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#22 Aug 23, 2008
p.s. Laina Farhat-Holzman is a tool.
#23 Aug 23, 2008
Lil Buf Jr: "Dude, you need to be more skeptical about your own sources of information. Seriously. Your faith in the Big Conspiracy is blinding you to some inconvenient complexities."
What conspiracy are you talking about?
I'm not discussing 'conspiracy theories'. This has to have been the most open to reporters military action that the world has ever seen.
The world watched, and what they saw was a US client state in Central Asia, Georgia, attack a country (after ongoing confrontations and provocations by both sides) that Russia was in the process of granting independence to.
Georgia seems to be saying that Ossetia is Georgian territory and they HAVE NO RIGHT to independence. granted by Russia or not.
There's no conspiracy there...
Do YOU see a conspiracy there?
I prefer to use ANOTHER "C" word, "Collusion", between the US (Who just happened to have US trainers training Georgian troops there... Must be one of THOSE coincidences) and Georgia to grab a petro-strategically portion of Central Asia more closely affiliated with Iran than Russia OR Georgia.
No conspiracy, just a nasty little neo-imperial proxy war that will end up breaking what little is left of the US economy that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (and the Horn of Africa, with it's whole shiny new military command needing to be financed out of your tax dollars) haven't depleted beyond the zero.
Have you seen the Federal Reserve's reserves?
The US has none.
#24 Aug 23, 2008
Yes it's all very nice for reporters in Georgia now
but please try and address the issue of ethnic cleansing.
In Abhkazia in the '90s: 10,000 to 30,000 ethnic Georgians killed, roughly 230,000 to 250,000 civilian expelled from their homes.
Since your "history" begins on 8-8-08 this bit of the story goes unaccounted for. Approximately how many people are in Abkhazia today? Did the ethnic cleansing of the '90s have any impact on the demographics of the area? See the table of Demographics over time here:
Now that is actually interesting: in 1989, 45.7% are ethnic Georgian, 17.8% are ethnic Abkhaz. In 2003, 21.3% and 43.8% respectively.
I am NOT saying this is the "whole story" by any stretch. But the "Russia to the rescue" story you are spinning is seriously incomplete.
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