing our intelligence capabilities to the point that we were left wide open to the 9/11 attacks and instituting a tax hike that remains to this day the largest tax increase in the history of the world. And by the way, how about some credit to the Republican Congress which forced Clinton to accept welfare reform which required able bodied people to get up off their backsides and get a job instead of collecting the government dole for the rest of their lives?
Do people really want to follow Obama down the road of passivism and handouts to freeloaders??
Okay, I don't have any fancy degrees. I did complete Government at Jonathan Law Highschool. I remember learning that Congress approves the budget that the President signs into law. So, who controlled Congress during the age of Clinton? Anyone remember Newt Gingrich? What party was he? I can't remember...

Who fought war on the cheap in this decade? Who believed in a smaller military fought mainly by special forces? Rumsfeld?

The fact is, we had a Cold War style military, and the military was bloated. Our #1 enemy drew down, so likely we would as well.

Oh, and onto one thing. Both presidential canidates want to add another +40K troops to the USMC/USA. With that being sad, after 8 years of GW, maybe the military is too small?
Huh

Montgomery, AL

#29 Sep 14, 2008
EX-BPT Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
So what you are saying is that if the United States Stops pursuing the masterminds of Jihad activities, the problem will go away on its own?
Or are you saying the citizens should abandon the country and run "out of the cave?"
If this approach was taken during WW2, we would of all been speaking German and Japanese by now.
However, I do agree that we are destined to fall like the Romans because of the effects from treaties such as NAFTA, coupled with the complacent underachievers riding the social rolls.
I never understood this, but maybe you can enlighten me on this one.

When the Marine barracks where bombed during the early 80's and we left Lebanon, why wasn't that a case of "cut and running"? Or, does "Cut & Run" only apply to Democrats?

Zwei und Zwei ist Feunf! Tchuss!
John C

AOL

#30 Sep 14, 2008
For Huh and Bob:

Did either of you two guys read my first post that started this thread? If not, here it is once again:

From Gallagher's Letter to the Editor:

"With the passage of the Draft Act and, later, the Lend Lease aid to England, Roosevelt and the Democratic Party saved Poland and Europe from the oppression of Germany and Adolf Hitler."

My response:

<< More accurately, those FDR actions transformed America from that of a nation wanting peace and avoidance of war in Europe. to that of an aggressive world power, responding to its once colonial ruler's pleas for help, in a war that they started with little thought to their lack of ability to win (a war against Germany).

Had England (and France) not been so stupid (and FDR such an anti-German war monger), Poland, part of Russia, and part of Austria and Czechoslovakia would now be part of Germany (and happy), Hitler would be long gone, there would have been no Holocaust, no destruction of Europe and Russia, and 50 million people would not have died. And their would be no Palestine problem and no "war on terror" or Afghanistan or Iraq. >>

We haven't changed as a nation since then - we are even worse if anything - and both parties lead the charge from one war to the next.

So stop the bickering about who is better or worse at war mongering. It's almost obscene!
Huh

Montgomery, AL

#31 Sep 14, 2008
John C wrote:
For Huh and Bob:
Did either of you two guys read my first post that started this thread? If not, here it is once again:
From Gallagher's Letter to the Editor:
"With the passage of the Draft Act and, later, the Lend Lease aid to England, Roosevelt and the Democratic Party saved Poland and Europe from the oppression of Germany and Adolf Hitler."
My response:
<< More accurately, those FDR actions transformed America from that of a nation wanting peace and avoidance of war in Europe. to that of an aggressive world power, responding to its once colonial ruler's pleas for help, in a war that they started with little thought to their lack of ability to win (a war against Germany).
Had England (and France) not been so stupid (and FDR such an anti-German war monger), Poland, part of Russia, and part of Austria and Czechoslovakia would now be part of Germany (and happy), Hitler would be long gone, there would have been no Holocaust, no destruction of Europe and Russia, and 50 million people would not have died. And their would be no Palestine problem and no "war on terror" or Afghanistan or Iraq. >>
We haven't changed as a nation since then - we are even worse if anything - and both parties lead the charge from one war to the next.
So stop the bickering about who is better or worse at war mongering. It's almost obscene!
You are missing my point. It's pretty simple.

People have revisionist views, it doesn't fit the "Inner Party's" idealogy, so they change history. On an earlier post it mentioned "Democrats & Isolationists". The average American isn't well versed in American history, so they wouldn't know that the Republican Party were advocates of isolationism. So, the poster is masking reality, by using "fancy words". The truth is, the Treaty of Versaille which he says if enforced would have prevented WWI, was the idea of a Democrat.

The most honest man who ran for President this year wanted to take his party back to it's fundamental roots. His name is Ron Paul, the isolationist, and a Republican.

So, where is Winston who rewrites History? He'll blame it on Julia when it's all over.

2+2=5, but not to us Proles!
John C

AOL

#32 Sep 15, 2008
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>
You are missing my point. It's pretty simple.
People have revisionist views, it doesn't fit the "Inner Party's" idealogy, so they change history. On an earlier post it mentioned "Democrats & Isolationists". The average American isn't well versed in American history, so they wouldn't know that the Republican Party were advocates of isolationism. So, the poster is masking reality, by using "fancy words". The truth is, the Treaty of Versaille which he says if enforced would have prevented WWI, was the idea of a Democrat.
The most honest man who ran for President this year wanted to take his party back to it's fundamental roots. His name is Ron Paul, the isolationist, and a Republican.
So, where is Winston who rewrites History? He'll blame it on Julia when it's all over.
2+2=5, but not to us Proles!
I'll stick by my conlusion, which is that we have been an aggressive warring nation since WW I and even before,- and especially since WW II, and it matters not what Party is in power. And it wont change until Americans learn up close what war is.
EX-Bpt Bob

Virginia Beach, VA

#33 Sep 15, 2008
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>
Whoah, is that from Wikipedia? You need to open a real history book! Don't you know only simpletons post on there?
Come on! Who were the Isolationists? That's right, REPUBLICANS. Wilson was all for the Treaty of Versailles. Heck, who cast the lone vote against WWII? That's right, a REPUBLICAN. Who was itching for the fight? FDR, a DEMOCRAT.
Please don't pass REVISIONIST history off as fact.

So, let's hear you defend Herbert Hoover. Oh, I see, the liberal historians have defamed his great legacy.
2+2=5 ehh?
My Friend,

Your credibility was in the dumper a few posts back with your links.
Its too late to save face by googling frantically and throwing out random tidbits.
Huh

Montgomery, AL

#34 Sep 15, 2008
EX-Bpt Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
My Friend,
Your credibility was in the dumper a few posts back with your links.
Its too late to save face by googling frantically and throwing out random tidbits.
Cut and running, just like Reagan in '84. Doubleplusgood! Did I just cross the Rubicon?

2+2=5!
Ex-BPT Bob

United States

#35 Sep 15, 2008
I just refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent, Wiki-Boi....
wtf

Worcester, MA

#36 Sep 15, 2008
John C wrote:
If you think your "instant message" addresses all of my comments, you are mistaken - but that's OK, there are no "requirements" to be thoughtful before posting on this forum
(don't you wish there was a 'd*ckhead' icon in the 'judge it!' link for John C's delusions?)
cold hard truth

Lexington, SC

#37 Sep 15, 2008
the USA USED NAZIS TO HELP CONTAIN THE SCUMBAG RUSSIANS,in hindsight f ck FDR for disliking GERMANS Hitler really did not want war with the USA he honored i believe it was called the pact of steel japan made germany in essence declare war on the USA AND HOW COME SO MANY JAPS NEVER ANSWERED FOR WAR CRIMES .
cold hard truth

Lexington, SC

#38 Sep 16, 2008
if the slovaks fought the germans in 1938 instead of laying down,the war never goes any farther,i have read books written by german generals to this effect and predominatly the germans used SKODA TANKS built in checkoslovakia to conquer france THESE are historical facts and nobody fought harder than the poles did their equiptment was antiquated unfortunatly

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News On This Day: McCollum Memo Delivered (Feb '15) Jul '16 Cynthia 3
News Like Lincoln and FDR, Obama faces nation in cri... (Nov '08) Oct '14 yon 52
News Veteran projectionist still threading film at m... (Mar '13) Mar '13 Films 1
News Memos show U.S. hushed up Soviet crime (Sep '12) Sep '12 Pesky army 6
News Hmm. The 2012 Election Reminds Me Of Something (May '12) Jun '12 Le Jimbo 71
News Paul Broun on FDR (Sep '11) Sep '11 Brotha of the Unb... 1
News The Constitution and compassion, too (May '11) May '11 JERRY DEMING 6
More from around the web