just for lee

Since: Mar 13

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#1 Mar 12, 2013
Please let Lee answer this if she will. Thanks. Before I ask my questions, let me begin by telling you my story. I was probably about 5 when I realized who Elvis was. I have been a fan ever since. I was just 14 when he died and it was shocking, but it didn't ruin my life. It certainly changed music, perhaps even the course of history. It devastated many people, but we've moved on to appreciate his legacy. Try to leave Priscilla, Lisa and everyone else out of your response.

1. When did you first become a fan?
2. Do you admire him or do you feel you are in love with him?
3. Did you ever get to meet him or see him in person?
4. Have you ever toured Graceland?

Before you answer, I have NOT had a chance to read your past responses, at least not all of them. I respect your dedication to his memory and for standing up for him. I too believe that many have taken advantage of him, both in life and in death. But that is not the purpose of these questions/answers. I merely wish to better understand where your devotion comes from. How did you get to where you are as a fan, minus your feelings toward his ex-wife. I am quite curious by nature and have a fascination with how people think. If you do not wish to answer me, I understand. Have a good day.
Lee

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Mar 12, 2013
I have been a fan since 1956.

I "love" Elvis, but I am not "in love" with him. I love him the way a fan loves a star, not the way you love someone that you know personally.

Yes, I saw him in person once, in Denver. He looked like a God. You did not understand that comment before, I just meant he looked more than perfect.

I have never been to Graceland. In the past I did not go because I did not want Priscilla to get my money. I may go next year though, because last year, I just felt the urge to be around other Elvis fans.

One fan told me that(actually, it was Elvis Jr) that Priscilla had made Graceland "all about her". That her pictures were everywhere. Oh, sorry, I was not supposed to mention her here. That wouldn't keep me from going now, though.

Like I told you in the other post, my "devotion" (anger, really) comes from remembering the history of Elvis always saying he would never marry a woman who wanted to go into show business, seeing her wait all those years to get him married, then SURPRISE, Priscilla really DID want to go into show business after all. Then at the magic five year mark when you get the best settlement, she leaves, takes his money gets herself an agent and starts trying to get into show business.

If he had not at that time started to deteriorate and then die, I guess I would not be so angry.

For her fame and fortune, Elvis paid with his life.

Since: Mar 13

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#3 Mar 12, 2013
Lee wrote:
I have been a fan since 1956.
I "love" Elvis, but I am not "in love" with him. I love him the way a fan loves a star, not the way you love someone that you know personally.
Yes, I saw him in person once, in Denver. He looked like a God. You did not understand that comment before, I just meant he looked more than perfect.
I have never been to Graceland. In the past I did not go because I did not want Priscilla to get my money. I may go next year though, because last year, I just felt the urge to be around other Elvis fans.
One fan told me that(actually, it was Elvis Jr) that Priscilla had made Graceland "all about her". That her pictures were everywhere. Oh, sorry, I was not supposed to mention her here. That wouldn't keep me from going now, though.
Like I told you in the other post, my "devotion" (anger, really) comes from remembering the history of Elvis always saying he would never marry a woman who wanted to go into show business, seeing her wait all those years to get him married, then SURPRISE, Priscilla really DID want to go into show business after all. Then at the magic five year mark when you get the best settlement, she leaves, takes his money gets herself an agent and starts trying to get into show business.
If he had not at that time started to deteriorate and then die, I guess I would not be so angry.
For her fame and fortune, Elvis paid with his life.
Awesome answer, other than the dreaded Priscilla stuff. Thank you, Lee. You should go. There are quite a few things that pertain to Cilla on display, but I just chalked it up to the fact that she was his only wife, they had a daughter together and yes, she has taken full advantage of the Presley name. I may not agree with all of her tactics, but I don't hate her. I don't even know her. The house is interesting, to say the least. The grounds are lovely and the people of Memphis are gracious. I am from the South so it was all very natural and comfortable to me. I've been ill for some time now, but hope to be able to return for another visit. I thought that I'd go once and then feel satisfied that I'd been. Not so! It's like tattoos, addictive. Don't overthink it Lee. Just go and enjoy the whole thing. The other fans are very interesting to see also. I saw everything from the very young to the very old, impersonators to clowns, rich and poor.
Jim

Cherry Hill, NJ

#4 Mar 23, 2013
Lee wrote:
Like I told you in the other post, my "devotion" (anger, really) comes from remembering the history of Elvis always saying he would never marry a woman who wanted to go into show business, seeing her wait all those years to get him married, then SURPRISE, Priscilla really DID want to go into show business after all. Then at the magic five year mark when you get the best settlement, she leaves, takes his money gets herself an agent and starts trying to get into show business.
If he had not at that time started to deteriorate and then die, I guess I would not be so angry.
For her fame and fortune, Elvis paid with his life.
But, to my knowledge, nothing you claim here has been mentioned by anyone, even in the numerous gossip books, as being one of the reasons for, much less the main reason for the divorce.

Elvis had little money because:

1) The contract Elvis signed with Col. Parker gave Parker 50% of all Elvis's earnings, which is unconscionable;

2) Parker undersold Elvis, e.g., the price of concert tickets were too low;

3) Elvis spent or gave quite a bit of his money away via gifts;

4) After the 1960s, Elvis was not selling the same amount of records nor was he making movies, so his income decreased.

As far as Priscilla wanting a career in show business:

1) There is no evidence the divorce had anything to do with Priscilla wanting a show business career, much less being the primary reason;

2) Even if Priscilla wanting a show business career was a factor leading up to the divorce, Elvis still loved Priscilla and after the divorce remained close to her. In other words, Elvis put aside whatever differences there were because he felt is was most important to maintain peace for the sake of Lisa Marie, as well as because he still loved Priscilla and wanted her to remain in his life--even if from a distance.

3) Whatever the ultimate reasons for the divorce, both Elvis and Priscilla put aside their differences and remained very close. To this end, it is clear that Priscilla loved Elvis and Elvis loved Priscilla. Get over it!

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#5 Mar 23, 2013
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
But, to my knowledge, nothing you claim here has been mentioned by anyone, even in the numerous gossip books, as being one of the reasons for, much less the main reason for the divorce.
Elvis had little money because:
1) The contract Elvis signed with Col. Parker gave Parker 50% of all Elvis's earnings, which is unconscionable;
2) Parker undersold Elvis, e.g., the price of concert tickets were too low;
3) Elvis spent or gave quite a bit of his money away via gifts;
4) After the 1960s, Elvis was not selling the same amount of records nor was he making movies, so his income decreased.
As far as Priscilla wanting a career in show business:
1) There is no evidence the divorce had anything to do with Priscilla wanting a show business career, much less being the primary reason;
2) Even if Priscilla wanting a show business career was a factor leading up to the divorce, Elvis still loved Priscilla and after the divorce remained close to her. In other words, Elvis put aside whatever differences there were because he felt is was most important to maintain peace for the sake of Lisa Marie, as well as because he still loved Priscilla and wanted her to remain in his life--even if from a distance.
3) Whatever the ultimate reasons for the divorce, both Elvis and Priscilla put aside their differences and remained very close. To this end, it is clear that Priscilla loved Elvis and Elvis loved Priscilla. Get over it!
Had he realized and acknowledged how lonely it was for Priscilla whenever he was away, things might have been better. Entertainers routinely bring their families on the road these days. Strange that he later allowed his girlfriends to go along, but not his wife and child.
Lee

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Mar 23, 2013
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
But, to my knowledge, nothing you claim here has been mentioned by anyone, even in the numerous gossip books, as being one of the reasons for, much less the main reason for the divorce.
Elvis had little money because:
1) The contract Elvis signed with Col. Parker gave Parker 50% of all Elvis's earnings, which is unconscionable;
2) Parker undersold Elvis, e.g., the price of concert tickets were too low;
3) Elvis spent or gave quite a bit of his money away via gifts;
4) After the 1960s, Elvis was not selling the same amount of records nor was he making movies, so his income decreased.
As far as Priscilla wanting a career in show business:
1) There is no evidence the divorce had anything to do with Priscilla wanting a show business career, much less being the primary reason;
2) Even if Priscilla wanting a show business career was a factor leading up to the divorce, Elvis still loved Priscilla and after the divorce remained close to her. In other words, Elvis put aside whatever differences there were because he felt is was most important to maintain peace for the sake of Lisa Marie, as well as because he still loved Priscilla and wanted her to remain in his life--even if from a distance.
3) Whatever the ultimate reasons for the divorce, both Elvis and Priscilla put aside their differences and remained very close. To this end, it is clear that Priscilla loved Elvis and Elvis loved Priscilla. Get over it!
It is evident that Elvis loved Priscilla. It is not evident that Priscilla loved Elvis.

She could not have treated him that way if she did. Yes, she remained on civil terms with him, they had a daughter together.

No, none of the books said that Priscilla married Elvis to get his name and money and then get into show business. Do you think she is going to TELL anyone that????

Larry Geller did say that Elvis himself told him that HE, Elvis, thought the same.

The evidence is in her actions, what she did, and when she did it.

As far as the money, Elvis money went for many thing, but Priscilla was the main thing. He had to sell the rights to his music to pay her. So after that, he was living on just what he was making at the moment.
Lee

Los Angeles, CA

#7 Mar 23, 2013
2kingsdaughter wrote:
<quoted text>Had he realized and acknowledged how lonely it was for Priscilla whenever he was away, things might have been better. Entertainers routinely bring their families on the road these days. Strange that he later allowed his girlfriends to go along, but not his wife and child.
Priscilla said they both agreed that she should not go along, because the didn't want to drag Lisa around. That she should stay home and take care of Lisa.

But she herself admitted that she was so busy modeling, taking dancing lessons, and karate lessons and tournaments that Lisa preferred the nanny to Priscilla. So she did not "stay home and take care of the baby".
Lee

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Mar 23, 2013
2kingsdaughter wrote:
<quoted text>Had he realized and acknowledged how lonely it was for Priscilla whenever he was away, things might have been better. Entertainers routinely bring their families on the road these days. Strange that he later allowed his girlfriends to go along, but not his wife and child.
How could she be lonely? She had the staff at Graceland, the animals, a car a bottomless credit card. She had all the time and money to do anything she wanted.

The only thing she was lonely for was OTHER MEN.

Since: Jul 08

KELOWNA

#9 Mar 23, 2013
Lee wrote:
<quoted text>How could she be lonely? She had the staff at Graceland, the animals, a car a bottomless credit card. She had all the time and money to do anything she wanted.
This says more about what your priorities are than Priscillas.
Lee

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Mar 24, 2013
dolbyscat wrote:
<quoted text>This says more about what your priorities are than Priscillas.
She could have done anythng she wanted to. What she did with the money Elvis gave her was to go whoring with other men.

She could have done constructive things with that time and money.

Since: Mar 13

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#11 Mar 24, 2013
She could have taken herself & Lisa with him.
Lee

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Mar 24, 2013
2kingsdaughter wrote:
She could have taken herself & Lisa with him.
She and Elvis both agreed that they should not do that. But you're right. They should have done that.

Since: Mar 13

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#13 Mar 27, 2013
Lee wrote:
<quoted text>How could she be lonely? She had the staff at Graceland, the animals, a car a bottomless credit card. She had all the time and money to do anything she wanted.
The only thing she was lonely for was OTHER MEN.
Maybe you didn't get the memo...animals, cars, money, non of these "things" can fill a void that only your spouse can. Human beings, at least those who are normal, will do odd things when the person they love is no longer emotionally available to them. It doesn't make it right. But one can be driven to do things they otherwise might not. Who knows, maybe Cilla's parents convinced her she was traumatized and therefore caused her to do these things. Kinda like those silly abused kids who are not bothered by the abuse until someone tells them they should be. Right, Lee???
Lee

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Mar 27, 2013
2kingsdaughter wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe you didn't get the memo...animals, cars, money, non of these "things" can fill a void that only your spouse can. Human beings, at least those who are normal, will do odd things when the person they love is no longer emotionally available to them. It doesn't make it right. But one can be driven to do things they otherwise might not. Who knows, maybe Cilla's parents convinced her she was traumatized and therefore caused her to do these things. Kinda like those silly abused kids who are not bothered by the abuse until someone tells them they should be. Right, Lee???
Kingsdsughter, can we at least keep the pedo posts on the ONE thread???
Michigan

Belleville, MI

#15 Mar 27, 2013
Lee wrote:
<quoted text>Kingsdsughter, can we at least keep the pedo posts on the ONE thread???
Why dont' you go drive off the nearest cliff?

Since: Mar 13

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#16 Mar 27, 2013
Lee wrote:
<quoted text>Kingsdsughter, can we at least keep the pedo posts on the ONE thread???
Lee, can you for once be honest?

Since: Mar 13

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#17 Mar 27, 2013
Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Why dont' you go drive off the nearest cliff?
I say we show her the meaning of "traumatize". Lee doth protest too much...
luvelvis

Charleston, WV

#18 Mar 28, 2013
well Elvis took girlfriends AND HIS DAUGHTER to concerts and also after the divorce Priscilla came with their daughter.

Also, he would have probably chosen Ann Margaret if he wanted a wife in show business????
Lee

Los Angeles, CA

#19 Mar 28, 2013
luvelvis wrote:
well Elvis took girlfriends AND HIS DAUGHTER to concerts and also after the divorce Priscilla came with their daughter.
Also, he would have probably chosen Ann Margaret if he wanted a wife in show business????
What post are you answering? You did not hit the reply button.
luvelvis

Charleston, WV

#20 Mar 30, 2013
Lee wrote:
<quoted text>What post are you answering? You did not hit the reply button.
I don't HAVE to hit reply - my statement is for ALL. Is that ok with you Lee?

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