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Jina Wild

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#42
Jan 7, 2010
 
candysvett2 wrote:
WHY do YOu attack linda thompson who took care of elvis for 4 years? YOU don't know her or her motives either.
So you just pick and choose who you want to be right and wrong and your word is law? I think not.
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but yours is?

There is not a person writing on this forum who knows the full and real truth (unless we have an insider amongst us)- all we are are fans who read books and draw conclusions. Doesn't make anybody right or wrong, but there are some things being said on here which are cruel and hurtful.

Dick Grob according to many was just a desperate man trying his best to sell a crap book - so is it difficult to image that he would fill it with innuendo and lies in order to make a buck?

Not saying that there was no call made that day, but draw that allegation to its natural conclusion and it falls flat on its face.
If Billy or Dick know for sure that there was a call they had an obligation to report it to the authorities and for it to be investigated- they didn't and it wasn't as far as I know. Or maybe it was investigated and there was no evidence of any such call having been made?

I don't know the answers - and I really don't think that any one of us does.
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#43
Jan 7, 2010
 
Dick Grob says he has the proof about the call , yet no one has ever seen it.You would think if he had proof on paper he would have scanned it in his book, i mean it was one of his most important points.
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#44
Jan 7, 2010
 
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Where did you read ginger drugged herself for cramps?
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yesterday in the Alanna Nash interview part 2 on EIN
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Jan 7, 2010
 
Shelia wrote:
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.... And, I am sure Elvis respected her for that.
no, Evis wanted people where he wanted them - not where they wanted to be

ginger was on her way out - and there was already a replacement lined up - Alicia Kerwin
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#46
Jan 7, 2010
 
Once again Nina,,you have posted an A-1 post.

Thanks for the info about the cramps thing.
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no, Evis wanted people where he wanted them - not where they wanted to be
ginger was on her way out - and there was already a replacement lined up - Alicia Kerwin
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#47
Jan 7, 2010
 
RIGHT ON....it is widely known that she was going to be out of there....and you are right about alicia kerwin...

Elvis had NO intention of marrying ginger..and there was NO dress being made as she claimed.....

IF there HAD been you can bet your sweet behind that she would have had it on the auction block also.
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no, Evis wanted people where he wanted them - not where they wanted to be
ginger was on her way out - and there was already a replacement lined up - Alicia Kerwin
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#48
Jan 7, 2010
 
Dick wasn't the only person who says the call was made..

THe enquirer was swarming the place almost before the official announcement was made....so you tell me....HOW did they know?
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Dick Grob says he has the proof about the call , yet no one has ever seen it.You would think if he had proof on paper he would have scanned it in his book, i mean it was one of his most important points.
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#49
Jan 7, 2010
 
I have NEVER said I was right...I post what I have researched and checked twice with other sources.
Jina Wild wrote:
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but yours is?
There is not a person writing on this forum who knows the full and real truth (unless we have an insider amongst us)- all we are are fans who read books and draw conclusions. Doesn't make anybody right or wrong, but there are some things being said on here which are cruel and hurtful.
Dick Grob according to many was just a desperate man trying his best to sell a crap book - so is it difficult to image that he would fill it with innuendo and lies in order to make a buck?
Not saying that there was no call made that day, but draw that allegation to its natural conclusion and it falls flat on its face.
If Billy or Dick know for sure that there was a call they had an obligation to report it to the authorities and for it to be investigated- they didn't and it wasn't as far as I know. Or maybe it was investigated and there was no evidence of any such call having been made?
I don't know the answers - and I really don't think that any one of us does.
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Jan 7, 2010
 
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You don't know Ginger Alden so very unfair of you to say anything regarding why she was there. If she was there for only the $$$ she could have been on every tv show that existed regarding Elvis afterwards. But guess what? She wasn't and never has been while all of the others have been and cashing in on all of their many tell all books that they have written. I am sure Ginger Alden has had that chance too and even more so as she was engaged to him!
And regarding the house. Elvis was known to buy homes for everyone so why not his financee? I read all about that lawsuit and it was filed because Elvis's wishes were not being fulfilled and some type of legality which neither me nor you has the right to say was wrong because we were not there.
I don't blame her or her family for doing so as evidently this was something he wanted or thought was done. I would have wanted Elvis's wishes fulfilled because I care for him.
Just a new poster budding in here,.

But I always believed Ginger was "paid off" to shut up and go away. Either by EPE or Pricilla, Lisa, whoever. That is why she never really did and interviews or talk shows etc. She already got her money, and it was in the deal to take it and go away.
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Jan 7, 2010
 
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Once again Nina,,you have posted an A-1 post.
Thanks for the info about the cramps thing.
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I recall reading it in previous books, but the Alanna interview was very recent.

Ginger also may well have been dressed and made up before she called for help - the Nancy Rook book just confirms that she was this way when she came downstairs

I'm going to cull through some Elvis books and do a comparison chart of the stories claimed about Aug 16.
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Jan 7, 2010
 
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I recall reading it in previous books, but the Alanna interview was very recent.
Ginger also may well have been dressed and made up before she called for help - the Nancy Rook book just confirms that she was this way when she came downstairs
I'm going to cull through some Elvis books and do a comparison chart of the stories claimed about Aug 16.
Ginger had her makeup on because she never took it off when she slept with Elvis! Any woman should be able to readily understand that, particularly in an era when heavy eye makeup was in fashion. I wouldn't be surprised if even Priscilla kept her double-or-triple pair of eyelashes and all that on at night. What woman wants to be barefaced around someone like Elvis?
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Jan 7, 2010
 
Nancy wrote:
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Just a new poster budding in here,.
But I always believed Ginger was "paid off" to shut up and go away. Either by EPE or Pricilla, Lisa, whoever. That is why she never really did and interviews or talk shows etc. She already got her money, and it was in the deal to take it and go away.
But Ginger gave an in-depth interview to Albert Goldman for his book "Elvis" and and did several other interviews. There is a YouTube video of Ginger talking about Elvis in 1980. So nobody paid her to go away. Besides, Lisa was too young and had no money of her own so she sure wouldn't have paid her off. Elvis Presley Enterprises didn't exist at that time. I can't see Priscilla giving her, or any woman, a red cent.

It would be nice imo if, for a change, someone would take Ginger's statements seriously instead of relying on a book by a discredited pathological liar.

Links:

Bill Burk laying out the truth of Ginger not calling the National Enquirer, that the call wasn't from Graceland and it was a HE, not a she, and that Bill would bet his life savings that Ginger had no involvement:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.elvis.king...

Toledo Blade article, Vets Question Claims by Elvis's Bodyguard:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...

Bill Burk's post calling Grob a liar, Sallah a pussy:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.elvis.king...
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#54
Jan 7, 2010
 
candysvett2 wrote:
Dick wasn't the only person who says the call was made..
THe enquirer was swarming the place almost before the official announcement was made....so you tell me....HOW did they know?
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Isn't the burden of proof upon you to prove your claims?

If you really do believe that Ginger Alden was that twisted then back it up with solid evidence.

Otherwise just state it as your belief and not as a fact.
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#55
Jan 7, 2010
 
It would have to take a very sick and twisted mind to do what some of those Leeches have malicously claimed regarding The National Enguirer incident, or any call that was supposedly made from Graceland.. you can bet that the police would have been all over that one not to mention the news as that would have been more than highly suspicious!
"Friend of Bill Burk" thanks for taking the time to post those links!
And, for stating the facts.. not hearsay or repeated LIES coming from jealous fans or The Leeches or The Leeches wives.
Also, thank you Jina Wild. Refreshing to finally read posts that DO make sense!
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Jan 7, 2010
 
I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY SEVERAL OF THE MEMPHIS MAFIA THAT gINGERS TIME WITH eLVIS WAS NUMBERED. tHERE WAS A NEW GIRL THAT WAS GOING TO HOOK UP WITH ELVIS ON THE TOUR. HE WANTED GINGER GONE BY THE TIME HE GOT BACK .
THEY HAVE ALSO SAID THAT Elvis stated he was not going to build her mom a home no matter how many times she hints at it.
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#57
Jan 7, 2010
 
No,,the burden of proof doesn't lie with me..how absolutely silly.

The burden of proof lies with the people who made these statments 32 years ago...

JUST like YOU,,,,I have read and researched the available materials..so if you want proof someone..contact the authors..have fun !!
Jina Wild wrote:
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Isn't the burden of proof upon you to prove your claims?
If you really do believe that Ginger Alden was that twisted then back it up with solid evidence.
Otherwise just state it as your belief and not as a fact.
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#58
Jan 7, 2010
 
YES Joe,,but get ready , because the fantasy land people on here are going to attack you and tell you EVERYONE in the mm are liars and scum.

THey give credit to a woman who was there, USING elvis for money and a home for her divorced mother, rather than give an inth of credith to guys who took care of his needs,BY HIS CHOICE for years.

YOU are right,,,from many credible accounts Ginger was on her way out. I don't find it off base to think that everyone surrounding him told similiar stories without pressure on them to do so.

What a world we live in..I TOOK up for elvis and they give credit to ginger, all the while saying I am not a fan.

BORING....
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I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY SEVERAL OF THE MEMPHIS MAFIA THAT gINGERS TIME WITH eLVIS WAS NUMBERED. tHERE WAS A NEW GIRL THAT WAS GOING TO HOOK UP WITH ELVIS ON THE TOUR. HE WANTED GINGER GONE BY THE TIME HE GOT BACK .
THEY HAVE ALSO SAID THAT Elvis stated he was not going to build her mom a home no matter how many times she hints at it.
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#59
Jan 7, 2010
 
She did do interviews, and she got many $$$$$ from elvis when she was with him...
But there is NO way he would have married her.

I don't care what these people say,,,,she found Elvis dead, got made up and called downstairs later..

She also called the enquirer..
Nancy wrote:
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Just a new poster budding in here,.
But I always believed Ginger was "paid off" to shut up and go away. Either by EPE or Pricilla, Lisa, whoever. That is why she never really did and interviews or talk shows etc. She already got her money, and it was in the deal to take it and go away.
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#60
Jan 7, 2010
 
NIna,,,how could makeup stay on a person who had supposedly taken pills for cramps? Think about it..PERFECT makeup after being asleep for several hours and drugged to boot?
nina wrote:
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I recall reading it in previous books, but the Alanna interview was very recent.
Ginger also may well have been dressed and made up before she called for help - the Nancy Rook book just confirms that she was this way when she came downstairs
I'm going to cull through some Elvis books and do a comparison chart of the stories claimed about Aug 16.
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#61
Jan 7, 2010
 
It wasn't just grob who made the statement that a phone call was made...

BUT....there is a theory that ginger's mom made the call from HER house..so searching graceland's phone records, defunct or not then, would serve no purpose if the call didn't originate there..
BUT...again.

it was a female voice who was called.

What matters in all this...she found him,,dead or not...she should have called down immediately.
Friend of Bill Burk wrote:
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But Ginger gave an in-depth interview to Albert Goldman for his book "Elvis" and and did several other interviews. There is a YouTube video of Ginger talking about Elvis in 1980. So nobody paid her to go away. Besides, Lisa was too young and had no money of her own so she sure wouldn't have paid her off. Elvis Presley Enterprises didn't exist at that time. I can't see Priscilla giving her, or any woman, a red cent.
It would be nice imo if, for a change, someone would take Ginger's statements seriously instead of relying on a book by a discredited pathological liar.
Links:
Bill Burk laying out the truth of Ginger not calling the National Enquirer, that the call wasn't from Graceland and it was a HE, not a she, and that Bill would bet his life savings that Ginger had no involvement:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.elvis.king...
Toledo Blade article, Vets Question Claims by Elvis's Bodyguard:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...
Bill Burk's post calling Grob a liar, Sallah a pussy:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.elvis.king...

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