Michael Jackson is more talented than...
sven

Smålandsstenar, Sweden

#21 Jul 22, 2009
The writing was done by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller. So Willie Mae "Big Mama" Thornton was only first to record it, she didn't write it or own it. Get the fact straight! Lieber and Stoller owned the lyrics.

Here are a few others who recorded Houndog.

1953 Country versions

Peacock released Thornton's version in March 1953. Five versions of the song were recorded on several different labels by "country" groups the very next month (April 1953):

* Billy Starr

* Tommy Duncan

* Eddie Hazelwood

* Jack Turner

* Cleve Jackson
sven

Smålandsstenar, Sweden

#22 Jul 22, 2009
As for " Heartbreak Hotel " was written by Hoyt Axton's mother Mae Boren Axton for Elvis.

So you can stop lying!!!
sven

Smålandsstenar, Sweden

#23 Jul 22, 2009
hoyt axton

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http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Sunshine1982

AOL

#24 Jul 22, 2009
I have no idea who KB is. Hey duh your'e name suits you! Frank Sinatra is another overrated artist.Extremely old fashioned and won't be remembered in 100 years. Michael Jackson had a televised public funeral which was global. Only presidents, popes, the civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. and royalty have had global funerals. Only Princess Diana's funeral was watched by more poeple worldwide. Her funeral was held on a saturday. Michael's a tuesday. Do you think it's funny to make fun of a person's intelligence? Bitch I have a bachelor's degree in chemistry and my interests are poetry, classical msuic, architecture, history, science, literature and art. You are messing with the wrong one here I highly doubt you have my intellectual abilities. Most Elvis fans are rednecks from the south you never graduated from high school. Believe it or not I like Elvis but he is overrated. Can you name every work picasso, matisse, chagall, and vegas did? just to name some of my faves. I hate dumb people like you duh!!!!!!!
mike

Fishers, NY

#25 Jul 23, 2009
what difference does it make if you write your songs,i f you can,t sing then what good is it.Elvis may have not written his own songs ,but he was a good singer.i won,t knock michael jackson ,some of his music was alright,the crotch grabbing thing was little bit weird though.
Observer

Surry Hills, Australia

#26 Jul 23, 2009
Sunshine1982 wrote:
Frank Sinatra is another overrated artist.Extremely old fashioned and won't be remembered in 100 years.
This one statement proves you know sweet **** all about music.

No wonder you're an MJ fan.

Goose.
DUH

San Francisco, CA

#27 Jul 23, 2009
Sunshine1982 wrote:
I have no idea who KB is. Hey duh your'e name suits you! Frank Sinatra is another overrated artist.Extremely old fashioned and won't be remembered in 100 years. Michael Jackson had a televised public funeral which was global. Only presidents, popes, the civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. and royalty have had global funerals. Only Princess Diana's funeral was watched by more poeple worldwide. Her funeral was held on a saturday. Michael's a tuesday. Do you think it's funny to make fun of a person's intelligence? Bitch I have a bachelor's degree in chemistry and my interests are poetry, classical msuic, architecture, history, science, literature and art. You are messing with the wrong one here I highly doubt you have my intellectual abilities. Most Elvis fans are rednecks from the south you never graduated from high school. Believe it or not I like Elvis but he is overrated. Can you name every work picasso, matisse, chagall, and vegas did? just to name some of my faves. I hate dumb people like you duh!!!!!!!
So I am a redneck from the south? Just because I like Elvis? Well I wonder who needs to go back and learn social skills. Sure you sound highly intellectual I guess that's why you had throw in a threat in you respond.
Yes, of course you have bachelor's degree in chemistry, I guess that make you a superior person. The only problem with you is that you believe you are better than the rest of us, hence the reason you call all Elvis fans for rednecks. You can call me whatever, if that makes you feel superior.
So you don't amaze me with your skills or your so called highly intellectual skill. Because you came on here with your all and mighty attitude doing you best to rip Elvis apart, with your pot shots. Highly overated? That is MJ he is overated! If Elvis is nothing why do you need write here? No logic at all!

No I don't believe anyone who needs to come on here and bragg about what work they have or how highly educated they are. Mostly that is a sign of low class and lowself esteem, and the fact that you probably flip burgers at McDonalds? Take that up with your shrink next time!!
Observer

Surry Hills, Australia

#28 Jul 23, 2009
DUH wrote:
Sure you sound highly intellectual
No, read his posts again.

Intellectuals usually know how to use proper punctuation, and don't have sentences that run together!

And who gives a rat's arse if he has a degree in bloody chemistry anyway?!
nina

Ottawa, Canada

#29 Jul 23, 2009
Sunshine1982 wrote:
.... Frank Sinatra is another overrated artist.Extremely old fashioned ..... I hate dumb people like you duh!!!!!!!
you are another - if not the same - teenager who has no cultural literacy
Jim Burrows

Managua, Nicaragua

#31 Jul 23, 2009
Here are some inacuracies (Part 1)

The song Elvis was supposed to have "ripped off" was not written by an African American (Big Mama Thornton, sang it, in 1953). The writers were white (Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller), but that wouldn't have given Elvis a sleepless night, since he had no distinction between black and white music. In fact, he recorded about 24 real R&B masterpieces, in his first two years alone, each totally different than the original. Presley did not temper his voice to fit the blues, and sang them as if he was black. That's Eric Clapton. Presley used any ofnb his 19 voices.

"Heartbreak Hotel" was not sang by anyone before Elvis, black or white. It was given to him in fact, by the writer, Mae Axton, when they net at a DJ's convention, in November of 1955. She wrote it, played it for him, he promised her it was going to be the first song he would record in January of 1956, at RCA, which he did, and the rest is history.

Elvis was not "groundbreaking". False, and indicative of a total lack of knowledge of how rock music made the entire industry take off, and of the development of the entire music industry, not just records, but changes in social behaviour, mores, habits, codes, etc.

Here's what Presley achieved, in short, what his incredible popularity meant for the industry.

In spite of getting more criticism from parents than anyone in the history of music, as well as the wrath of the Catholic church, this is what happened.

Sales of records, increase of 400 percent with respect to the year before.

Sales of television ads, increased by about 100 percent, on account of his drawing 320 million cumulative TV viewers in his 13 appearances, from late January of 1956, to the first week of January of 1957.

Sales of guitars, radios, televisions, and personal, as well as regular record playing units, about 200 percent increases, on the average.

Not just one, but two record labels were created because of the phenomenal increases in the sale of those items, and because of Presley's role in making it all happen.

And, which labels are those, some of you may wonder... Well, how about TAMPLA and Motown, in Detroit, MI, on the one hand, and SONY, on the other side of the world, in Japan, to be precise.

Once Japanese businessmen saw what Presley's revolution was doing to the music industry, they wanted a part of it. Milions upon millions of yens went into research and development and, little by little, they took over, starting in 1957.

Look where they are now. Incredibly, they have both Jackson and Presley, on their rosters.

As to TAMLA and Motown, Barry Gordy Jr. takes care of that question in his own bio, creditingg Presley's success at SUN records, and what he was able to deliver, creatively, both at SUN, and later at RCA, what made him found TAMLA, in 1957.

It was renamed Motown, shortly after.
Jim Burrows

Managua, Nicaragua

#32 Jul 23, 2009
Here are some inacuracies (Part 2)

So Presley was not groundbreaking> False.
Dress codes, morals, parietal hours, concert going, movie going, all changed after Presley's advent.

Young people had had already a few idols they could relate. First, it was Sinatra but the later to be branded Chairman of the Board, like Brando, was quite elusive... Where could they actually see them? On an ocassional concert, as far as Sinatra, on the radio, sure, and in a movie theatre, and on television, perhaps, every once in a while. Then came James Dean. Well, you could see him on a televised play, perhaps, and certainly watch anyone of his three movies, but that was it.

Then came Presley, four months after the death of James Dean. First, you could hear this guy, on the radio, and in jukeboxes, throughout the 49 states. Like Sinatra. That's something neither Brando or Dean could ever hope to achieve. And radio was massive, then. And remind me of checking how many jukeboxes were in operation in the US, in 1956. Well, about 1,500 more than in 1955, that's for starteres. Then, you could see this guy on television, mostly on primetime, and in the best programs then in existence, a little like Sinatra, but when you talk about 320 cumulative viewers, not even Sinatra could top that. Then, in November, you could also see this guy in a movie, like 7 million did, the week after his first movie "Love me tender", opened in new York. Then, the cherry on the pie. You could see Elvis Presley do, what he never felt he should do in television (in the beggining, he actually censored himself...), in, take this down, 167 sold out, hysteria filled concerts throughout America, also in the 12 months ince he moved to RCA.

I dare any Michael Jackson fan to give me any year in Michael's prestigious career, where he did more to earn his keep, than Elvis did in 1956.

Look it up, do the reasearch.

Add being with his fans, up close, as reflected in a staggering total of 140,000 photographs, talking with them, shaking hands, or what not.

In fact, for the entire period we are talking about, Presley had 7 days off.

Add his 8 trips to the recording stidio, yielding close to 46 masters, in that same period and, what you have, is a 21 year old who worked his butt off, to get where he wanted.

The same results, in 1957.

Then, he was drafted, at the height of both his career and the Cold War, serving in Germany, close to the East German border, as any soldier and becoming, in less tha 2 years, in the most celebrated GI in the history of the US Army. read Colin Powell's bio, and check what he, and his children think of the 2 minutes he talked to him.

No, Presley was not "groundbreaking". The entire second generation of musicians credits him, not just as the person they idiolized, tahat's easy, but as theb one they wanted to be (not be like, which is different).

Finally, Paul McCartney, unlike Lennon, who immedately credited Presley as the one he preferred, "came out of the closet about 26 years after lennon did. In his interview with Larry King, less than 5 years ago, and to King's question, on who had been his favourite, and the one who had influenced him the most, he replied "Elvis". King told him then that he thought that that applied only to Lennon, and Paul said again "It was Elvis". End of story...
nina

Ottawa, Canada

#33 Jul 23, 2009
Jim Burrows wrote:
Here are some inacuracies (Part 2)....
excellent posts
Landon

AOL

#34 Jul 23, 2009
Elvis is O.K. but Mike was a better performer on the stage. Elvis only dance move was the pelvis.
You don't think of Fred Ataire and Elvis in the same breath. Mike was a way better dancer. What moment has Elvis ever electrified the crowd like Mike did at Motown 25. Mikes crowds are more diverse than at Elvis concerts. If you go into a dance club, around the world, people would recognize Thriller or Billie Jean and pack the dance floor any song Elvis put out. Mike wrote the greatest album that ever hit the stores, he just didn't sing someone else's song's. In death his albums is topping the charts. Elvis only appeal to an old predomiantly caucasian audience.
Mike song more togetherness songs-The best one ever made "Man in the Mirror,"and then "We are the
world,"and then "Heal the world,"and then the earth song. Elvis is already forgotten,when compared to Mr.Mike Jackson. Mikes dancing improved as he got older, but Elvis only had that tired hip swivel which looked ridiculous to me.I don't believe Elvis sold a billion records neither. When I went to check albums sales, Thriller was the all-time leader with over a 110 million copies sold, the second place albums was only around fifty million. Ican't find an Elvis presley breakdown on sales. Some give me a web address to check Elvis's record sales.
Observer

Parramatta, Australia

#35 Jul 23, 2009
Landon wrote:
What moment has Elvis ever electrified the crowd like Mike did at Motown 25.
At just about every bloody concert he gave, goose.
Observer

Parramatta, Australia

#36 Jul 23, 2009
Landon wrote:
Some give me a web address to check Elvis's record sales.
You don't deserve this for being so rude as to come on an ELVIS forum dissing Elvis, but READ AND LEARN.

http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/one_billion_r...
Observer

Parramatta, Australia

#37 Jul 23, 2009
Oh, and when MJ can attract 100,000 fans to wherever he's buried on the 30th aniversary of his death, we'll owe you an apology.

Elvis forgotten, my ARSE.
Sunshine1982

AOL

#38 Jul 23, 2009
Hey Jim Burrows you asked to give you a year that Michael Jackson was more prestigious as you say how about 1983! Have you ever heard of Thriller! By 1984 it was the biggest selling album of all time eclipsing anything Elvis ever did. In 1984 The Jacksons Victory tour became the biggest selling tour of the 80's. Michael Jaackson was the first entertainer to make 6 million dollars a tv commercial which was pepsi. President Reagan honored Jackson in 1984. Jackson co-wrote We Are The World and gave all proceeds to fight hunger in Africa which to this day still makes money. I could go on and on. Elvis was big in the 50's. Did he have the biggest selling album of all time? Is he listed in the Guinness Book Of World Records as the entertainer who has given more money for charities? Michael was bigger than Elvis when they were alive and in death Elvis has been bigger. Michael Jackson is already the biggest selling artist for 09'. I believe he will eclipse Elvis in death. Only time will tell.
Jim Burrows

Managua, Nicaragua

#39 Jul 23, 2009
For Landon. Here are my comments.

Elvis is O.K. but Mike was a better performer on the stage.( Debatable).

Elvis only dance move was the pelvis (Wrong, just go to youtube and you'll see he had many more different moves than Jackson ever had).

You don't think of Fred Ataire and Elvis in the same breath.(Right).

Mike was a way better dancer (Right).

What moment has Elvis ever electrified the crowd like Mike did at Motown 25. Probably in 1,450 of his 1,458 concerts and, for your information, Michael Jackson lipsynced his way out of that one.

Mikes crowds are more diverse than at Elvis concerts.( Wrong) I sat next to an 81 year old lady, in a wheel chair, and a 12 year old african american kid, seated to the left of my girfriend, when I saw Elvis in Boston, on November 10, 1971.

If you go into a dance club, around the world, people would recognize Thriller or Billie Jean and pack the dance floor any song Elvis put out.(Maybe so). But if you ask the DJ to play Jailhouse Rock, they'll dance their heads and legs off, too.

Mike wrote the greatest album that ever hit the stores, he just didn't sing someone else's song's. Right, but always with the help of another songwriter. Incidentally, I have yet to sea a single picture of Jackson playing a guitar or a piano.

In death his albums is topping the charts.(Right, and deservedly so).

Elvis only appeal to an old predominatly caucasian audience. Wrong, when he started he topped the R^B charts three times.

Mike song more togetherness songs-The best one ever made "Man in the Mirror,"and then "We are the
world,"and then "Heal the world,"and then the earth song. Elvis is already forgotten.(Wrong) For instance, last week, out of the 125,000 results one got out of a google news search for Michael Jackson, 32,000 referred to Elvis. When Elvis died, there was not a single reference made of the Jackson Five, and there'd been 7 years since they had fiest topped the US charts. And this in spite of the fact that they used Elvis-like jumpsuits in their concerts.

Mikes dancing improved as he got older, but Elvis only had that tired hip swivel which looked ridiculous to me.(Wrong again. Check my earlier comment).

I don't believe Elvis sold a billion records neither.(I understand why you wouldn't).

When I went to check albums sales, Thriller was the all-time leader with over a 110 million copies sold, the second place albums was only around fifty million.(Right on target).

I can't find an Elvis Presley breakdown on sales.(The only audited measure of album sales is in the US, and the ones that do the count are the RIAA. You won't like what you'll see, since Elvis has twice as many millions of albums sold than Michael, in the US. And thrice as many singles...

Here it is, the one for the albums

http://www.riaa.org/goldandplatinumdata.php...
Sunshine1982

AOL

#40 Jul 23, 2009
Hey Jim Burrows you say the Jackson Five had not had a hit in 7 years at the time of Elvis' death. You are wrong! They changed there name to the Jackson's but the song enjoy yourself was a top 10 hit in early 1977. Never can say goodbye in 1975. Dancing machine in 1974. Just to name a few. They changed their name from the Jackson Five to The Jackson's because they went from motown to cbs and cbs wanted the name change. They were the same group.At times songwriters wrote Michael's songs but most of the time MJ was involved with the melody. MJ wrote songs like Beat It Billie Jean, Heal The World, We Are The World, Rock With You, just to name a few. He wrote songs on his own for every solo album he did. Siedah Garrett wrote Man in the mirror though. I love Elvis to believe it or not. They both are great and won't be forgotten.
nina

Canada

#41 Jul 23, 2009
Landon wrote:
//Elvis only dance move was the pelvis.///
Elvis was NOT a dancer

Elvis was a performer who did far more than wiggle his hips

he didn't need fireworks, explosions, laser shows, back up dancers and all the other stuff that MJ needed to put on a show

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