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Why are all of the popular Democrats suddenly in trouble?

There are 34 comments on the Salon.com story from Sep 29, 2010, titled Why are all of the popular Democrats suddenly in trouble?. In it, Salon.com reports that:

For perfectly rational reasons, it's customary in political journalism to slap the adjective "popular" in front of the name of any officeholder who won his or her most recent election by a wide margin or who scores a high job approval rating .

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Shirley

Cordova, TN

#1 Sep 29, 2010
Its because BIG money is comming from every where, and the Democrats. I was reading that kOCH Industries Among Host at Carly Fiorina Fundraiser this past week-end. I also read Freedomworks Pac endorses conservative John Rases in W. Virginia.
There are millionares and Billionaries funding the Conservative to fight Regulations, Healthcare Reform,and Financial Reform. These are special Interest Lobbyist that want every thing to stay the same, but what funny is so does some Republican's.
Democrat's can't fight that kind of money, all they can do is encourage American's to vote in the midterm election. Its sad to know what some politicans will do to win. Joe Miller, Christine O'Donnell,Sharron Angle will joined Fiorina in California for a fundraiser this week-end.
But these candidates doesn't have a solution for American's economy crisis, all they are saying is the first thing i'm goning to do is repeal obamacare, like that will solved the crisis. I watch a Conservative say this is a group of unexperienced Candidates that the Tea Party is trying to elect into office. I said that correct.
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United States

#2 Sep 29, 2010
they need to get there resimes together i here wal mart is hiring greaters
Shady Lady

United States

#3 Sep 29, 2010
If you take a closer look you will see it isn't just the Democrats that are in trouble, it is incumbents, career politicians whatever party. Americans are disgusted with people who retire at more then most people earn in private life, and they do nothing. They promise, and blame others, fly around the country at our expense, and they are useless. Funs over. We are replacing them with citizen politicians, people who will work together for the good of the country, andnot for their own greed.

Since: Sep 10

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#4 Sep 29, 2010
Regardless of your party affiliation, do any of you agree with me that there should be term limits? Perhaps a max of two 4 year terms, like the President in limited to?

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#5 Sep 29, 2010
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Shady Lady

United States

#6 Sep 29, 2010
We have term limits. They are called elections. Vote out he incubents every 2 years.

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#7 Sep 30, 2010
I agree with you there.....
Mariah

AOL

#8 Oct 1, 2010
Shirley wrote:
Its because BIG money is comming from every where, and the Democrats. I was reading that kOCH Industries Among Host at Carly Fiorina Fundraiser this past week-end. I also read Freedomworks Pac endorses conservative John Rases in W. Virginia.
There are millionares and Billionaries funding the Conservative to fight Regulations, Healthcare Reform,and Financial Reform. These are special Interest Lobbyist that want every thing to stay the same, but what funny is so does some Republican's.
Democrat's can't fight that kind of money, all they can do is encourage American's to vote in the midterm election. Its sad to know what some politicans will do to win. Joe Miller, Christine O'Donnell,Sharron Angle will joined Fiorina in California for a fundraiser this week-end.
But these candidates doesn't have a solution for American's economy crisis, all they are saying is the first thing i'm goning to do is repeal obamacare, like that will solved the crisis. I watch a Conservative say this is a group of unexperienced Candidates that the Tea Party is trying to elect into office. I said that correct.
Wow, you got that right Shirley. Saw on news today that Fox gave Republicans another MILLION dollars. Angle, O'Donnell and Miller are crazy. Want to take away social security, take away medicaid and medicare. Rand paul in KY wants Seniors to pay a TWO THOUSAND DEDUCTIBLE on there Medicare. Old people can't afford that. They are crazy. They gripe about the National Debt but still want the Billionares to have there tax cut.But not middle class people.They talk a good game about the constitution, but ONLY for them and not the rest of us. I say NO republicans.
Shady Lady

United States

#9 Oct 1, 2010
No one can change Social Security, and Democrats know it. They lie to scare the old people in every election. They have no morals, and are just a bunch of drunks afraid they will lose their soft cozy job. All of them need to be voted out so we can start all over. The new legislators cannot be as corrupt as the ones we have now.
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#10 Oct 2, 2010
maybe cause there liberal scum
Brian

Charleston, WV

#11 Oct 3, 2010
You people need to quit being handout bums. Quit making excuses for your own failure in life and expecting everyone else(gov.) to take care of you. The most basic survival instinct is to feed yourself and your family, if you are on foodstamps for more than a year you should be ashamed of yourself. Its not free money, others had to work to earn that money so the IRS could take it and give it to you so you would vote Democrat. If the scammers and lazy people would get off handouts maybee they would actually get to the people that the programs were created to help. Rich people are not the reason you are poor, look yourself in the mirror and take some responsibility for the life decisions that you made. It is never too late to change your life. Our country is broke and we can not afford to take care of all of you anymore. This is why popular Democrats are in trouble this year. Think about how we are going to pay off 13.5 trillion dollars, the easy answer is "we can't" and "we won't."
one sided

Gassaway, WV

#12 Oct 10, 2010
only your point of view

Since: Apr 07

Fort Campbell, TN

#13 Oct 10, 2010
Mariah wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, you got that right Shirley. Saw on news today that Fox gave Republicans another MILLION dollars. Angle, O'Donnell and Miller are crazy. Want to take away social security, take away medicaid and medicare. Rand paul in KY wants Seniors to pay a TWO THOUSAND DEDUCTIBLE on there Medicare. Old people can't afford that. They are crazy. They gripe about the National Debt but still want the Billionares to have there tax cut.But not middle class people.They talk a good game about the constitution, but ONLY for them and not the rest of us. I say NO republicans.
No actually we want to protect our Social Security from the greedy Professional Politicians who keep stealing our money for their own personal purposes. That is OUR Social Security and it DOES NOT belong to the professional politicians. That is why we keep talking about privatizing our Social Security and electing a Board of Directors out of the members of Social Security who have paid into the Social Security Trust Fund.

Again this year we are not going to get our annual Cost of Living Increase to cover our added expenses while the Professional Politicians have voted to give themselves yet another hefty pay raise.

We have got to get OUR money out of the hands of the crooks who cannot be held responsible for their actions and put in in the capable hands of people who can be held accountable to US for their actions or the lack thereof in a court of law.

OUR Social Security is not a government freebie program. We have been paying our monthly premiums for the majority of our lives and YES we should expect to get exactly what ewe have been paying all of these years for. A livable income and 100% of our medical and dental paid for. Originally OUR Social Security was suppose to be a full benefits retirement insurance. Only when there was over 150 BILLION DOLLARS in OUR Social Security Trust Fund the Democrats decided to add OUR Social Security Trust Fund to the General Tax Fund so they could spend it any way they so chose and could NOT be held accountable for how they abused OUR Social Security Trust Fund.

That is OUR Social Security Trust and we must unite to protect it by demanding the Congress hand it over to a Board Of Directors who are answerable only to those of us who have paid into it.
Shady Lady

Paso Robles, CA

#14 Oct 11, 2010
This election is anti-Democrat. Even the good ones are being dumped to make sure we dump all of them. Even the good ones have voted with the corrupt ones so they have to go too.
Mariah

AOL

#15 Oct 11, 2010
It is the Republicans holding this country back. It is so clear. All we need to do is look. This bill created jobs and EVEN MS. Governor Haleigh Barbour, (R) Mississippi. praised the bill for creating 5,300 jobs in his state.REPUBLICANS SAID NO TO PUTTING AMERICANS BACK TO WORK AND THEY SAID YES TO FURTHERING THE ECONOMIC DESTRUCTION OF THIS GREAT NATION, BECAUSE THEY WANT OUR PRESIDENT TO FAIL. THEY ARE NO BETTER THAN TERRORISTS. NOW IT IS OUR TURN TO SAY NO TO REPUBLICANS, NO TO FOREIGNERS BUYING OUR DEMOCRACY, NO TO THOSE WHO WANT TO END THE MINIMUM WAGE, NO TO THOSE WHO WANT TO STEAL SOCIAL SECURITY, AND HELL NO TO VOTING FOR REPUBLICANS ON NOV. 2ND.
Mariah

AOL

#16 Oct 11, 2010
Key Votes:
S 3816

Issues: Budget, Spending and Taxes, Business and Consumers
Date: 09/28/2010
Sponsor: Sen. Durbin, Richard (D-IL)



Record Vote Number 242

Cloture Not Invoked
(Senate)
How members voted
(53 - 45)


State District Name Party Vote
AK Jr Sen. Mark Begich Democratic Y
AK Sr Sen. Lisa Murkowski Republican NV
AL Jr Sen. Jefferson Sessions III Republican N
AL Sr Sen. Richard Shelby Republican N
AR Jr Sen. Mark Pryor Democratic Y
AR Sr Sen. Blanche Lincoln Democratic NV
AZ Jr Sen. Jon Kyl Republican N
AZ Sr Sen. John McCain III Republican N
CA Jr Sen. Barbara Boxer Democratic Y
CA Sr Sen. Dianne Feinstein Democratic Y
CO Jr Sen. Michael Bennet Democratic Y
CO Sr Sen. Mark Udall Democratic Y
CT Jr Sen. Joseph Lieberman Independent Democrat N
CT Sr Sen. Christopher Dodd Democratic Y
DE Jr Sen. Edward Kaufman Democratic Y
DE Sr Sen. Thomas Carper Democratic Y
FL Jr Sen. George LeMieux Republican N
FL Sr Sen. Bill Nelson Sr. Democratic Y
GA Jr Sen. John Isakson Republican N
GA Sr Sen. Clarence Chambliss Republican N
HI Jr Sen. Daniel Akaka Sr. Democratic Y
HI Sr Sen. Daniel Inouye Democratic Y
IA Jr Sen. Thomas Harkin Democratic Y
IA Sr Sen. Charles Grassley Republican N
ID Jr Sen. James Risch
Mariah

AOL

#17 Oct 11, 2010
ID Sr Sen. Michael Crapo Republican N
IL Jr Sen. Roland Burris Democratic Y
IL Sr Sen. Richard Durbin Democratic Y
IN Jr Sen. Evan Bayh Democratic Y
IN Sr Sen. Richard Lugar Republican N
KS Jr Sen. Pat Roberts Republican N
KS Sr Sen. Samuel Brownback Republican N
KY Jr Sen. Jim Bunning Republican N
KY Sr Sen. Mitch McConnell Republican N
LA Jr Sen. David Vitter Republican N
LA Sr Sen. Mary Landrieu Democratic Y
MA Jr Sen. Scott Brown Republican N
MA Sr Sen. John Kerry Democratic Y
MD Jr Sen. Benjamin Cardin Democratic Y
MD Sr Sen. Barbara Mikulski Democratic Y
ME Jr Sen. Susan Collins Republican N
ME Sr Sen. Olympia Snowe Republican N
MI Jr Sen. Debbie Stabenow Democratic Y
MI Sr Sen. Carl Levin Democratic Y
MN Jr Sen. Al Franken Democratic/Farmer/Labor Y
MN Sr Sen. Amy Klobuchar Democratic/Farmer/Labor Y
MO Jr Sen. Claire McCaskill Democratic Y
MO Sr Sen. Christopher Bond Republican N
MS Jr Sen. Roger Wicker Republican N
MS Sr Sen. Thad Cochran Republican N
MT Jr Sen. Jon Tester Democratic N
MT Sr Sen. Max Baucus Democratic N
NC Jr Sen. Kay Hagan Democratic Y
NC Sr Sen. Richard Burr Republican N
ND Jr Sen. Byron Dorgan Democratic-NPL Y
ND Sr Sen. Kent Conrad Democratic-NPL Y
NE Jr Sen. Mike Johanns Republican N
NE Sr Sen. E. Benjamin Nelson Democratic N
NH Jr Sen. Jeanne Shaheen Democratic Y
NH Sr Sen. Judd Gregg Republican N
NJ Jr Sen. Robert Menendez Democratic Y
NJ Sr Sen. Frank Lautenberg Democratic Y
NM Jr Sen. Tom Udall Democratic Y
NM Sr Sen. Jeff Bingaman Democratic Y
NV Jr Sen. John Ensign Republican N
NV Sr Sen. Harry Reid Democratic Y
NY Jr Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand Democratic Y
NY Sr Sen. Charles Schumer Democratic Y
OH Jr Sen. Sherrod Brown Democratic Y
OH Sr Sen. George Voinovich Republican N
OK Jr Sen. Thomas Coburn Republican N
OK Sr Sen. James Inhofe Republican N
OR Jr Sen. Jeffery Merkley Democratic Y
OR Sr Sen. Ron Wyden Democratic Y
PA Jr Sen. Robert Casey Jr. Democratic Y
PA Sr Sen. Arlen Specter Democratic Y
RI Jr Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse Democratic Y
RI Sr Sen. John Reed Democratic Y
SC Jr Sen. Jim DeMint Republican N
SC Sr Sen. Lindsey Graham Republican N
SD Jr Sen. John Thune Republican N
SD Sr Sen. Tim Johnson Democratic Y
TN Jr Sen. Bob Corker Republican N
TN Sr Sen. Lamar Alexander Republican N
TX Jr Sen. John Cornyn Republican N
TX Sr Sen. Kay Hutchison Republican N
UT Jr Sen. Robert Bennett Republican N
UT Sr Sen. Orrin Hatch Republican N
VA Jr Sen. Mark Warner Democratic N
VA Sr Sen. James Webb Jr. Democratic Y
VT Jr Sen. Bernard Sanders Independent Y
VT Sr Sen. Patrick Leahy Democratic Y
WA Jr Sen. Maria Cantwell Democratic Y
WA Sr Sen. Patty Murray Democratic Y
WI Jr Sen. Russell Feingold Democratic Y
WI Sr Sen. Herbert Kohl Democratic Y
WV Jr Sen. Carte Goodwin Democratic Y
WV Sr Sen. John Rockefeller IV Democratic Y
WY Jr Sen. John Barrasso Republican N
WY Sr Sen. Michael Enzi Republican N

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Mariah

AOL

#18 Oct 11, 2010
With Extension Blocked By Republicans, A Successful Stimulus Jobs Program Dies
October 01, 2010 10:00 AM

Legislation can be a positive, creative process when politicians work together for the common good.(I know, you can stop laughing now.) I wish that Republican legislators used their influence for something useful, instead of posturing and saying no to programs they already know work. Hell, even Haley Barbour likes it!

At midnight on Sept. 30, the TANF Emergency Contingency Fund (TEF)- considered one of the most successful stimulus programs, having created 250,000 jobs for previously unemployed workers - expires. The Obama administration and Democrats had requested $1.5 to $2.5 billion to keep it going for another year. The House has passed two extenders, but yesterday, legislation failed again in the Senate. That means employers are now faced with laying off the TEF workers, as many as 100,000, into an economy that already has 14.9 million unemployed.

"Without federal funding, most states and localities won't be able to continue to provide support for these jobs," Larry Summers, the director of the White House's National Economic Council, said in a statement today. "Governors from both parties have called for the extension of the program and some will try to keep it going for a couple of months with state funds, buying Congress time to act. But the reality is that many states will be unable to fill the gap, and those that can, only temporarily. A commitment to extending this program will give more governors the confidence not to end it now and could save up to 100,000 jobs."

The program did not need to end in this way. Senate Democrats tried numerous times to extend the legislation - in provisions moved in March and blocked by Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), and in versions of the tax extenders legislation. This week, Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) tried to move a three-month extension, to give Democrats some time to work a fuller fix for the program into another bill. Sen. Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.) objected to Durbin's unanimous consent request, killing it on the grounds that it expands the welfare state and costs too much.

TEF's end has led to howls from progressive think-tanks, Republican and Democratic governors and the thousands of businesses and hundreds of thousands of workers the program has aided.

The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, for instance, looked at the programs states created - 36 of them, plus a program in Washington D.C.- and summarized their achievements. One county in Tennessee brought its unemployment rate from 27.3 to 18.6 percent in just eight months. North Dakota helped create jobs for parents without the means to pay their child support. South Carolina targeted parents who would otherwise collect welfare. Alabama aided job-sapped rural areas. CBPP's analysts described ending the fund as "walking away from a win-win-win."

Congress could attempt to recreate or reauthorize the program later, though Congressional aides say that chances are slim. That leaves states to try to fund their own programs, despite the fact that many are facing yawning fiscal gaps and service cutbacks.

Related Topics: alabama, democrat, unemployment, obama

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Since: Apr 07

Fort Campbell, TN

#19 Oct 12, 2010
Mariah wrote:
It is the Republicans holding this country back. It is so clear. All we need to do is look. This bill created jobs and EVEN MS. Governor Haleigh Barbour,(R) Mississippi. praised the bill for creating 5,300 jobs in his state.REPUBLICANS SAID NO TO PUTTING AMERICANS BACK TO WORK AND THEY SAID YES TO FURTHERING THE ECONOMIC DESTRUCTION OF THIS GREAT NATION, BECAUSE THEY WANT OUR PRESIDENT TO FAIL. THEY ARE NO BETTER THAN TERRORISTS. NOW IT IS OUR TURN TO SAY NO TO REPUBLICANS, NO TO FOREIGNERS BUYING OUR DEMOCRACY, NO TO THOSE WHO WANT TO END THE MINIMUM WAGE, NO TO THOSE WHO WANT TO STEAL SOCIAL SECURITY, AND HELL NO TO VOTING FOR REPUBLICANS ON NOV. 2ND.
Ok let me see if I got you right.

Carter introduced the Community Reinvestment Act. The Community Reinvestment Act forces banks and other lending institutions to give our very high priced loans to individuals living on Welfare. Predominantly POOR BLACKS. Well for years the banks and other lending institutions refused to give out loans to individuals they knew could NOT repay them. That is until Bill Clinton came along and added the Community Reinvestment Act Rating to it and Barry Seotoro AKA Barack Obama using the CRA took CitiBank to court and thus forcing the banks and lending institutions to hand out loans to poor unemployed BLACKS. When that did not work Barry Seotoro trained ACORN employees how to use the CRA to force banks into giving out loans to unemployed BLACKS. If a bank failed to give a loan to an unemployed Black person ACORN would descend upon that bank with a vengeance and protest until the bank gave that unemployed BLACK person living on Welfare the loan. Then when the unemployed BLACK person living on Welfare was unable to make his or her monthly payments. NOT TO WORRY. Either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would purchase that bad debt and sell it to investors in the form of bundles. Then when the investors were unable to make a profit from the bundles they purchased from Fanny and Freddie they stopped buying them. This was when the problems with the CRA and free housing for the unemployed BLACKS living on Welfare first became noticeable in 2001.

Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown


How the Democrats betrayed America
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

So now we have it. It was the Democrats who created the failure of our economy using the Community Reinvestment Act. And now the Democrats are pushing to give poor BLOCK $175,000.00 homes for FREE at your expense and you claim the Republicans are terrorists?

I put it to you this way.

The DEMOCRATS have betrayed us and are TRAITORS. The DEMOCRATS are the TERRORISTS. 2 year in a row and no Cost of Living Increase or our seniors and our Military and yes the DEMOCRATS see fit to give themselves a hefty pay increase.

The only answer is to VOTE the DEMOCRATS TRAITORS out of office.

Since: Apr 07

Fort Campbell, TN

#20 Oct 12, 2010
Mariah wrote:
ID Sr Sen. Michael Crapo Republican N
IL Jr Sen. Roland Burris Democratic Y
IL Sr Sen. Richard Durbin Democratic Y
IN Jr Sen. Evan Bayh Democratic Y
IN Sr Sen. Richard Lugar Republican N
KS Jr Sen. Pat Roberts Republican N
KS Sr Sen. Samuel Brownback Republican N
KY Jr Sen. Jim Bunning Republican N
KY Sr Sen. Mitch McConnell Republican N
LA Jr Sen. David Vitter Republican N
LA Sr Sen. Mary Landrieu Democratic Y
MA Jr Sen. Scott Brown Republican N
MA Sr Sen. John Kerry Democratic Y
MD Jr Sen. Benjamin Cardin Democratic Y
MD Sr Sen. Barbara Mikulski Democratic Y
ME Jr Sen. Susan Collins Republican N
ME Sr Sen. Olympia Snowe Republican N
MI Jr Sen. Debbie Stabenow Democratic Y
MI Sr Sen. Carl Levin Democratic Y
MN Jr Sen. Al Franken Democratic/Farmer/Labor Y
MN Sr Sen. Amy Klobuchar Democratic/Farmer/Labor Y
MO Jr Sen. Claire McCaskill Democratic Y
MO Sr Sen. Christopher Bond Republican N
MS Jr Sen. Roger Wicker Republican N
MS Sr Sen. Thad Cochran Republican N
MT Jr Sen. Jon Tester Democratic N
MT Sr Sen. Max Baucus Democratic N
NC Jr Sen. Kay Hagan Democratic Y
NC Sr Sen. Richard Burr Republican N
ND Jr Sen. Byron Dorgan Democratic-NPL Y
ND Sr Sen. Kent Conrad Democratic-NPL Y
NE Jr Sen. Mike Johanns Republican N
NE Sr Sen. E. Benjamin Nelson Democratic N
NH Jr Sen. Jeanne Shaheen Democratic Y
NH Sr Sen. Judd Gregg Republican N
NJ Jr Sen. Robert Menendez Democratic Y
NJ Sr Sen. Frank Lautenberg Democratic Y
NM Jr Sen. Tom Udall Democratic Y
NM Sr Sen. Jeff Bingaman Democratic Y
NV Jr Sen. John Ensign Republican N
NV Sr Sen. Harry Reid Democratic Y
NY Jr Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand Democratic Y
NY Sr Sen. Charles Schumer Democratic Y
OH Jr Sen. Sherrod Brown Democratic Y
OH Sr Sen. George Voinovich Republican N
OK Jr Sen. Thomas Coburn Republican N
OK Sr Sen. James Inhofe Republican N
OR Jr Sen. Jeffery Merkley Democratic Y
OR Sr Sen. Ron Wyden Democratic Y
PA Jr Sen. Robert Casey Jr. Democratic Y
PA Sr Sen. Arlen Specter Democratic Y
RI Jr Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse Democratic Y
RI Sr Sen. John Reed Democratic Y
SC Jr Sen. Jim DeMint Republican N
SC Sr Sen. Lindsey Graham Republican N
SD Jr Sen. John Thune Republican N
SD Sr Sen. Tim Johnson Democratic Y
TN Jr Sen. Bob Corker Republican N
TN Sr Sen. Lamar Alexander Republican N
TX Jr Sen. John Cornyn Republican N
TX Sr Sen. Kay Hutchison Republican N
UT Jr Sen. Robert Bennett Republican N
UT Sr Sen. Orrin Hatch Republican N
VA Jr Sen. Mark Warner Democratic N
VA Sr Sen. James Webb Jr. Democratic Y
VT Jr Sen. Bernard Sanders Independent Y
VT Sr Sen. Patrick Leahy Democratic Y
WA Jr Sen. Maria Cantwell Democratic Y
WA Sr Sen. Patty Murray Democratic Y
WI Jr Sen. Russell Feingold Democratic Y
WI Sr Sen. Herbert Kohl Democratic Y
WV Jr Sen. Carte Goodwin Democratic Y
WV Sr Sen. John Rockefeller IV Democratic Y
WY Jr Sen. John Barrasso Republican N
WY Sr Sen. Michael Enzi Republican N
Vote Key
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NV
PY
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Hey Mariah has it ever accrued to you that by excessively taxing our employers that we are in fact cutting our own throats? Most small to moderate business have a gross income of over $250,000.00. Those are the companies who employ the majority of our work force. They are also the companies that operate on a 30% profit margin. What that means is after taxes, wages, salaries, supplies and other business expenses like employee unemployment insurance and health benefits the company ends up at the end of the year just barely breaking even in a good year. Because of the Democrat TRAITORS we are in a depression and those companies are having to lay their employees off just to break even and you feel we should be taxing them even more?

How many MORE American have to loose their jobs before you are willing to accept the fact that excessive taxation during a depression costs people their jobs and only worsens the already bad depression?

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