Diana Ross had no female Motown friends

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When Diana Ross was with the Supremes (Florence Ballard-Mary Wilson-Cindy Birdsong) she never got along with the other Motown females and never had any friends, she never even had personal female friends except for Suzanne De Passe and this was later within The Supremes success, I think by the time Miss De Passe joined Motown, Florence Ballard had left the company?.

I remember reading in a well respected Magazine that Diana Ross her self said she did not have any female friends except for Florence and Mary and that both Florence and Mary had alot of females and male friends it seemed to be easier for Mary and Florence to get along with everyone but she had problems because most female (especially black females) were all extremely jealouse of her.

Although now I read that she does have close female friends and I guess that is because of her age.
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Jan 26, 2007
 
what a crock of @#!@#!
Jeez weren't you taught never to believe everything you read?
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Jan 26, 2007
 
i agree with you--i think diana has almost always had more "male friends"--maybe its her ambitious nature---flo & mary did attend a different high school than diana--so they were no doubt closer..
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When Diana Ross was with the Supremes (Florence Ballard-Mary Wilson-Cindy Birdsong) she never got along with the other Motown females and never had any friends, she never even had personal female friends except for Suzanne De Passe and this was later within The Supremes success, I think by the time Miss De Passe joined Motown, Florence Ballard had left the company?.
I remember reading in a well respected Magazine that Diana Ross her self said she did not have any female friends except for Florence and Mary and that both Florence and Mary had alot of females and male friends it seemed to be easier for Mary and Florence to get along with everyone but she had problems because most female (especially black females) were all extremely jealouse of her.
Although now I read that she does have close female friends and I guess that is because of her age.
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People confuse Diana Ross the "star" with Diana Ross the human being and person. Very few people know that Diana had a very tight relationship with her mother...and oldest sister....and it was her mother and sister she spent most of her time with way back when. "The Supremes" to her was a job.....a career......not her life. She wasnt into partying, drugs, or alcohol.......or even men. She never fell into the traps as other rock stars did......and offstage is a very private person. Perhaps this is where the legend was born that she was a snobby bitch.........and the results are there..........Ballards foray into booze.......and Mary,s ultimate demise into men and cocaine. Diana had a life OUTSIDE the Supremes .........did she care what the Marvelettes were doing on a Saturday night???.......I doubt it. Today........being "Diana Ross" comes in at a distant second to her kids..........and if all of these other bitchy females dont like it.........tuff shit !!!
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I have read every possible thing about Florence Ballard you can find on the internet, I know what happened. Some jealousy might have been brewing between Diana and other female artists but the other female artists were more upset at the way they were being treated by mowtown, Berry Gordy said to Martha Reeves to more over because The Supremes were the big thing not her and The Vandellas, now that is NO WAY to treat your artists he did the same to Florence and Florence couldn't stand it FLORENCE DIDNT HAVE TO LET DIANA IN THE GROUP, IF THERE WAS NO FLORENCE OR MARY NO ONE WOULD NO NOTHING ABOUT DIANA ROSS. Appearently HollandDozierHolland (the producers and songwriters who produced and wrote some of the biggest hits in motown history) were sick of the treatment they were getting and thats why they left. Florence didnt go into showbusiness to be pushed to the back she was always solo, her solo singing is what got her noticed and she was ASKED to form a group and Diana was added in OK. I have nothing against Diana as she put her work in including night shift for berry gordy and she is reaping the rewards but so did Mary and Florence. Florence tried they all did they were sisters, not biologically but they were great friends, they just all took different paths or different paths were chosen for them. They are all GREAT singers and Florence had a beautifull soprano voice and a very strong alto one making her versatile, Mary a more jazzy-orientated alto but strong and Diana we all know about. Lets celebrate The Supremes, Diana Ross, Florence Ballard, Mary Wilson and the ones that were to follow. One final thing please PLEASE people do not disrespect these artists what Martha Reeves and The Vandellas, Gladys Knight, Billie Holiday and The Supremes, The Temptations and many others was open the door for many black artists we have today no matter what pot they smoked or who drank what, they shaped music as we have it today so RESPECT them and TREASURE there very existence. The also had racism to deal with in there times as well making it even harder to make it but they did it.
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I am really tired of everyone blaming Diana Ross for what happened to the other Supremes... There is absolutely nothing wrong with knowing what you want and how to be aggressive enough to go and get it! Berry Gordy saw the potential for a great star and he gave her the backing it took to make a great star! She is deserving of all the recognition she has received. She worked very hard to get where she is, she should always be remembered for making a way for so many others who have followed. She is a lady with class, elegance and sophistication.
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Diana doesn't need friends like that as from the books that you can read about the other female artist at Motown during this time, they all appear to be pretty jealous of everyone. The further diana stays away from them,then and now, the better.
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Diana Ross is the best, all the Supremes were the best in their prime, but we need to get over the who's to blame, move on, I'm sure Miss Ross has...Check out Diana Ross on UTUBE
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Diana Ross is a Super Star, very few Artists will ever have the Fame and Fortune,and longevity that She has experienced.

I think most Females were probably jealous of Talented Diana.

And I stress on that Word Talent, most of the SINGERS today have no Talent.
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neil wrote:
what a crock of @#!@#!
Jeez weren't you taught never to believe everything you read?
Guess you never read what a self serving mega bitch Ross is , also 'greedy gordys ' bed mate , which was main reason Mary and flo were put n 'backburner' so " Bitch Di ' could head the show !
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I do believe that Diana Ross may have back-stabbed the other members of the group to get ahead, but I also hold Berry Gordy accountable as well. Yes Ms. Ross is talented and beautiful, but that does not excuse her behavior. Most people who have that ambitious that Diana Ross had, will do just about anything to get ahead in life. It can be a good or bad thing - it just depends on how you use that ambition. For the most part Ms. Ross has been extremly successful, but in our eyes, but she has certainly had many disappointments due to her jealously of other female artists and her selfishness.
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Jerry wrote:
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Guess you never read what a self serving mega bitch Ross is , also 'greedy gordys ' bed mate , which was main reason Mary and flo were put n 'backburner' so " Bitch Di ' could head the show !
Do you honestly believe that Mary or Florence had star quality or commercial appeal? Answer yourself that question. Mary and Florence both sanged lead initially, they weren't selling records. Why do people still want to blame Diana or Berry Gordy what happened over 37 years ago! Diana Ross left the Supremes January 14, 1970, Jean Terrell was brought in as the new LEAD SINGER of The Suprems. Mary Wilson was still in the group, she could have become the lead and could have brought Florence back. Diana Ross moved on to a solo career. Florence Ballard had a solo career with ABC Records, released two singles. Nothing happened, the BUYING public wasn't interested. Also, before the Supremes appeared nationally on the Ed Sullivan Show in of December 1964, they had already snatched three Number One hits, no one had seen the Supremes just heard the voice and the voice the public was buying was Diana Ross. People quit villifying Diana Ross and hold Mary and Florence accountable for their own careers post Diana Ross and the Supremes.
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DIANA ROSS IS THE BEST
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I Would be her best friend

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Supremes Fan wrote:
When Diana Ross was with the Supremes (Florence Ballard-Mary Wilson-Cindy Birdsong) she never got along with the other Motown females and never had any friends, she never even had personal female friends except for Suzanne De Passe and this was later within The Supremes success, I think by the time Miss De Passe joined Motown, Florence Ballard had left the company?.
I remember reading in a well respected Magazine that Diana Ross her self said she did not have any female friends except for Florence and Mary and that both Florence and Mary had alot of females and male friends it seemed to be easier for Mary and Florence to get along with everyone but she had problems because most female (especially black females) were all extremely jealouse of her.
Although now I read that she does have close female friends and I guess that is because of her age.
my hubby is from Detroit and most of those women were jealous of her or didn't approve of her

sad but sometimes women can be catty

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Do you honestly believe that Mary or Florence had star quality or commercial appeal? Answer yourself that question. Mary and Florence both sanged lead initially, they weren't selling records. Why do people still want to blame Diana or Berry Gordy what happened over 37 years ago! Diana Ross left the Supremes January 14, 1970, Jean Terrell was brought in as the new LEAD SINGER of The Suprems. Mary Wilson was still in the group, she could have become the lead and could have brought Florence back. Diana Ross moved on to a solo career. Florence Ballard had a solo career with ABC Records, released two singles. Nothing happened, the BUYING public wasn't interested. Also, before the Supremes appeared nationally on the Ed Sullivan Show in of December 1964, they had already snatched three Number One hits, no one had seen the Supremes just heard the voice and the voice the public was buying was Diana Ross. People quit villifying Diana Ross and hold Mary and Florence accountable for their own careers post Diana Ross and the Supremes.
I totally agree.

I think in terms of quality Florence and Mary were great...but as many have said in the past, Diana had the commerical appeal.

The other thing is, if you read My Life as a Supreme, Mary shows exactly why she and Flo never got to the top

Florence was wrapped up in her problems and Mary just went along to get along

She was not bold enough to assert herself mostly and by the time she did the group's appeal was waning (when she took the group on the road and did it herself)

I hate those women could not have all been just wonderful, but Mary and so many other people should not have been angry with Diana.

If I join a "girl group" and my manager favors the other girls, it is not the other girls' fault.
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Let's try and be patient and wait for the movie about the Supremes--it is going to take a while. You have to remember the Supremes were performing around the globe way back in sixties. Diana Ross didn't just start performing.
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Guess you never read what a self serving mega bitch Ross is , also 'greedy gordys ' bed mate , which was main reason Mary and flo were put n 'backburner' so " Bitch Di ' could head the show !
Ambition and talent are nothing to be ashamed of. And she and Gordy were in love. No one blinks because Mariah Carey got Tommy Mottola, Shania Twain has Mutt Lange, Celine married Santa Claus. Get over it!
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Dec 30, 2007
 
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Ambition and talent are nothing to be ashamed of. And she and Gordy were in love. No one blinks because Mariah Carey got Tommy Mottola, Shania Twain has Mutt Lange, Celine married Santa Claus. Get over it!
Helena Montana, the hub of the Universe
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Sheryl wrote:
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Ambition and talent are nothing to be ashamed of. And she and Gordy were in love. No one blinks because Mariah Carey got Tommy Mottola, Shania Twain has Mutt Lange, Celine married Santa Claus. Get over it!
Helena Montana, How many famous African-Americans can trace their roots to that State? Doesn't Montana, and Idaho have the largest numbers of Ayrian Nation Members? I wonder how "I love You,... I love You All," would go over there?

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