Long time actor and former NRA president, Charlton Heston has died

April, 6, 2008 2:00 p.m. HOLLYWOOD, Cal. Beloved and revered actor and controversial four term NRA president, Charlton Heston died Saturday.

[Sence]

Just because they are our founding fathers does not mean they are correct on all matters. Society grows and matures like any single person. Right now society wants to break its violence addictions but our thoughts and behavior need to change. Every person is an extension of ourselves so when one person commits an act of violence it is an act of violence toward every person. When a person purchases a tool of violence they are purchasing part of the problem. Every 'bad' person that may use a gun to commit violence is most likely a victim of violence themselves maybe not direct violence. When someone is sold a product like alcohol, fire arms, cigarettes, illegal drugs or ect. it is a act of violence toward that person and society. In return for this purchase that person will hurt us all in the form of a lung cancer patient that drains medical resources, a drunk driver that kills your family in a head on collision, a drug addicted son or daughter who does any number of criminal activities to supply their (our) addiction. So for every person who purchase a gun to shot a target how many other people must die in a violent act for that activity?

If you say you buy a gun to shoot a target I say to you to buy a basketball and shoot a hoop.

If you want a gun for protection then a tazer and mace will do the job.

I say to dissolve all militaries worldwide.

Militaries are cults with guns. Shave your head, wear the same clothes, lose your identity and kill or be killed to defend this ideology. Sounds like a cult to me.

Flags are false idols and the Ten Commandments says not to worship false idols.

Flags are false idols with nuclear weapons.

When an object has ideology it becomes a false idol.

Beware.

[newanarchy]

Sence wrote:

Just because they are our founding fathers does not mean they are correct on all matters. Society grows and matures like any single person. Right now society wants to break its violence addictions but our thoughts and behavior need to change. Every person is an extension of ourselves so when one person commits an act of violence it is an act of violence toward every person. When a person purchases a tool of violence they are purchasing part of the problem. Every 'bad' person that may use a gun to commit violence is most likely a victim of violence themselves maybe not direct violence. When someone is sold a product like alcohol, fire arms, cigarettes, illegal drugs or ect. it is a act of violence toward that person and society. In return for this purchase that person will hurt us all in the form of a lung cancer patient that drains medical resources, a drunk driver that kills your family in a head on collision, a drug addicted son or daughter who does any number of criminal activities to supply their (our) addiction. So for every person who purchase a gun to shot a target how many other people must die in a violent act for that activity?
If you say you buy a gun to shoot a target I say to you to buy a basketball and shoot a hoop.
If you want a gun for protection then a tazer and mace will do the job.
I say to dissolve all militaries worldwide.
Militaries are cults with guns. Shave your head, wear the same clothes, lose your identity and kill or be killed to defend this ideology. Sounds like a cult to me.
Flags are false idols and the Ten Commandments says not to worship false idols.
Flags are false idols with nuclear weapons.
When an object has ideology it becomes a false idol.
Beware.

IDIOT #2 "If you want a gun for protection then a tazer and mace will do the job". Not if the criminal has a gun, sorry I won't take chances of the intruder in my house being an anti gun advocate. Break into my house and die a bloody death, it's as simple as that. For your own safety, don't break in, period.

[chosen one]

Secne You pansy wimp Idiot # 2. (Newanarchy is right) I am sorry the day may come when we might have to protect your sorry butt. After reading your comment I can go along with natures law of thinning of the herd.

[feedup]

Sence wrote:

Just because they are our founding fathers does not mean they are correct on all matters. Society grows and matures like any single person. Right now society wants to break its violence addictions but our thoughts and behavior need to change. Every person is an extension of ourselves so when one person commits an act of violence it is an act of violence toward every person. When a person purchases a tool of violence they are purchasing part of the problem. Every 'bad' person that may use a gun to commit violence is most likely a victim of violence themselves maybe not direct violence. When someone is sold a product like alcohol, fire arms, cigarettes, illegal drugs or ect. it is a act of violence toward that person and society. In return for this purchase that person will hurt us all in the form of a lung cancer patient that drains medical resources, a drunk driver that kills your family in a head on collision, a drug addicted son or daughter who does any number of criminal activities to supply their (our) addiction. So for every person who purchase a gun to shot a target how many other people must die in a violent act for that activity?
If you say you buy a gun to shoot a target I say to you to buy a basketball and shoot a hoop.
If you want a gun for protection then a tazer and mace will do the job.
I say to dissolve all militaries worldwide.
Militaries are cults with guns. Shave your head, wear the same clothes, lose your identity and kill or be killed to defend this ideology. Sounds like a cult to me.
Flags are false idols and the Ten Commandments says not to worship false idols.
Flags are false idols with nuclear weapons.
When an object has ideology it becomes a false idol.
Beware.

You keep posting the same thing over and over, So here I go.

Ok I have posted this many a time as of yet no anti-gun has answered with any intelligent response.

So how is my owning a gun going to affect you?

What is the problem?

90 percent of all people that I know own a gun.

It is the ignorance of guns that is the problem.

It is the gun in a stupid ignorant persons hand that is the problem.

It is the people that are scared of guns that are the problem.

The gun is not the problem if you know how to use it safely.

A gun is no more harmful than a knife, club, rake, shovel, bow & arrow or any other idem that you can use to harm someone.

Yes, guns can be used to cause harm BUT no more than a vehicle, and both are tools that you should know how to use. And yet we allow people that cannot drive on the streets.

Come on how can one attribute violence to gun ownership?

Come on how can one attribute robbery to gun ownership?

Come on how can one attribute rape to gun ownership?

Come on how can one attribute home invasion to gun ownership?

Come on how can one attribute kidnapping to gun ownership?

If you do attribute any of the above to gun ownership then without guns, there would be no crime what so ever?

Without doctors, there would be no sickness.

Without cemeteries, there would be no death.

The logic behind the anti gun movement is illogical. To ban a gun is to open the way for all that would harm us. Some will go through life and never have to resort to the use of a gun (matter of fact most will not) but if you ever need it, you should be able to use it. Others may need the gun more times, than they would like, but at least with the gun they get the second chance.

Can you show a direct correlation between me owning a gun and crime?

Again how is my owning a gun going to affect you?

[ghost]

newanarchy wrote:

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And who told you this? The men who wrote your fairy tale book called the bible, what a joke.

Who told me ye do not know!

[Seasoned Citizen]

Concerning God, lets consider and ponder...

God would have all men be saved, and he provided a way for this to be so by sending his Precious Son, Jesus Christ, to live the perfect life which we sinful beings could not live on our own. We humans have nothing to do with our salvation whatsoever, and that means NOTHING. Jesus (God incarnate) did it all, and gave that gift of salvation and eternal life to us. Thank you Lord for your amazing grace!

Yes, God would have all men be saved, but many will perish because of their rejection of the Gift.

[Seasoned Citizen]

newanarchy wrote:

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Do you believe in Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny too? Makes as much sense as what your spouting right now. Because you believe your little superstitious mythology doesn't make it real.

Neighbor,
I just wanted to make sure you have heard the Word. I've done my duty.

[newanarchy]

Seasoned Citizen wrote:

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Neighbor,
I just wanted to make sure you have heard the Word. I've done my duty.

I've heard, just not buying. Rest easy you did your job.

[WTuknow]

So I reply to an idiot.

feedup wrote:

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You keep posting the same thing over and over, So here I go.
Ok I have posted this many a time as of yet no anti-gun has answered with any intelligent response.
So how is my owning a gun going to affect you?

A: When it is stolen and used by a criminal.

What is the problem?
90 percent of all people that I know own a gun.

You must know a sick bunch of fascists, because NOBODY I know owns a agun. Since the people I know are college grads, I guess education plays into it.

It is the ignorance of guns that is the problem.
It is the gun in a stupid ignorant persons hand that is the problem.
It is the people that are scared of guns that are the problem.
The gun is not the problem if you know how to use it safely.A gun is no more harmful than a knife, club, rake, shovel, bow & arrow or any other idem that you can use to harm someone.
We're talking guns here, try to focus dumbazz.

Yes, guns can be used to cause harm BUT no more than a vehicle, and both are tools that you should know how to use. And yet we allow people that cannot drive on the streets.
Come on how can one attribute violence to gun ownership?
Your children can kill their friends accidentally, it can be stolen and used on me, you can mistake a family member as a prowler and shoot them yourself. I can go on, and on, and on...

Come on how can one attribute robbery to gun ownership?
Come on how can one attribute rape to gun ownership?
Come on how can one attribute home invasion to gun ownership?
Come on how can one attribute kidnapping to gun ownership?
Nobody has.

If you do attribute any of the above to gun ownership then without guns, there would be no crime what so ever?
Without doctors, there would be no sickness.
Without cemeteries, there would be no death.
The logic behind the anti gun movement is illogical. To ban a gun is to open the way for all that would harm us. Some will go through life and never have to resort to the use of a gun (matter of fact most will not) but if you ever need it, you should be able to use it. Others may need the gun more times, than they would like, but at least with the gun they get the second chance.
Can you show a direct correlation between me owning a gun and crime?
Again how is my owning a gun going to affect you?

Heston would be so proud of you right now.

[feedup]

WTuknow wrote:

So I reply to an idiot.
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Heston would be so proud of you right now.

Do you have anything of importance to say?
Or are you here to spew stupidity?

Why don’t you try and answer the questions. If not keep to yourself.

[Jack Burton]

newanarchy wrote:

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I've heard, just not buying. Rest easy you did your job.

Not buying ~yet~.

But when the Blue Light Specical is off and you're standing in front of the Big Guy on Judgement Day you'll be crying for another five minutes to get into the correct line.

Unfortuanatly for you...

[newanarchy]

Jack Burton wrote:

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Not buying ~yet~.
But when the Blue Light Specical is off and you're standing in front of the Big Guy on Judgement Day you'll be crying for another five minutes to get into the correct line.
Unfortuanatly for you...

You have no idea how silly you sound to me, glad you have fantasies to help you sleep at night, glad I personally don't need them.

[Jack Burton]

newanarchy wrote:

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You have no idea how silly you sound to me, glad you have fantasies to help you sleep at night, glad I personally don't need them.

For now...

:-)

[Bob2bob]

GunShowOnTheNet wrote:

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How about you try to MAKE ME "insert my head" punk? Conversely, it is YOU that actually has their head up their own rear-end. A sad FACT that will become painfully clear to you soon enough, unless you repent that is....

http://gunshowonthenet.com/AfterTheFact/Liber...
"And they are not friends of liberty, but promoters of licentiousness, tyranny, and oppression, who contend, that every man ought to have an unlimited exercise of his own rights, without any regard to the rights of others. I can have no right to injure the rights of another; and if I claim this, I am a tyrant and oppressor."
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What about the God-given, natural right of The People of Washington D.C to keep lethal weapons off their streets? Are you a tyrant?

[Dontraveous]

Bob2bob wrote:

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http://gunshowonthenet.com/AfterTheFact/Liber...
"And they are not friends of liberty, but promoters of licentiousness, tyranny, and oppression, who contend, that every man ought to have an unlimited exercise of his own rights, without any regard to the rights of others. I can have no right to injure the rights of another; and if I claim this, I am a tyrant and oppressor."
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What about the God-given, natural right of The People of Washington D.C to keep lethal weapons off their streets? Are you a tyrant?

What are you, some kind of tard or should I say develpomentally challenged liberal? You have posted this same nonsensical post numerous times on several discussion boards. To what avail?

[Bob2bob]

Dontraveous wrote:

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What are you, some kind of tard or should I say develpomentally challenged liberal? You have posted this same nonsensical post numerous times on several discussion boards. To what avail?

What about the God-given, natural right of The People of Washington D.C to keep lethal weapons off their streets? Are YOU a tyrant too?

[Dontraveous]

Bob2bob wrote:

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What about the God-given, natural right of The People of Washington D.C to keep lethal weapons off their streets? Are YOU a tyrant too?

What about the God-given, natural right of The People of the world to keep idiots off the internet? Are YOU a tyrant too?

[GunShowOnTheNet]

newanarchy wrote:

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OOOH I'm so scared. What are you 12 years old? You sure act like it.

Get back under your bed and shiver by yourself punk.

[GunShowOnTheNet]

Bob2bob wrote:

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What about the God-given, natural right of The People of Washington D.C to keep lethal weapons off their streets? Are YOU a tyrant too?

"...Self defence is a primary law of nature, which no subsequent law of society can abolish; this primæval principle, the immediate gift of the Creator, obliges every one to remonstrate against the strides of ambition, and a wanton lust of domination, and to resist the first approaches of tyranny, which at this day threaten to sweep away the rights for which the brave sons of America have fought with an heroism scarcely paralleled even in ancient republicks...."

- Elbridge Gerry, Observations On the new Constitution, and on the Federal and State Conventions. By a Columbian Patriot. Sic transit gloria Americana.[Boston: 1788.]
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/PamphletsC...

[Ron]

Another gun-crazy idiot who "raped" the second amendment to suit what HE believed.(I.E., forgetting the part about a "well-regulated militia" - the police and military). Glad he's gone; wish he'd taken all the creepazoids at the Nat. Rifle A-holes with him!