Culture wars: Why gay marriage and ab...

Culture wars: Why gay marriage and abortion have been 'decoupled'

There are 384 comments on the Christian Science Monitor story from Jun 29, 2013, titled Culture wars: Why gay marriage and abortion have been 'decoupled'. In it, Christian Science Monitor reports that:

Governor Rick Perry addresses a large audience in attendance at the National Right To Life Convention, Thursday in Grapevine, Texas.

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liberal one and two

Minneapolis, MN

#166 Jul 9, 2013
Europa Report wrote:
I'm gay. I am, and always have been, against abortion, by anyone, at anytime, for any reason. Abortion is the MURDER of innocent babies.
liberals can not be Christians:

#1 gay relationships

#2 abortion

Very simple to understand.

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#167 Jul 9, 2013
Broseph wrote:
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I guess Operation:Ajax is a liberal myth in your mind? And it reaches so much farther than Iran.
Operations like that and Iran kept US and the USSR from firing nuke missile at each other. Learn from the past, LIVE in the PRESENT and WORK TOWARD A BETTER FUTURE!

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#168 Jul 9, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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That's not what you said earlier, Fraud.
Yes it is, look back and see!

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#169 Jul 9, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>If you don't want her to have an abortion, don't get her pregnant.
There's your say-so.
How about yes I will take care of you and the baby and we will start a family!

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#170 Jul 9, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Over whether or not a woman will continue her pregnancy? Damned straight that's what I'm saying.
When he can get pregnant, then HE will get to make that decision for his own pregnancy, and his female partner will be the one who has no say.
A man not having a say-so in the pregnancy is the same as telling someone they have an opinion about the war ONLY if they fought in one!

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#171 Jul 9, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Yes it is, look back and see!
It most certainly is not. You said to stay away from your guns. You said nothing about laws. Well guess what? I have no need of your guns, as I have my own.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#172 Jul 9, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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How about yes I will take care of you and the baby and we will start a family!
If that's what she wants too, GREAT. But if not, don't you think you ought to know before you have sex??

You have as much responsibility to NOT CONTRIBUTE to unwanted pregnancy, as she does.

Know your child's prospective mother, before you risk making her their actual mother.

Communication. It's everyone's responsibility.

“Blessed Be”

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#173 Jul 9, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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A man not having a say-so in the pregnancy is the same as telling someone they have an opinion about the war ONLY if they fought in one!
Nonsense. I did NOT say you couldn't have an opinion, I said you don't get to make the decision. Your lame attempt at a comparison sucks.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#174 Jul 9, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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A man not having a say-so in the pregnancy is the same as telling someone they have an opinion about the war ONLY if they fought in one!
Your OPINIONS are not at risk - our bodily autonomy IS, as long as some folks think abortion should be illegal.

No one is saying you can't HAVE an opinion - just that the woman doesn't HAVE to take it into consideration.

Asking if she wants to be a mother if your sperm takes hold in one of her eggs, takes less than ten seconds of your time. Once you've got the answer to THAT question, you may proceed accordingly.

Is that too difficult?
Sheik Yerbouti

Doylestown, PA

#175 Jul 9, 2013
No one is forced to have an abortion and no one is required to have a gay wedding. The trouble starts when people want to impose their beliefs on others which is not an American tradition! Mind your own business!
Broseph

New Castle, DE

#176 Jul 9, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Operations like that and Iran kept US and the USSR from firing nuke missile at each other. Learn from the past, LIVE in the PRESENT and WORK TOWARD A BETTER FUTURE!
BS. Mohammad Mosaddeg was an ardent anti-communist, and was a strong nationalist for Iran. He was champion for democracy, and even Time magazine acknowledged that. That was the problem. He was for Iran, and not for the seven sisters of oil. He nationalized Iran's oil, and the British, along with the US, hated that. The government heads aren't concerned with working for a better future for you or me. They're concerned about working for a better future for the corporate interests that got them their jobs. Wake up.

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#177 Jul 10, 2013
Broseph wrote:
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BS. Mohammad Mosaddeg was an ardent anti-communist, and was a strong nationalist for Iran. He was champion for democracy, and even Time magazine acknowledged that. That was the problem. He was for Iran, and not for the seven sisters of oil. He nationalized Iran's oil, and the British, along with the US, hated that. The government heads aren't concerned with working for a better future for you or me. They're concerned about working for a better future for the corporate interests that got them their jobs. Wake up.
"He nationalized Iran's oil" Sounds like a democracy to me!! How many socialist nations have done the same thing?

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#178 Jul 10, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Your OPINIONS are not at risk - our bodily autonomy IS, as long as some folks think abortion should be illegal.
No one is saying you can't HAVE an opinion - just that the woman doesn't HAVE to take it into consideration.
Asking if she wants to be a mother if your sperm takes hold in one of her eggs, takes less than ten seconds of your time. Once you've got the answer to THAT question, you may proceed accordingly.
Is that too difficult?
Show me where I said abortions should be illegal? If they woman does not have to take MY opinion of the situation to consideration THEN KEEP YOUR F*CKING LEGS CLOSED AND THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN!

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#179 Jul 10, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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It most certainly is not. You said to stay away from your guns. You said nothing about laws. Well guess what? I have no need of your guns, as I have my own.
Laws vs rights is how this started. My RIGHT to own a gun that people want to take away vs the LAW saying it is legal to have an abortion that people will defend to the end! 3400 a day vs 11,000 gun deaths a year! Which is the bigger killer?

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#180 Jul 10, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Laws vs rights is how this started. My RIGHT to own a gun that people want to take away vs the LAW saying it is legal to have an abortion that people will defend to the end! 3400 a day vs 11,000 gun deaths a year! Which is the bigger killer?
It's STILL not what you said. Be clearer next time.

What people? Not THIS person. I too own guns.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#181 Jul 10, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Show me where I said abortions should be illegal? If they woman does not have to take MY opinion of the situation to consideration THEN KEEP YOUR F*CKING LEGS CLOSED AND THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN!
Show me where I did you f*cking blowhard.

I specifically referred to "some folks" when I made that statement.

I guess those ten seconds of your time it would take to make sure she would willingly carry your seed if she got pregnant, is just too much to ask of a sniveling coward who fears the answer would be a resounding "NO!" And then your say in the matter of whether or not she gets an abortion, would be you not f*cking her.

That sniveling coward would have to live up to his own principles.

And yes - that one specifically refers to you.

Next....
Broseph

New Castle, DE

#182 Jul 10, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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"He nationalized Iran's oil" Sounds like a democracy to me!! How many socialist nations have done the same thing?
It was democracy. The Iranian Parliament unanimously voted to nationalize the oil, and the people of Iran supported it 100%, due to how the 10% British agreement was crippling Iran's economy. The nationalizing of Iran's oil made him a national, an international, hero. I like how we, in America, are all about being nationalists, but when other countries do the same, we yell out buzzwords like "rogue" or "socialist". Also, it's cute how you support democracy, yet only when it suits your interests. Islam is full of pillaging and barbarism, but it's okay when I do it, right? Sickening.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#183 Jul 10, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Laws vs rights is how this started. My RIGHT to own a gun that people want to take away vs the LAW saying it is legal to have an abortion that people will defend to the end! 3400 a day vs 11,000 gun deaths a year! Which is the bigger killer?
Constitutional Laws RECOGNIZE rights, mister. The United States Constitution is not in the business of removing rights, but RECOGNIZING them. The right to an abortion adheres to, and is protected by, the United States Constitution - removing it does not, and is not.

Try again?
Ravianna

Lincoln City, OR

#184 Jul 10, 2013
If someone thinks "gay" marriage is about rights and then says that people have no rights while they are in their mother's womb they are a hypocrite.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#185 Jul 10, 2013
Ravianna wrote:
If someone thinks "gay" marriage is about rights and then says that people have no rights while they are in their mother's womb they are a hypocrite.
Gay people are born. Born people have the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Born people do NOT have the right to conscript, or to demand the use of, any organs and systems belonging to another, without that other's consent. Neither do the unborn.

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