Gay celebs just don't get it

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John

Rancho Cordova, CA

#1 May 6, 2007
Film is made with a Scientologist on board and as usual "boycott" is in the air.

Substitute jew for Scientologist and you have Germany circa 30s.

BE got the same treatment.

“Honorary Squirrel Buster”

Since: Apr 07

Tulsa, OK

#2 May 6, 2007
John wrote:
Film is made with a Scientologist on board and as usual "boycott" is in the air.
That's because CofS is a 'big, fat, global scam,' as our friends on South Park were kind enough to tell us. Legally download the episode here.

http://www.hedning.no/humor/southpark/southpa...
John wrote:
Substitute jew for Scientologist and you have Germany circa 30s.
BE got the same treatment.
What's that, number 700? You constantly try to align CofS with Holocaust era jews, but no one is buying it. Certainly not Germany, which considers CofS a dangerous cult in need of supervision.
Polly

Sydney, Australia

#3 May 7, 2007
Is john saying Travolta is gay and doesnt get it? OOPS! John isnt saying anything other than "LAH LAH LAH LAH LOOK OVER HERE!! DONT LOOK ANYWHERE EXCEPT WHERE I SAY! LAH LAH LAH LAH !"

P.S If John Travolta is gay John, you shouldnt be like that towards him. But you must, its tenet that homosexuals are degraded beings and have evil intentions according to scientology teachings. I gues thats why Quentin was murdered by your religion. Would you like a link to the synopsis of Quentins death?

http://www.lermanet2.com/exit/quentincoroner....
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/Quentin_Hubbard...
John

Rancho Cordova, CA

#4 May 7, 2007
Polly wrote:
Is john saying Travolta is gay and doesnt get it? OOPS! John isnt saying anything other than "LAH LAH LAH LAH LOOK OVER HERE!! DONT LOOK ANYWHERE EXCEPT WHERE I SAY! LAH LAH LAH LAH !"
P.S If John Travolta is gay John, you shouldnt be like that towards him. But you must, its tenet that homosexuals are degraded beings and have evil intentions according to scientology teachings. I gues thats why Quentin was murdered by your religion. Would you like a link to the synopsis of Quentins death?
http://www.lermanet2.com/exit/quentincoroner....
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/Quentin_Hubbard...
Polly Its impossible to talk to you. Your hatred is so thick you can not have a 2 way dialog without spilling your toxic waste every chance you get. Is everyone sick around you too?

“Honorary Squirrel Buster”

Since: Apr 07

Tulsa, OK

#5 May 7, 2007
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Polly Its impossible to talk to you. Your hatred is so thick you can not have a 2 way dialog without spilling your toxic waste every chance you get. Is everyone sick around you too?
You're the one that constantly labels us 'bigots' and 'nazis' for saying what we think about the CofS. You're actually quite bigoted yourself when it comes to psychiatrists, but you naturally don't understand that or why your posts are dealt with so easily.
John

Rancho Cordova, CA

#6 May 7, 2007
A good friend of mine is now reading Dianetics today. You know why Pill? A psychiatrist hooked his wife on drugs behind his back and now is convinced he is trying to kill her.

The psyche has been outed for the home wrecker he is and calm now reigns.

A lawsuite will be filed soon.
Polly

Sydney, Australia

#7 May 7, 2007
Youre a liar John, and I'll stick by that until you provide the proof of what you say, but you cant. Youre like that sockpuppet that periodically comes into Topix and posts that he/she was a victim of ECT and drugging and lobotomizing and rape and BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Youre spiralling out of control john, grab the cans and flatten them buttons and blow that charge.

“Honorary Squirrel Buster”

Since: Apr 07

Tulsa, OK

#8 May 7, 2007
John wrote:
A good friend of mine is now reading Dianetics today. You know why Pill? A psychiatrist hooked his wife on drugs behind his back and now is convinced he is trying to kill her.
The psyche has been outed for the home wrecker he is and calm now reigns.
A lawsuite will be filed soon.
Yeah, sure John. When you have some proof of that lawsuit I'll pay attention.

“Honorary Squirrel Buster”

Since: Apr 07

Tulsa, OK

#9 May 7, 2007
Red Pill wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah, sure John. When you have some proof of that lawsuit I'll pay attention.
PS.

See what I mean Polly?
Ethan

Clovis, CA

#10 May 7, 2007
Even if that is true (which I doubt), I'd have to say that all the psychiatrists/psychologist or whatever I have met are very nice and are only trying to help people. It's not their fault a psychologist declared L. Ron insane and ever since he (and his evil cult) had a hatred for psychs.
Polly

Australia

#11 May 7, 2007
John may well come up with some reported incident that will fit his bullshit. The drones over at ARS have crap up their sleeves all the time when they run the OP's there.

When I say...HEY! a Celebrity scientologist was indicted on nine counts including sodomy of a minor, I include the link to the information in the first instance. I wont at this time because Im waiting for john to ask for proof. Then I'll post the link, I'll even post the link to how this particular scientologist has been trying to have his own admission to sex with a minor over the telephone excluded from the Trial. But thats another thread I believe...sorry for getting off topic.

“Proud SP since 2003”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#12 May 7, 2007
There are bad pyschiatrists just as there are bad cardiologists, etc. But these horror stories do not ring true. It seems that Scientologists would have us believe they know multiple victims of evil psychs and it simply is not that rampant. The vast majority are good people who go into the profession to help, just as my friend discovered when her 5 year old daughter was diagnosed with anxiety. The psychiatrist told her up front medication was an absolute last resort and that often it can make children worse. The child was anxiety free after 4 months with NO drugs. This is not the exception but the rule. The belief that all mental health professionals are evil is just absurd. Psychiatry has it's place and until Scientology comes up with a proven, documented method for treating the mentally ill they need to quit ranting about the evil psyches.
Krysti

South Elgin, IL

#13 May 8, 2007
John wrote:
A good friend of mine is now reading Dianetics today. You know why Pill? A psychiatrist hooked his wife on drugs behind his back and now is convinced he is trying to kill her.
The psyche has been outed for the home wrecker he is and calm now reigns.
A lawsuite will be filed soon.
Oh, please... Yeah, I'm sure the psyche is trying to kill her. A gun would have been simpler, don't ya think? That's hilarious that you actually believe psychiatrists are out to kill people.

By the way, alcohol is addictive, do you blame the alcohol manufacturers and distributors when someone becomes an alcoholic? Ummm, no, I don't think so. People are responsible for their own actions. If the guy's wife is addicted to meds - she was not taking them as prescribed and that would be, uhhh, her fault.

Krysti
John

Rancho Cordova, CA

#14 May 8, 2007
Krysti wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, please... Yeah, I'm sure the psyche is trying to kill her. A gun would have been simpler, don't ya think? That's hilarious that you actually believe psychiatrists are out to kill people.
By the way, alcohol is addictive, do you blame the alcohol manufacturers and distributors when someone becomes an alcoholic? Ummm, no, I don't think so. People are responsible for their own actions. If the guy's wife is addicted to meds - she was not taking them as prescribed and that would be, uhhh, her fault.
Krysti
When I wrote HE I ment her husband not the psyche. However your version isnt out of the question either. She is convinced at this time (while on the psyche drugs) he is out to kill her. They have a child together The psyche is a hidden third party instigating all this. My friend DIDNT EVEN KNOW she was see this drug pushing psyche!

Can we say drug induced paranoia?

Krysti, Do you think a drug induced psychosis could CAUSE somebody to commit senseless mayhem and murder?

The FDA thinks so. Read the fold out in the little black box. Make sure you have a magnifying glass.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#15 May 8, 2007
I'm sorry to hear about your friends wife John, it can't be pleasant for either of them.

The thing with health care, in this country anyway, is patient confidentiality. On the presumption it also applies in the USA, the Psych doctor is probably following said rule of confidentiality.

When you say to read the little black box, I presume you mean the cautions and side effects panel?
Not meaning to belittle you John, but in fairness, at least the evil Psychs are genuine enough to put a warning label on the drugs.

Just my thoughts, I obviously don't know if medical confidentiality applies in the States.

SSB
John

Rancho Cordova, CA

#16 May 8, 2007
Those warnings were forced onto them Boom. after years and years of battles. The socalled front groups like CCHR led the charge.

With truth of the situation my friend now knows the source of his wifes psychosis. From here he can now act.

Very strange this landed on my plate (He now lives with us)at this time. He is not a Scientologist and goes to a Catholoc church.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#17 May 8, 2007
A good job too, warnings I mean.
As far as I remember, we have always had warnings and contra-indications on our medicines in this country, I am in my late 30's.
Krysti

South Elgin, IL

#18 May 8, 2007
John wrote:
<quoted text>
When I wrote HE I ment her husband not the psyche. However your version isnt out of the question either. She is convinced at this time (while on the psyche drugs) he is out to kill her. They have a child together.
First question, what did she see a psychiatrist for? John, my cousin went through a very similar situation. She was convinced her whole family was trying to molest her kids. She was not or never had been on ANY medication.
John wrote:
The psyche is a hidden third party instigating all this.
So, you think the psychiatrist is hiding out giving her meds to make her lose her mind? Do you even realize how crazy that sounds. I know scientology teaches ridiculous stuff about psychiatrists, but you claim to be able to think on your own - so think about it.
John wrote:
My friend DIDNT EVEN KNOW she was see this drug pushing psyche!
If your friend didn't know his wife was seeing a psychiatrist then that is because his wife did not tell him. Are you blaming the psychiatrist for that too? It would be against the law for the psychiatrist to tell ANYONE (without the consent of the patient) due to confidentiality. If you don't think that is right, then blame the law, not the psychiatrist who has to follow it.
John wrote:
Can we say drug induced paranoia?
She is definitely going through a psychotic episode (assuming no one is really trying to kill her). John, you can become psychotic whether on medication or not. However, anti-depressants, if taken by themselves, can cause mania which can lead to psychosis in someone who is bipolar. That is why it is extremely important to get a complete evaluation from a qualified psychiatrist before going on medication. Again, what did she go see the psychiatrist for? What were her symptoms? What kind of medication is she taking? Is she taking it as prescribed? All of this information is important in determining the cause of her psychosis.

cont.
Krysti

South Elgin, IL

#19 May 8, 2007
John wrote:
Krysti, Do you think a drug induced psychosis could CAUSE somebody to commit senseless mayhem and murder?
John, I think there is a risk for anyone who is having a psychotic episode to become a danger to themselves or others. That is why there are hospitals for the mentally ill where people can get proper treatment around the clock if needed. Medication does work for a lot of people and taken consistently and properly, these people can live normal, happy and productive lives. The people who are mentally ill who are med resistant are the ones I feel bad for.
John wrote:
The FDA thinks so. Read the fold out in the little black box. Make sure you have a magnifying glass.
I know about the warnings, John, and I am glad they are there. People should be aware of any and all POSSIBLE side effects, no matter how rare they might be. Also, ALL psychiatrists and doctors should be warning patients about ALL possible side effects before prescribing it. In addition, people should be monitored closely when first starting out on any new medication.

People who are on meds are on them for a reason, John, and the reason is they have had mental health issues BEFORE going on medication.

If you are a true friend to this guy, John, you will not poison him against psychiatrists because of your personal, unqualified, opinions. Let him read this post if nothing else.

I'm not sure what your thought process is for how you think the CofS is going to help... I have never gotten an answer from any scientologist on here how scientology helps mentally ill people. All I've heard is how it supposedly prevents you from becoming mentally ill in the first place (which you know is not the case).

This is serious, John. She is in a psychotic state of mind if she, for no valid reason, thinks her husband is trying to kill her. This is not about scientology being bad and psychiatry being good or vice versa, she needs serious help.

Please keep us posted on how they are doing.

Krysti

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