Brig Niagara deserves your support

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No more Danny DeVito sightings on Erie's bayfront. The movie deal that brought DeVito to Erie to scout out the U.S. Brig Niagara has apparently been canceled. Read more
No-Nickel Jody

Pittsburgh, PA

#2 Aug 27, 2008
Give it to the original Niagara crew, the Ice Zombies, who were buried in Misery Bay. Global warming has thawed them, now they're hungry with the need to feed.
Mark

Erie, PA

#3 Aug 27, 2008
The elitess (used jokingly) in Erie use her for wine and cheese parties whenever they have a whim...let them support it. Maybe Divecchio can build a CC on her.
Jessie

Erie, PA

#4 Aug 27, 2008
The state invested $10 million rebuilding the Niagara in 1990. Just this past month Rendell brought bags of money for all kinds of new projects and buildings...none for the Niagara, the symbol of the City of Erie itself?

Priorities people, priorities.
Mark

Erie, PA

#5 Aug 27, 2008
I know, pull her out of the water and place it in the front of the convention center.Then sell tickets to board her for about $10.00 and use it as a toursit attraction.
No-Nickel Jody

Pittsburgh, PA

#6 Aug 27, 2008
Send her into the Black Sea with humanitarian aid from Pennsylvania to the Georgian people, who are now enslaved by the Russian thug occupation.
Brian Scott

Lorain, OH

#7 Aug 27, 2008
I really hope that the Erie Community will rally around the Niagara by joining the Flagship Niagara League - especially some of our locally owned companies. As funding from the Commonwealth is reduced, we may have to see the Niagara sailing to other ports every year just to generate enough money to sustain herself. Or worse, the Niagara could be dry-docked (like the version of my youth). I really hope that some of our local companies can help by joining the League so that we can see the Niagara continue sailing and stay in our local port more often.
John D

Dubois, IN

#8 Aug 27, 2008
Smedley...when were you banned from the socialist times news banter and gossip room...you were the best contributor.
Brian Scott

Lorain, OH

#9 Aug 27, 2008
Mark has a mis-perception of the Niagara - as I think some others do in Erie. She is not available to the "elite" of Erie for "wine and cheese" parties. The Niagara is a Coast Guard certified sail training vessel and is not available for any sort of "private parties". The Niagara is a serious local resource and is one of the only square rigged training vessels in the United States. Although being a sail training vessel limits her revenue generating opportunities, we are lucky to have this one-of-a-kind authentic warship in our midst. People can book "daysails" when the Niagara is in port - but those are half-day educational experiences that include an authentic meal from the period (sorry, no wine or cheese).
Brian Scott

Lorain, OH

#10 Aug 27, 2008
Mark,
The Niagara is already a tourist attraction. When in her berth, she can be accessed through the Erie Maritime Museum for multiple tours each day - and it only costs $6 to get into the museum (and is free with a Flagship Niagara League membership). Why dry dock her outside the convention center, when she is already nearby and available for tours? Why dry dock her when she can sail the bay, all of the great lakes, and be used as a very rare educational tool for sailors?
Queequeg

Erie, PA

#11 Aug 27, 2008
How about going after the money that went missing under the previous Flagship Niagara League Director?
Brian Scott

Lorain, OH

#12 Aug 27, 2008
Queequeg,
That's news to me. I believe that league has had financial troubles in the past, but I've never heard of any kind of fraud, which you seem to be describing. Why don't you share some specifics about what you know? Do you know for fact that a previous director somehow took money from the league? In any case (if it is in fact true) I would assume that the person described is no longer involved with the league. Or are you saying that the current supporters of the Niagara should give up the fight because of (potentially) one bad egg in the past?
Queequeg

Erie, PA

#14 Aug 27, 2008
Brian Scott wrote:
Queequeg,
That's news to me. I believe that league has had financial troubles in the past, but I've never heard of any kind of fraud, which you seem to be describing. Why don't you share some specifics about what you know? Do you know for fact that a previous director somehow took money from the league? In any case (if it is in fact true) I would assume that the person described is no longer involved with the league. Or are you saying that the current supporters of the Niagara should give up the fight because of (potentially) one bad egg in the past?
It's not news to people that had volunteered and/or contributed in the past.

There was malfeasance under the previous director, however, no legal action was taken to recover missing funds.

If an attempt is made to recover those funds, I will gladly write a check - but not until then.
Brian Scott

Lorain, OH

#15 Aug 27, 2008
Queequeg,
I can understand your frustration and disappointment, especially if you are a previous volunteer/donor and some fraud occured. But if there is a new director and new board - hopefully people that are restoring the luster of the Niagara - don't they deserve our support?
Obviously, you can donate your money wherever you like, but I for one would support the organization as long as it is well managed TODAY. Nobody can change the past. I will however, ask my contacts at the league about what you described and whether or not any legal action was taken to recover the funds. Perhaps something did occur, but it wasn't broadcast or highly publicized. Or perhaps, if there was some sort of fraud involved, there was not enough information available to effectively prosecute the person in question. All I know is that I personally wouldn't punish the current director, board - or more importantly the Niagara itself - for something that may have happened many years ago.
Queequeg

Erie, PA

#16 Aug 27, 2008
Brian Scott wrote:
Queequeg,
I can understand your frustration and disappointment, especially if you are a previous volunteer/donor and some fraud occured. But if there is a new director and new board - hopefully people that are restoring the luster of the Niagara - don't they deserve our support?
Obviously, you can donate your money wherever you like, but I for one would support the organization as long as it is well managed TODAY. Nobody can change the past. I will however, ask my contacts at the league about what you described and whether or not any legal action was taken to recover the funds. Perhaps something did occur, but it wasn't broadcast or highly publicized. Or perhaps, if there was some sort of fraud involved, there was not enough information available to effectively prosecute the person in question. All I know is that I personally wouldn't punish the current director, board - or more importantly the Niagara itself - for something that may have happened many years ago.
Friend,

Many current board members and other officials declined to pursue legal action against the person in question.
Therefore, they are partially to blame.

Here's a history lesson for ya mate:

NIAGARA LEAGUE MUST PAY $49,000 IN OVERDUE TAXES
Grimaldi could not be reached for comment.

NIAGARA LEAGUE $100,000 IN DEBT
Grimaldi could not be reached for comment.

BUT SOME BOARD MEMBERS WERE UPSET AT THEIR INABILITY TO GET DETAILED FINANCIAL RECORDS FROM THE LEAGUE'S DIRECTOR.
Grimaldi could not be reached for comment.

NIAGARA LEAGUE STOWS [FIRES]EXEC
Grimaldi could not be reached for comment.

FLAGSHIP NIAGARA LEAGUE LAYS OFF 3
Grimaldi could not be reached for comment.
Commodore Perry

Pittsburgh, PA

#17 Aug 28, 2008
I'm more concerned about my forgotten sailors from the real Brig Niagara who are buried in the mud in "Graveyard Pond" since the Winter of 1813-14. They died in Misery Bay from battle wounds, small pox, hunger and the weather. Why isn't this an officially designated military cemetery? Where's the Dept of Defense's Office of Recovery/Missing-in-Action?
Bo Peep

Lorain, OH

#18 Aug 28, 2008
The Niagara is like the license plates issued on her behalf to members of the league, both hard to see.
No-Nickel Jody

Pittsburgh, PA

#19 Aug 29, 2008
Use the Brig Niagara for burials at sea (lake) and charge a fee. I believe the Poseidon Society does sea burials.

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