did elvis rape priscilla
Lee

Burbank, CA

#308 Dec 13, 2012
MsDalton wrote:
Lee - I'm a firm beleiver that any girl Elvis was with wanted to be there and evidently no matter what age, their parents wanted the same.
Elvis supposedly felt that heavy kissing and petting and touching and moving around together with clothes on (gettting off) was not considered full intercourse - and it wasn't.
I'm on his side - believe me, he seems to have been a very complicated person with mood disorders occassinaly - he had a lot of burdens to deal with, he was only human.
I would have been proud to just have been his friend and would not have wanted a dime from him either. I think he was a genius and had compassion for people in life who were having hard financial times and he wanted to help as he had "been there". Somehow it got to where the
people around him just took his gifts for granted. He thought he was paying them for being with him too and thats what it was. He hated being alone especially when he wanted to sleep.
Also Pricilla herself said that Elvis lied to her about his affair with his co-star Ann Margaret saying it was just for publicity. Also Anita Wood was told by him that Priscilla was just a fan. He had been with her five years - maybe not having full intercourse but she sure thought they were lovers I'm sure - she just left and let Priscilla have him.
So yes he cheated but in his mind, it was ok. Being a movistar he could be seen in public with many women on his arm - and also could have slept with them if he wanted and some said he did (while he was married also) I do agree a lot of them was just an ornament on his arm though....
First of all, his "affair" with Ann Margret has never been proven. She has never said that they had any kind of sex at all. And, I bet that if and when she decides to talk about this, she will say NO, as did most of his co-stars. I do think he had a huge crush on her.

In any case, the thing with Ann Margret DID start out as a publicity thing to promote the movie. But it became real. So when he said "just for publicity" to Priscilla, he was probably telling the truth.

As far as him cheating on Priscilla, when he was single, he was very open to the world that he was not exclusive to anyone, so I do not see how he could have been telling Priscilla that he wasn't. What she means is that she WANTED him to be exclusive, and he was not. That is not cheating. As far as it being for publicity, Elvis loved Priscilla. The others probably WERE for publicity, but that does not mean he did not enjoy them.

Elvis made it very clear to the public when he brought Priscilla over here that it was SHE that he loved. "The most beautiful little creature I have ever laid my eyes on, and so delicate, she looks as if you touched her, she would break".

However he made it clear that he was dating others. After all, she was only 17,(not 14) when he brought her over here. It would look unseemly for him to be dating only her. By the way, she was almost 18.

As for his so called "affairs" while they were married, no one has ever proven that they even happened. Women will say anything to get publicity. Attaching themselves to Elvis is a great way to do it. If he was really so busy having affairs, why don't any of them say they slept with him when he was single??? The don't, because they don't get the sensationalism that the get if they say he was married.

Both Priscilla and Linda have said that they could hardly drag the guy into bed. Why, then, would he be sleeping with all these other women while he was married to Priscilla???

Elvis LOVED Priscilla. I will never believe it.

She, on the other hand, has told us that she started having affairs, even before Elvis went on tour. She was the bad one, not Elvis.

And don't tell me that the MM says they KNOW he slept with this or that one, unless they can prove they were UNDER THE BED.
King Elvis

Merrylands, Australia

#309 Dec 13, 2012
Wow, Fatty, you'll excuse Elvis anything.

So, Ann-Margret and Elvis spent nights together in their bedrooms, and no sex?

Yeah, right.

Christ, you're dumb.
MsDalton

Charleston, WV

#310 Dec 19, 2012
Lee

In interviews with Ann Margaret, she makes it clear they loved each other. Also that they shared many nights together in bed?? She stated he stopped calling her after she made a misslip to the medica that they were having an affair and to be married - but later on "supposedly" they did hook up as friends and sayed that way til he died. At Elvis's funeral, there are stories of how she held onto Vernon and comforted him - NONE ABOUT LINDA, GINGER OR PRISCILLA doing that. To me that shows Vernon knew Elvis really cared for her. Also when Priscailla left hin for Mike - ANN says he came to her and told her he "still felt the same as he did befoe and wanted her back". And remember Kathy Westmoreland got with him in 1970 and in an interview she said it was sexual but that Elvis had told her he and priscilla agreed to an "open" marriage??

I dunno - just what she said. Elvis probably did get very bored with women as he did his songs - and career (as he wanted to travel overseas and do serious movies)A woman would have had to be realling exciting and interesting to have held his interest for long. Therefore the reasons women have stated he had sex briefly with them, then didn't seem to want to be with them anymore?? Makes sense.

I'm sure he did get impotent with all the meds and pain - so Ginger could have only been with him as he wanted an ornament on his arm - can't beleive she enjoyed JUST THAT as she was a young healthy woman, so she took all his gifts that he gave her to get her to stay..
Lee

Carpinteria, CA

#311 Dec 19, 2012
King Elvis wrote:
Wow, Fatty, you'll excuse Elvis anything.
So, Ann-Margret and Elvis spent nights together in their bedrooms, and no sex?
Yeah, right.
Christ, you're dumb.
I don't remember Ann saying that they spent nights in bed. As far as being "in the bedroom" you know that many people have said they spent nights in the bedroom (which was in fact, a mini-apartment) without having sex. Yes, I think they spent time together without having sex.

It really doesn't matter, though. He was single then.
Lee

Carpinteria, CA

#312 Dec 19, 2012
MsDalton wrote:
Lee
In interviews with Ann Margaret, she makes it clear they loved each other. Also that they shared many nights together in bed?? She stated he stopped calling her after she made a misslip to the medica that they were having an affair and to be married - but later on "supposedly" they did hook up as friends and sayed that way til he died. At Elvis's funeral, there are stories of how she held onto Vernon and comforted him - NONE ABOUT LINDA, GINGER OR PRISCILLA doing that. To me that shows Vernon knew Elvis really cared for her. Also when Priscailla left hin for Mike - ANN says he came to her and told her he "still felt the same as he did befoe and wanted her back". And remember Kathy Westmoreland got with him in 1970 and in an interview she said it was sexual but that Elvis had told her he and priscilla agreed to an "open" marriage??
I dunno - just what she said. Elvis probably did get very bored with women as he did his songs - and career (as he wanted to travel overseas and do serious movies)A woman would have had to be realling exciting and interesting to have held his interest for long. Therefore the reasons women have stated he had sex briefly with them, then didn't seem to want to be with them anymore?? Makes sense.
I'm sure he did get impotent with all the meds and pain - so Ginger could have only been with him as he wanted an ornament on his arm - can't beleive she enjoyed JUST THAT as she was a young healthy woman, so she took all his gifts that he gave her to get her to stay..
Kathy said they met in 70 but did not have sex for a LONG time, and then only once. That is what she said in the book, or that is the impression I got.

The fact that they said he had sex "briefly" with them does not mean it happened while he was married. As for not wanting to be with them any more, I have never read where one of his women said that.

I remember when Ann's statement come out in the press. She did not say that they were "having an affair". She said that they were in love, or words to that effect, and that they would probably marry soon. She did not say that Elvis had asked her. It was probably a misstatement by the press. Ann later said that she said no such thing. Anyway, yes, apparently he did stop seeing her immediately after that. And I don't remember the time frame on that, but it seems that it was shortly after that that he married Priscilla. And just days later, Ann married Roger Smith. I always thought she married Roger right then to save her pride after it looked like Elvis dumped her. That does not mean that sbe didn't love Roger, she obviously does.

If Elvis came back to her right after Priscilla dumped him, it never came out at the time. All I read at the time was that when Mike and Priscilla broke up, Elvis went to Bis and Beu with flowers and candy, and tried to get her to come back, but she would not.

Sweet, forgiving soul, to forgive that bitch after what she did.

As far as Ann and Elvis remaining friends until he died, I don't think that meant much. Because after he died, she said that she thought if she could have gone to Elvis before he died, that she could have helped him. If they were friends other than just saying hello, why could she not go to him???
King Elvis

Merrylands, Australia

#313 Dec 19, 2012
Lee wrote:
<quoted text>I don't remember Ann saying that they spent nights in bed. As far as being "in the bedroom" you know that many people have said they spent nights in the bedroom (which was in fact, a mini-apartment) without having sex.
If you think AM and Elvis weren't having sex, you are an idiot.
Lee

Carpinteria, CA

#314 Dec 19, 2012
King Elvis wrote:
<quoted text>
If you think AM and Elvis weren't having sex, you are an idiot.
All emotion, no logic. That's your usual way. There is no reason to believe they were. Or weren't for that matter. I was thinking more of Ann Margret than Elvis. I just don't think she would give her husband "sloppy seconds". I think she would wait.
Karen HB

Auckland, New Zealand

#316 Dec 20, 2012
Elvis was a pig wrote:
Mike stone was real black belt ..elvis bought his..he couldnt fight his way out of a paper bag he fondled priscilla when she was 14 ..sick puppy what a joke this bloated ,,drug addicted ego maniac was
Well lucky Pris getting 'fondled' good grief! they were both at it they were rabbits getting at each other and what the hell - so would have a thousand other 14 year olds - they did it then and they do it today - it is no big deal!
Lee

Burbank, CA

#317 Jan 18, 2013
Lee wrote:
<quoted text>All emotion, no logic. That's your usual way. There is no reason to believe they were. Or weren't for that matter. I was thinking more of Ann Margret than Elvis. I just don't think she would give her husband "sloppy seconds". I think she would wait.
Hey, what happened to the rest of this threzd? There were more posts on here than this.
Jewels

Saint Ignatius, MT

#318 Apr 4, 2013
No he didn't rape her according to Priscilla. She said it was an over statement. He wasn't as gentle as he could have been. And I don't and wouldn't call him a pedofiler. He liked teenage girls to hang out with and play around but as far as sexually no. All the girls that he had any sexual contact were of age. I meen a kiss to a under age girl would be it. Cuz if he did have affairs or anything with an underage girl. I'm sure that would have gotten out to the public. Anyway if u want to talk more bout Elvis email me @ [email protected] or friend me on fcb @ Lovegirl819 or Julie Rose.:)
Lee

Valencia, CA

#319 Apr 4, 2013
Jewels wrote:
No he didn't rape her according to Priscilla. She said it was an over statement. He wasn't as gentle as he could have been. And I don't and wouldn't call him a pedofiler. He liked teenage girls to hang out with and play around but as far as sexually no. All the girls that he had any sexual contact were of age. I meen a kiss to a under age girl would be it. Cuz if he did have affairs or anything with an underage girl. I'm sure that would have gotten out to the public. Anyway if u want to talk more bout Elvis email me @ [email protected] or friend me on fcb @ Lovegirl819 or Julie Rose.:)
You are right Jewel. Nice post.
luvelvis

Charleston, WV

#320 Apr 4, 2013
Jewel - The whole world saw the throngs of underage girls at Elvis's gate - I'm sure a few figured out some got in? And so if NO FULL SEX - hmm - laying around on bed would most likely bring on some heavy petting sessions - any girl then and now would do it.

Since: Mar 13

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#321 Apr 4, 2013
It has been a lot of years since I read Cilla's book. I read it in one day and then again a few weeks later. I never thought he actually raped her. I'm sure that in preparing for this book she remembered a lot of painful things, including some of the things she did to E. As far as the young girls are concerned, I've said before, I don't know if he had full on sex with them. Either way it was dangerous ground for him to tread on. I "believe" E was emotionally "younger" than his actual age, Peter Pan syndrome in some ways. He preferred the company of young girls. Partly due to his mother's influence and advice. The parents of the girls, in some cases, admitted they knew and allowed them to go to his home. They trusted him. He seemed to have that kind of affect on people that they felt safe with him or felt safe allowing their daughters to be with him in a private situation. Many people, including his own daughter, have stated that he had a charisma that was beyond explanation. Even now, Lisa says that going to Graceland and especially into his room, she can feel him. Whatever the reason, whatever he may or may not have done, I still think he was the greatest entertainer ever.
Lee

Valencia, CA

#322 Apr 4, 2013
luvelvis wrote:
Jewel - The whole world saw the throngs of underage girls at Elvis's gate - I'm sure a few figured out some got in? And so if NO FULL SEX - hmm - laying around on bed would most likely bring on some heavy petting sessions - any girl then and now would do it.
No, laying around on the bed would not bring an ETHICAL man to molest them by having heavy petting with them. And Elvis was an ethical man.

Girls who DID get in came back and said that Elvis was super sweet to them, but nothing went on.
Lee

Valencia, CA

#323 Apr 4, 2013
2kingsdaughter wrote:
It has been a lot of years since I read Cilla's book. I read it in one day and then again a few weeks later. I never thought he actually raped her. I'm sure that in preparing for this book she remembered a lot of painful things, including some of the things she did to E. As far as the young girls are concerned, I've said before, I don't know if he had full on sex with them. Either way it was dangerous ground for him to tread on. I "believe" E was emotionally "younger" than his actual age, Peter Pan syndrome in some ways. He preferred the company of young girls. Partly due to his mother's influence and advice. The parents of the girls, in some cases, admitted they knew and allowed them to go to his home. They trusted him. He seemed to have that kind of affect on people that they felt safe with him or felt safe allowing their daughters to be with him in a private situation. Many people, including his own daughter, have stated that he had a charisma that was beyond explanation. Even now, Lisa says that going to Graceland and especially into his room, she can feel him. Whatever the reason, whatever he may or may not have done, I still think he was the greatest entertainer ever.
Why do you always have to ad something like that??? "I don't know if he had full on sex with them". Why would you even SUGGEST such a thing????

You operate the same way the MM do, by saying a lot of flowery, pretty things, then stick something very negative and accusatory in the middle of it. Trying to get people to consider that just maybe, Elvis molested underage girls.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE that Elvis did heavy petting (molesting)with, OR had full on sex with any under age girls when he was of age!!!

Why would someone who claims to be an Elvis fan keep pushing such filthy accusations against him????

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#324 Apr 4, 2013
Lee I can't hit reply so...I suggest it for tje same reason you say it isn't always "traumatizing ". Suck on that!
Lee

Valencia, CA

#325 Apr 5, 2013
2kingsdaughter wrote:
Lee I can't hit reply so...I suggest it for tje same reason you say it isn't always "traumatizing ". Suck on that!
You say it for the same reason the others say it. Because your like to put forth an image of Elvis that is ethically speaking, very low.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#326 Apr 5, 2013
Lee wrote:
<quoted text>You say it for the same reason the others say it. Because your like to put forth an image of Elvis that is ethically speaking, very low.
You are so concerned about the image of a man you never knew that you've completely ruined your own. "Ethically" speaking? Why are you so concerned with Elvis's moral conduct, or rather with the perceptions of people's ideas of his conduct? I don't think his image if unethical, or that my idea of his image is low. I rather admire him, his music, the things he accomplished, his impact on society. As I've said before, he was the greatest entertainer, beautiful, generous to a fault. He wasn't a god. He made bad decisions, wrong choices at times.
Lee

Valencia, CA

#327 Apr 5, 2013
2kingsdaughter wrote:
<quoted text>You are so concerned about the image of a man you never knew that you've completely ruined your own. "Ethically" speaking? Why are you so concerned with Elvis's moral conduct, or rather with the perceptions of people's ideas of his conduct? I don't think his image if unethical, or that my idea of his image is low. I rather admire him, his music, the things he accomplished, his impact on society. As I've said before, he was the greatest entertainer, beautiful, generous to a fault. He wasn't a god. He made bad decisions, wrong choices at times.
But you think he might have had "full blown sex" with underage girls" . I think that is pretty low, and especially that you would say that about him.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#328 Apr 5, 2013
Lee wrote:
<quoted text>But you think he might have had "full blown sex" with underage girls" . I think that is pretty low, and especially that you would say that about him.
I don't think he had sex with underage girls. I just don't know that he didn't. Nor do I care. It does irk me that people like Alana Nash made up stories. But I don't lose sleep over it.

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