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Tough Love

Providence, RI

#1 May 26, 2013
OK, so I've been a long-time Bon Jovi fan, not simply a JBJ fan, but a fan of the band...all of them.

Here's my take on Richie's nonsense (and, IMHO) it's all nonsense. Richie has not performed well in the past three years (especially the MTV debacle)and beyond that if Jon's kept it hidden from the public, Richie cannot sustain his own brand as evidenced by his failed tour in Europe for After the Lowdown, and he never once acknowledged the disappointment he handed to the fans upon his return to the tours in recent years.

Many fans, especially in Europe, take on second or third jobs to be able to afford accommodations and tickets to concerts, only to be disappointed because Richie won't deal with problems professionally. Is Jon perfect? Absolutely not, however, he IS professional. He limped off Giant Stadium and hobbled through Europe stopping off in Ireland for a knee operation. Jon never missed a show. Never. THAT'S a professional musician.

Richie tweeted that he's an artist, so he'll probably blame his behavior on artistic temperament. It won't serve him well because I, for one, am not going to enable his childish behavior. He's not all that and a bag of chips.

Perhaps like Streisand and others, Richie's developed a bad case of stage fright. If so, say so, but in my mind if you truly are a fan and truly love him, then don't let this behavior continue by coddling him. Jon's had to bear the responsibility of running this brand, everyone else goes home.

Let's report on concert reviews and other stuff. If you love Sambora, then walk away from him until he realizes that the fans are why he had a job, nothing else. It'll help him in the long run. Unfollow him, unfriend him, and see how long it takes him to strap on his guitar and rejoin the band (IF Jon takes him back).

It's tough love, but at this stage of game, Sambora needs just that.

Peace, love, out...

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Rundem

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#2 May 26, 2013
Totally agree!

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Since: Jun 11

Gdansk/Poland

#3 May 26, 2013
Tough Love - i think you said exactly what should be said - brilliant post ,100% truth!

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Always a Bon Jovi fan

El Paso, TX

#4 May 26, 2013
Totally agree. What else was Jon supposed to do or say. As Jon stated, he has done this before more than once due to substance abuse. I'm sure Jon meant no disrespect to Richie. As he stated it is getting hard for him not to say anything. Richie should have just come out and told the band his reasons for not continuing with the tour and should have let Jon know what is bothering him before it got out of hand. Now people's curiosity has gotten the best of them and are now wanting to know what happened between them. Richie stated Jon wants to pull off stadiums by himself. Seems to me, Jon, Tico and David are doing an awesome job without him. I'm sure it's not the same without Richie, but he is doing it and fans are going to his concerts even though they wish Richie was with them. Has Richie given any thought and consideration as to how Tico and David must have felt knowing Richie bailed out on them again and knowing he made a mess of things. If he misses his fans so much, and wants to give them a show they so richly deserve with the whole band why doesn't he just suck it up, put differences aside and join them in the remaining tour. Not only is he cheating his fans; but he is also cheating himself too. Seems to me, he has always been jealous of Jon's success. For his sake and the sake of the band, I sincerely hope the band will remain together for another tour. If not, Jon will always be performing without his band as he has done in the past.

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Vee

Bedford, UK

#5 May 26, 2013
I agree i would never bail out of going to see them because Richie was not there i an disapointed and sad. I tweeted Richie last night and said he should get back to the band he did not reply to me persoanlly but he tweeted that he cant return because things have not been resolved.I cant help but think there is something between him and Jon.Its sad but i think your right this looks like the end of Richie as part of the band he has left it to long to sort this out now.I agree Richie does owe the fans he has let down an explanation, he is quite obviously not in rehab and he looks ok.Well im going to see them June 8th i cant wait so excited,,,,

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pll

Kingston, Canada

#6 May 26, 2013
Tough Love wrote:
OK, so I've been a long-time Bon Jovi fan, not simply a JBJ fan, but a fan of the band...all of them.
Here's my take on Richie's nonsense (and, IMHO) it's all nonsense. Richie has not performed well in the past three years (especially the MTV debacle)and beyond that if Jon's kept it hidden from the public, Richie cannot sustain his own brand as evidenced by his failed tour in Europe for After the Lowdown, and he never once acknowledged the disappointment he handed to the fans upon his return to the tours in recent years.
Many fans, especially in Europe, take on second or third jobs to be able to afford accommodations and tickets to concerts, only to be disappointed because Richie won't deal with problems professionally. Is Jon perfect? Absolutely not, however, he IS professional. He limped off Giant Stadium and hobbled through Europe stopping off in Ireland for a knee operation. Jon never missed a show. Never. THAT'S a professional musician.
Richie tweeted that he's an artist, so he'll probably blame his behavior on artistic temperament. It won't serve him well because I, for one, am not going to enable his childish behavior. He's not all that and a bag of chips.
Perhaps like Streisand and others, Richie's developed a bad case of stage fright. If so, say so, but in my mind if you truly are a fan and truly love him, then don't let this behavior continue by coddling him. Jon's had to bear the responsibility of running this brand, everyone else goes home.
Let's report on concert reviews and other stuff. If you love Sambora, then walk away from him until he realizes that the fans are why he had a job, nothing else. It'll help him in the long run. Unfollow him, unfriend him, and see how long it takes him to strap on his guitar and rejoin the band (IF Jon takes him back).
It's tough love, but at this stage of game, Sambora needs just that.
Peace, love, out...
Awesome post!!!

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Vee

Bedford, UK

#7 May 26, 2013
Vee wrote:
I agree i would never bail out of going to see them because Richie was not there i an disapointed and sad. I tweeted Richie last night and said he should get back to the band he did not reply to me persoanlly but he tweeted that he cant return because things have not been resolved.I cant help but think there is something between him and Jon.Its sad but i think your right this looks like the end of Richie as part of the band he has left it to long to sort this out now.I agree Richie does owe the fans he has let down an explanation, he is quite obviously not in rehab and he looks ok.Well im going to see them June 8th i cant wait so excited,,,,
Wow what a bunch of jerks your judging is unfair sorry for having an opnion!!!

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Janice domingo

Kowloon, Hong Kong

#8 May 26, 2013
Just wait and see , i love both Jon and Richie. who knows , Richie will join the band on the Australian leg. their is very especial about this two brother.. Jon was born in the year of TIGER and Richie was born in the year of PIG.. people born in the year of TIGER is born to be a Leader, people born in the year of PIG is a very soft hearted ...
WeWantSamboraBac k

Winnipeg, Canada

#9 May 26, 2013
Janice domingo wrote:
Just wait and see , i love both Jon and Richie. who knows , Richie will join the band on the Australian leg. their is very especial about this two brother.. Jon was born in the year of TIGER and Richie was born in the year of PIG.. people born in the year of TIGER is born to be a Leader, people born in the year of PIG is a very soft hearted ...
Interesting.

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The fourth trine consists of the Rabbit, Goat and Pig. The quest for these three signs is the aesthetic, beauty, and a more philosophical, and intellectual approach in life. Their calm nature gives them great leadership abilities. They are artistic, refined, intuitive, intelligent and well-mannered. These souls love the preliminaries in love, and are fine artists in their lovemaking. The Rabbit, Goat and Pig have been bestowed with calmer natures than the other 9 signs. These three are compassionately aware, yet detached and resigned to their condition. They seek beauty and a sensitive love. They are caring, unique, self-sacrificing, obliging, sensible, creative, empathetic, tactful, and prudent. They can also be naive, pedantic, insecure, cunning, indecisive, and pessimistic.
Teri

Branford, CT

#10 May 27, 2013
Tough Love wrote:
OK, so I've been a long-time Bon Jovi fan, not simply a JBJ fan, but a fan of the band...all of them.
Here's my take on Richie's nonsense (and, IMHO) it's all nonsense. Richie has not performed well in the past three years (especially the MTV debacle)and beyond that if Jon's kept it hidden from the public, Richie cannot sustain his own brand as evidenced by his failed tour in Europe for After the Lowdown, and he never once acknowledged the disappointment he handed to the fans upon his return to the tours in recent years.
Many fans, especially in Europe, take on second or third jobs to be able to afford accommodations and tickets to concerts, only to be disappointed because Richie won't deal with problems professionally. Is Jon perfect? Absolutely not, however, he IS professional. He limped off Giant Stadium and hobbled through Europe stopping off in Ireland for a knee operation. Jon never missed a show. Never. THAT'S a professional musician.
Richie tweeted that he's an artist, so he'll probably blame his behavior on artistic temperament. It won't serve him well because I, for one, am not going to enable his childish behavior. He's not all that and a bag of chips.
Perhaps like Streisand and others, Richie's developed a bad case of stage fright. If so, say so, but in my mind if you truly are a fan and truly love him, then don't let this behavior continue by coddling him. Jon's had to bear the responsibility of running this brand, everyone else goes home.
Let's report on concert reviews and other stuff. If you love Sambora, then walk away from him until he realizes that the fans are why he had a job, nothing else. It'll help him in the long run. Unfollow him, unfriend him, and see how long it takes him to strap on his guitar and rejoin the band (IF Jon takes him back).
It's tough love, but at this stage of game, Sambora needs just that.6503
Peace, love, out...
In a word.... No

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jerzeme

Tampa, FL

#11 May 27, 2013
Tough Love wrote:
OK, so I've been a long-time Bon Jovi fan, not simply a JBJ fan, but a fan of the band...all of them.
Here's my take on Richie's nonsense (and, IMHO) it's all nonsense. Richie has not performed well in the past three years (especially the MTV debacle)and beyond that if Jon's kept it hidden from the public, Richie cannot sustain his own brand as evidenced by his failed tour in Europe for After the Lowdown, and he never once acknowledged the disappointment he handed to the fans upon his return to the tours in recent years.
Many fans, especially in Europe, take on second or third jobs to be able to afford accommodations and tickets to concerts, only to be disappointed because Richie won't deal with problems professionally. Is Jon perfect? Absolutely not, however, he IS professional. He limped off Giant Stadium and hobbled through Europe stopping off in Ireland for a knee operation. Jon never missed a show. Never. THAT'S a professional musician.
Richie tweeted that he's an artist, so he'll probably blame his behavior on artistic temperament. It won't serve him well because I, for one, am not going to enable his childish behavior. He's not all that and a bag of chips.
Perhaps like Streisand and others, Richie's developed a bad case of stage fright. If so, say so, but in my mind if you truly are a fan and truly love him, then don't let this behavior continue by coddling him. Jon's had to bear the responsibility of running this brand, everyone else goes home.
Let's report on concert reviews and other stuff. If you love Sambora, then walk away from him until he realizes that the fans are why he had a job, nothing else. It'll help him in the long run. Unfollow him, unfriend him, and see how long it takes him to strap on his guitar and rejoin the band (IF Jon takes him back).
It's tough love, but at this stage of game, Sambora needs just that.
Peace, love, out...
Could not have stated these facts better. Thank You

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JackieBlues

Charlotte, NC

#12 May 27, 2013
Teri wrote:
<quoted text> In a word.... No
What she said.
I don't believe things are as simple as they are laid out in these posts. While I'm sure Richie has his faults like every other human on the planet I don't think that unreliability or disrespect for his fans are among them. I also think he owes absolutely NOTHING to any so-called fan who writes him off simply because he doesn't explain, to their personal satisfaction, what reasons he has for walking away from tour. If they can't see past their own disappointment long enough to respect him and trust that his reasons are valid until they at least know what those reasons are, then I don't think he owes them a damn thing.

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Since: Jan 09

New Jersey

#13 May 27, 2013
You don't think he is unreliable.

What do you call a musician who doesn't show up , shows up visibly impaired to a show, misses a leg on a tour, cancels shows, doesn't show for rehearsal, misses multiple legs on another tour, all in 2 years?

Personally I don't need a reason from him, his actions speak louder than words.

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rundem

Keewatin, Canada

#14 May 27, 2013
BonJersey wrote:
You don't think he is unreliable.
What do you call a musician who doesn't show up , shows up visibly impaired to a show, misses a leg on a tour, cancels shows, doesn't show for rehearsal, misses multiple legs on another tour, all in 2 years?
Personally I don't need a reason from him, his actions speak louder than words.
I agree with you Bon Jersey.
And doesn't show up at a major award show and advertises a contest that was to have ended April 22 and he still can't manage to find the time to pick a winner (which is really fraud)

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Nicky

Providence, RI

#15 May 27, 2013
BonJersey wrote:
You don't think he is unreliable.
What do you call a musician who doesn't show up , shows up visibly impaired to a show, misses a leg on a tour, cancels shows, doesn't show for rehearsal, misses multiple legs on another tour, all in 2 years?
Personally I don't need a reason from him, his actions speak louder than words.
Don't forget walks out on a live broadcast of the CMT awards because of a fight with his girlfriend.
Maria

Athens, Greece

#16 May 27, 2013
Like I said on another thread... consistently inconsistent.
Hope he resolves his issues. Hope Jon resolves his. Hope they manage not to waist 30 years of friendship and history on juvenile behaviors, egos, vanity ...
IHateStupid

Moers, Germany

#17 May 27, 2013
Tough Love wrote:
....Richie cannot sustain his own brand as evidenced by his failed tour in Europe for After the Lowdown......
failed tour in Europe?!?!
get your facts right! the European tour great. almost all shows sold out.
rundem

Keewatin, Canada

#18 May 27, 2013
IHateStupid wrote:
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failed tour in Europe?!?!
get your facts right! the European tour great. almost all shows sold out.
He canceled Philadelphia, New York and Toronto.
He really has to stop saying He wants to play Hyde Park. After obviously not wanting to play Calgary, the remarks infuriate me. Its almost like a spoiled child. And if Jon really treated him so cruely, I don't know why he wants to.

Since: Jan 09

New Jersey

#19 May 27, 2013
rundem wrote:
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He canceled Philadelphia, New York and Toronto.
He really has to stop saying He wants to play Hyde Park. After obviously not wanting to play Calgary, the remarks infuriate me. Its almost like a spoiled child. And if Jon really treated him so cruely, I don't know why he wants to.
That is why Richie's statements make no sense. He is obviously lying.

He also cancelled San Francisco.
JackieBlues

Charlotte, NC

#20 May 27, 2013
BonJersey wrote:
You don't think he is unreliable.
What do you call a musician who doesn't show up , shows up visibly impaired to a show, misses a leg on a tour, cancels shows, doesn't show for rehearsal, misses multiple legs on another tour, all in 2 years?
Personally I don't need a reason from him, his actions speak louder than words.
What do I call it? Let's consider it together, okay?

1. Assuming your first 3 concerns refer to post-HAND MTV Unplugged and rehab during The Circle, I would call it coming to realize that he had a substance abuse problem, intensified by a rapid sequence of devestating personal losses, and subsequently seeking assistance to deal with said problem.

2. Assuming that the canceled shows to which you refer are the US solo shows (2 of which I had tix and traveled a long distance for, btw), I would call that having the good sense to realize that a solo artist can't possibly pull off 2-hr gigs with (verified) laryngitis - not if he expects to be heard and not if he wants protect his vocal chords from possible permanent damage.

3. The missed rehearsal I can't address because I have yet to hear anything but jumbled and conflicting bits and pcs of speculation about that. But let's say that, God forbid, he missed a rehearsal. I wonder what percentage of the countless number of rehearsals that BJ has had over their 30 year history one missed rehearsal would constitute? If they only had ONE rehearsal PER YEAR it would be maybe 3 percent. My God, how dare he!!

4. Multiple legs must refer to this year so that one's easy... Oh wait! No it isn't... because WE DON'T KNOW THE REASON YET, DO WE???

Jumping ahead to the next posts:

5. The video contest: Given that Richie has probably had to suspend AOTL promotions while not touring, or be in breach of his Jovi contract, he probably can't announce a winner until the situation is resolved.

6. IF Richie actually said that he wanted to play Hyde Park as attributed to him, he apparently only said it once. He can't be held accountable for the number of times it's quoted. Or are you now holding him responsible for the actions of the press, too?

7. CMT? Richie didn't walk out on CMT. Contrary to the tabloids' reports, Richie was NOT scheduled to present at the awards. Both he and Denise tweeted several times in the weeks prior to the event that DENISE was the one who was presenting. Richie simply accompanied her to Nashville.

On the other hand, there WAS that time... let me think... Oh yeah... it was an earlier CMT awards show in April of 2007 when, even after receiving the phone call that his father's death was at hand, and despite Jon's blessing to take the jet and go, Richie stayed long enough to fulfill THAT obligation before he abandoned ship to go say a final good-bye to his dad.

I'm not sure I would have stayed, risking the chance that I might not see my dad alive again. That action alone speaks volumes. Not to mention all the times over the 28 years prior to the past two, when Richie has not only shown up and given his all, but has also covered Jon's backside when HE had no more to give. Sounds pretty dependable if you ask me. Which you did.:)

I realize that people are frustrated and the timing does suck. But since we don't yet know what the reason is for Richie's absence, I think it is incredibly unfair to try, judge, convict, and sentence him before the facts are in.

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