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Drinking with parents: New bill targets Wisconsin law allowing minors to drink

There are 58 comments on the Fox6 story from Aug 19, 2009, titled Drinking with parents: New bill targets Wisconsin law allowing minors to drink. In it, Fox6 reports that:

Children could no longer belly up to the bar in Wisconsin under a bill that supporters said Wednesday would go a long way toward reversing what they say is the state's high tolerance for binge drinking.

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michele k

Santa Barbara, CA

#1 Aug 20, 2009
I think this is ridiculous. just another right the government is taking away from us. Most parents are resposible with their children.
anonymous

Milwaukee, WI

#2 Aug 20, 2009
I was just thinking about this, I want the law to change to no child under the age of 21 years of age may drink and if they do at home or anywhere the parents are charged if they were the ones who provided the alchol. My exhusband is an alchohalic so is the stepmom and he let our daughter drink at a Brewers game and it worries me that he and his wife let her drink anytime. she was only 15 years old at the time. I found out as she begged me to buy her a hard lemonaide at a festival and when I said no she replied her dad bought her drinks at the breweres game. It worries me that she will become an alchohalic. He infact was in the paper about going to bed drunk and suffoctaing his baby. and ordered by the judge to go to AA meetings he never followed through. He is also in alot of other trouble with the law but always gets away with it and still is getting away with things. He has a bench warrent out and his drivers lisence occupational and regular is revoked. IT IS DANGEROUS TO LET KIDS UNDER AGE DRINK WITH IRRESPONSIBLE PARENTS!!! AND WITH PARENTS THAT DO NOT OBEY THE LAW AND WHO ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES, AND WHO NEVER GREW UP THEMSELVES!!! I CAN NOT BELEIVE THAT THIS ARTICLE WAS IN THE NEWS TODAY AS I WAS JUST THINKING THAT NO CHILD SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DRINK UNDER THE AGE.
Joe

Kenosha, WI

#3 Aug 20, 2009
This is no fair to the parents that feel they want to teach, and I emphisize the word teach, their kids how to responsibly drink when they feel the kid is ready to handle the responsibilities that goes with drinking. This is just another way that the legislatures are trying to limit and/or elimiate the rights of certain groups of people, case in point, the smoking ban that goes into effect in July, and the tax increases on cigarettes.
JGleason

Broomall, PA

#4 Aug 20, 2009
anonymous wrote:
I was just thinking about this, I want the law to change to no child under the age of 21 years of age may drink and if they do at home or anywhere the parents are charged if they were the ones who provided the alchol. My exhusband is an alchohalic so is the stepmom and he let our daughter drink at a Brewers game and it worries me that he and his wife let her drink anytime. she was only 15 years old at the time. I found out as she begged me to buy her a hard lemonaide at a festival and when I said no she replied her dad bought her drinks at the breweres game. It worries me that she will become an alchohalic. He infact was in the paper about going to bed drunk and suffoctaing his baby. and ordered by the judge to go to AA meetings he never followed through. He is also in alot of other trouble with the law but always gets away with it and still is getting away with things. He has a bench warrent out and his drivers lisence occupational and regular is revoked. IT IS DANGEROUS TO LET KIDS UNDER AGE DRINK WITH IRRESPONSIBLE PARENTS!!! AND WITH PARENTS THAT DO NOT OBEY THE LAW AND WHO ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES, AND WHO NEVER GREW UP THEMSELVES!!! I CAN NOT BELEIVE THAT THIS ARTICLE WAS IN THE NEWS TODAY AS I WAS JUST THINKING THAT NO CHILD SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DRINK UNDER THE AGE.
AAAAHHHhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Can we say Bipolar?
JGleason

Broomall, PA

#5 Aug 20, 2009
Joe wrote:
This is no fair to the parents that feel they want to teach, and I emphisize the word teach, their kids how to responsibly drink when they feel the kid is ready to handle the responsibilities that goes with drinking. This is just another way that the legislatures are trying to limit and/or elimiate the rights of certain groups of people, case in point, the smoking ban that goes into effect in July, and the tax increases on cigarettes.
You got that right! In America we can have round abouts and socialized health care just like in Europe, but we can not let our children drink alcohol like they do in Europe, that just wouldn't be right.

More government, more government, more government, more communism, more communism....I can here the music from The Twilight zone already.

The funniest part of all is the people who want to change these laws probably do not even have kids and if they do I am sure those kids drink and party like every other kid.
matt

Rochester, MN

#6 Aug 20, 2009
I notice that you are not even from wisconsin this i believe gives me the reason to tell you to not ever post something like this again because you are basing everything you have off a screwed up family relationship most parents are responsible with their children if you would happen to be here to witness it you might know that!!
Jason

Orange, CA

#7 Aug 20, 2009
I'm from the old school train of thought that says "old enough to die for our country, old enough to have a beer when you get home". 18 is a good age limit, though I question how many 18-20 year olds would want to hang out at a bar with their parents.
I do, however, agree that the DUI laws need to be changed to make it a crime the first time.
Jason

Orange, CA

#8 Aug 20, 2009
michele k wrote:
I think this is ridiculous. just another right the government is taking away from us. Most parents are resposible with their children.
If you are allowing your underage child to consume alcohol, no, you aren't being a responsible caregiver for your children in any way. In fact, that is probably one of the most irresponsible things you can do. Their bodies cannot process alcohol the same way an adult's can, so the law very well should be 18.
Juanita

Frankfort, KY

#9 Aug 20, 2009
I feel that the age to be an adult should be universal...we have such different standards,.we pick our standards depending upon what we want to achieve.
We say the age to marry is one thing, to die for your country is another, the age to drink is another and yet another is the age you can be charges as an adult for a crime. There should be one age in which someone can make decisions as and adult. Pick an age and stick to it. We either grant positives or negatives based on what we think we want as a society at the time. I think we need to decide..what age it is that we consider and adult..and stick to it
Amanda

Saint Ignatius, MT

#10 Aug 20, 2009
Montana has no drinking under 21 as well as stiff DUI laws yet it is one of the highest DUI states in the country.#2 I think. The answer is teaching responsibility in all things (not just drinking) at an early age. Let children work. It never hurt to have an eight or ten year old pack groceries to the car for someone. It hurts the child to not let them learn to handle responsibility. Children should learn to drink with their parents in their home. Like they do in Europe. The age over there is 16 and they don't have the DUI problem we have. Much more is expected of them at an earlier age. They need to know whether they will go to college by the time they are in 8th grade. If they don'
t go to college they go to a vo-tech school in 9th grade! Now kids don't have to even go if they don't want to.
liltnt007

Jonesville, SC

#11 Aug 20, 2009
I do believe if an 18 year old is adult enough to serve their country. And, DIE for their country. Then they should be adult enough to drink without a parents permission or anyone elses!
Sober --- tonight

Oak Lawn, IL

#12 Aug 20, 2009
Show your kids responsibility by letting them get drunk with you - yeah that'll learn 'em real good!
And somehow this is related to a National health plan, huh?
Want to bet the next poster says something like, "Welcome to life under Obama's National Socialist Workers' Party?"
Vicki

Oklahoma City, OK

#13 Aug 20, 2009
I don't think it is okay for someone under 21 to drink, unless they are ACTIVE DUTY in the military. If they can go die for this God forsaken country then they should be able to have a drink.
mgh

Stevens Point, WI

#14 Aug 20, 2009
I am relieved to know that I have 5 chances to kill someone before I am charged with a felony. Thank you Wisconsin.
teacher

Sun Prairie, WI

#15 Aug 20, 2009
I was taught to drink responsibly by my parents. This was in a dry county in a southern state. My parents told me that if I wanted to try something they would buy it for me but I had to promise them that I would not drink at parties or to drink and drive. They also said that if I ever made the mistake and drank at a party, they would come and get me that night, no questions asked but that we would discuss it the next morning. I knew what that meant.

I did ask them to try a few things when I was in high school and true to his word, my dad bought what I wanted and tried it with me. Turns out I didn't really care for hard liquor and it took until my late 20s to acquire a taste for wine and some beer. My folks drank rarely but liquor was in our home. Nothing was taboo. Once in a while we had wine with dinner and I had a small glass. I think this is the reason I never went wild in high school or college. I just have never seen the need to get drunk. Two boys in my class died in high school (DUI) and my parents took me out to see the car. That was also a sobering experience.

I think parents should be responsible in their own drinking and then teach their children to be the same way. Driving a car is a great responsibility and should never be mixed with alcohol. I got that message loud and clear from my folks.

I guess it basically comes down to whether or not you believe that parents will take the responsibility to teach their kids how to be handle themselves. In Wisconsin, we have a problem with alcohol abuse. Are our parents teaching responsibility or passing along the wrong messages?
Jimmy J

Bristow, VA

#16 Aug 20, 2009
One of the major causes of binge drinking in the US is that teens are not exposed to responsible drinking. In Europe which has lower age limits, most teens start drinking a glass of wine or a beer at home with their parents, and in resturants and other places. By the time they are "adults" it has lost most of the exotic appeal.
Linda

Waterford, WI

#17 Aug 20, 2009
I'm tired of hearing about how responsible European teens are because they've been exposed to alcohol consumption at an earlier age. Not true. Teenage drinking, especially binge drinking, is a huge problem in Europe, too. Read the news, people.
Awesome

Waukesha, WI

#18 Aug 20, 2009
"Wisconsin is the only state where a first-time drunken-driving arrest is treated like a traffic citation and not a crime. Roadside police checkpoints to find drunken drivers are illegal. Drunken driving isn't a felony until the fifth offense."

I have a cousin who has been arrested three times before he was 21 for DWI or for having an open container in a vehicle, and all three were lowered to tickets for disorderly conduct.

How about we work on that, rather than working on getting kids banned from drinking with their parents? How often does that really happen, anyway, that it actually becomes an issue? Like the article says, it's at the bartender's discretion whether to serve the kid or not. If you're against it, say no.
Joe

Cornell, IL

#19 Aug 20, 2009
What a joke, Kids are exposed to 30 commercials during a sporting event, and they portray the Cool kids at a party with the (insert brand here)...They attend D.A.R.E and see the same joker cops at the ballgame sucking on the brewski.....
Why is it Tom Farley, the brother of comedian Chris Farley who was what, snorting coke and assorted drugs along with the alcohol during a binge, mention the fact his brother was an addict as well as an alcoholic?

How about stupid people who have no real jobs because their addict brother O.D'd and they needed a job so they created a foundation be banned from Wisconsin instead?
Hello

Ulysses, KS

#20 Aug 20, 2009
Hell, why not all you Wisconsin guys let your kids smoke cigs at a young age? I'm sure smoking properly and moderately is a good deal, just like drinking, right? You're a bunch of idiots. Letting kids drink before the allowed law for the majority of the country is just stupid. This law will change, and you will accept it, or your ass will be thrown in jail. That's all there is to it. So suck it.

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