Trouble In Joviland: The dark underbe...

Trouble In Joviland: The dark underbelly of being a Bon Jovi fan

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wizardofofosrin

Miami, FL

#1 Oct 3, 2013
All isn't sweetness and light or loves the only rule in JoviLand...
http://bit.ly/1fMHYeZ
pebeamann

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#2 Oct 5, 2013
So very true, I personally like reading these stories. I know I will be attacked for it too. Just like the article says. Maybe my personal little UNfan club on here will attempt to hold back their ire to prove me wrong. It would be refreshing if they did. I guess since I have only been on this forum for 6 months or so this writer hasn't bothered me in anyway. I'm not personally putting any pennies in his pocket, just reading an article, and this particular one hits the nail right on the head from what I have experienced here.
Both sides

Melbourne, Australia

#3 Oct 5, 2013
pebeamann wrote:
So very true, I personally like reading these stories. I know I will be attacked for it too. Just like the article says. Maybe my personal little UNfan club on here will attempt to hold back their ire to prove me wrong. It would be refreshing if they did. I guess since I have only been on this forum for 6 months or so this writer hasn't bothered me in anyway. I'm not personally putting any pennies in his pocket, just reading an article, and this particular one hits the nail right on the head from what I have experienced here.
Personally I think you get back what you put out into the universe. There is a reason people are fighting with you. Perhaps could be your delivery? What ever the reason I think your experience here has been brought upon by yourself.
Rosa

Australia

#4 Oct 5, 2013
pebeamann wrote:
So very true, I personally like reading these stories. I know I will be attacked for it too. Just like the article says. Maybe my personal little UNfan club on here will attempt to hold back their ire to prove me wrong. It would be refreshing if they did. I guess since I have only been on this forum for 6 months or so this writer hasn't bothered me in anyway. I'm not personally putting any pennies in his pocket, just reading an article,
You are personally putting pennies in his pocket. Everytime someone looks at the blog, he gets paid. That's why he promotes on this forum because he knows the readers will go. He wouldn't dare post this on Jovitalk because he knows he reaction he will get.

Since: Mar 09

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#5 Oct 6, 2013
I don't understand why a journalist isn't to be paid for his work? Doesn't matter if you agree with him or not. Yet, people still find it worth their while to comment on him and his comments. Why not just ignore the thread all together?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#6 Oct 6, 2013
And Rosa, my comment is more a general comment, not necessarily a reply to your comment.
pebeamann

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#7 Oct 6, 2013
Well all I can say is that I didn't know it would put pennies in his pocket, and I guess I don't care. He certainly wouldn't be the only one writing anything about the band. Does it follow that the blogger Randi Reed who also wrote something but most here agree with what was written, so she is "allowed" to have her stuff read, and put up on here ? I hesitate to even use the question mark when I ask a question anymore, as when I use it I am viewed as being sarcastic.
It's the way I was taught to ask a question in the written form.
WeWantSamboraBac k

Winnipeg, Canada

#8 Oct 6, 2013
pebeamann wrote:
Well all I can say is that I didn't know it would put pennies in his pocket, and I guess I don't care. He certainly wouldn't be the only one writing anything about the band. Does it follow that the blogger Randi Reed who also wrote something but most here agree with what was written, so she is "allowed" to have her stuff read, and put up on here ? I hesitate to even use the question mark when I ask a question anymore, as when I use it I am viewed as being sarcastic.
It's the way I was taught to ask a question in the written form.
I agree with you. It's the old double standard again.
I'm assuming they hate this guy because he must have said something negative about Jon....Wanna bet? LOL
pebeamann

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#9 Oct 6, 2013
Both sides wrote:
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Personally I think you get back what you put out into the universe. There is a reason people are fighting with you. Perhaps could be your delivery? What ever the reason I think your experience here has been brought upon by yourself.
And what is it that you think you are putting out there into the Universe ? You don't know me at all, and you have been jumping all over me since the first day you posted on this forum, even chasing me from thread to thread to reply to everything I write, and how surprising is it that you simply couldn't resist saying anything here too, I'll answer that one, not surprising at all. And I think there are 3 counting you who "fight" with me. I at least have an idea why the other 2 do, but none when it comes to you.
Both sides

Saint Leonards, Australia

#10 Oct 6, 2013
WeWantSamboraBack wrote:
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I agree with you. It's the old double standard again.
I'm assuming they hate this guy because he must have said something negative about Jon....Wanna bet? LOL
I'm pretty sure you invented the word double standard! Wizard is a well known guitarist supporter and Jon hater. Like many of the other guitarist supporters he has to lower himself to insulting Jon and Matt to try to get readers.
If you think that's ok. There is one reason for that!

Randi reed put out a blog that came from the heart and if you are not blind you can see the truth come out in it.
If someone who has connections with the band in the industry (not z class pr guys or fashion mongers desperate for a buck) came out and said the opposite, I would believe it. I'd have no reason not to.
That's the difference between Jon fans and your type. We base our thoughts on what's out there by people who know. You base yours on emotion and anger, and the thoughts that the guitarist could never do anything wrong, and if he did it's all Jon's fault.
I feel bad for your type, I do. It keeps on getting harder hanging on...
Both sides

Saint Leonards, Australia

#11 Oct 6, 2013
pebeamann wrote:
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And what is it that you think you are putting out there into the Universe ? You don't know me at all, and you have been jumping all over me since the first day you posted on this forum, even chasing me from thread to thread to reply to everything I write, and how surprising is it that you simply couldn't resist saying anything here too, I'll answer that one, not surprising at all. And I think there are 3 counting you who "fight" with me. I at least have an idea why the other 2 do, but none when it comes to you.
This is what I wrote to you in another post
Are you seriously going to start this all over again and waste everyone's time here?
Let's start it or end it NOW! Your choice?

Up to you, if you wanna keep it going back and forth feel free. If you want to put and end to it all now just say so and it ends now! Your choice
pebeamann

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#12 Oct 6, 2013
Both sides wrote:
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This is what I wrote to you in another post
Are you seriously going to start this all over again and waste everyone's time here?
Let's start it or end it NOW! Your choice?
Up to you, if you wanna keep it going back and forth feel free. If you want to put and end to it all now just say so and it ends now! Your choice
I am not understanding what you are saying about "This is what I wrote to you...." Do you think I don't know that ?That this is my reply to that very post ? I don't come here to fight with anyone, not you, or anyone else. I give my own opinions and views about things, not someone else's regurgitated. You are the one that follows me around this forum, I certainly don't follow you. I say something, you reply. With the exception of Friday night, I never continuously replied over and over. I've never done that any other time, and have no wish to ever do it again. So if it makes you think you have reached some type of victory here, by me saying I want to end it, then I can be the bigger person and say it. END IT . And don't reply to anything I write again, I'm sick of you and your nastiness. For the record I'm not a Richie idolizer, I'm not a Jon idolizer either. I think they both have extremely good qualities. I just am not ready to throw anyone under the bus until there are facts put out there by either one. I do not consider any blogger as factual. It has to come from Jon's mouth, or Richie's, or prefereably both. Now, leave me be
Both sides

Saint Leonards, Australia

#13 Oct 6, 2013
pebeamann wrote:
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I am not understanding what you are saying about "This is what I wrote to you...." Do you think I don't know that ?That this is my reply to that very post ? I don't come here to fight with anyone, not you, or anyone else. I give my own opinions and views about things, not someone else's regurgitated. You are the one that follows me around this forum, I certainly don't follow you. I say something, you reply. With the exception of Friday night, I never continuously replied over and over. I've never done that any other time, and have no wish to ever do it again. So if it makes you think you have reached some type of victory here, by me saying I want to end it, then I can be the bigger person and say it. END IT . And don't reply to anything I write again, I'm sick of you and your nastiness. For the record I'm not a Richie idolizer, I'm not a Jon idolizer either. I think they both have extremely good qualities. I just am not ready to throw anyone under the bus until there are facts put out there by either one. I do not consider any blogger as factual. It has to come from Jon's mouth, or Richie's, or prefereably both. Now, leave me be
I'll consider that a truce then! No one here wants a repeat of the rubbish that was played out the other night.
Elizabeth

Des Moines, IA

#14 Oct 6, 2013
Why, oh why, do I even come here? Anyone know of a forum where Bon Jovi is discussed on a CIVILIZED basis?

I can't imagine how sad and uncomfortable it would make the members of the band, originals or necessary replacements, to know this goes regularly goes on in a forum....

Since: Feb 07

Caledon, Canada

#15 Oct 9, 2013
Looks to me like Osrin is going to repost every single one of his blogs from the examiner. Guess that's one way for him to make more pennies, now that he's no longer an examiner blogger.

Since: Feb 07

Caledon, Canada

#16 Oct 9, 2013
Elizabeth wrote:
Why, oh why, do I even come here? Anyone know of a forum where Bon Jovi is discussed on a CIVILIZED basis?
I can't imagine how sad and uncomfortable it would make the members of the band, originals or necessary replacements, to know this goes regularly goes on in a forum....
Nope...and I am or have been a member of a lot of different Bon Jovi forums over the years.

I've also said and still believe that we never know who is reading what or where they are reading it. Wouldn't surprise me at all if some of those that you mention know exactly what goes on here and in the other forums. We just never know....
jbjpeaches

Lawrenceville, GA

#17 Oct 9, 2013
mgemay wrote:
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Nope...and I am or have been a member of a lot of different Bon Jovi forums over the years.
I've also said and still believe that we never know who is reading what or where they are reading it. Wouldn't surprise me at all if some of those that you mention know exactly what goes on here and in the other forums. We just never know....

..... you never know!:-)
natyb

Toulouse, France

#18 Oct 9, 2013
jbjpeaches wrote:
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..... you never know!:-)
Thrilling !!!!
pebeamann

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#19 Oct 9, 2013
I've said before that it wouldn't surprise me at all if people I the BJ circle have boards monitored. I wish I could just keep my trap shut sometimes, and do try to not speak badly about any of the guys in the band or their families . Sometimes I do voice my thoughts about what is written by people on here, ok, more then sometimes. It's just my nature, to speak up when I see things being said that I feel are unjust. I would be much better off if I kept my mouth shut.
WeWantSamboraBac k

Winnipeg, Canada

#20 Oct 9, 2013
mgemay wrote:
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Nope...and I am or have been a member of a lot of different Bon Jovi forums over the years.
I've also said and still believe that we never know who is reading what or where they are reading it. Wouldn't surprise me at all if some of those that you mention know exactly what goes on here and in the other forums. We just never know....
Oh so that's explains it all! He's reading this stuff so you are all being "loyal". lol

It actually wouldn't surprise me in the least if he or someone he knows does read here and I can almost guarantee they have people keeping tabs all over and I bet some are posting pretending they are just fans. Like I said before, I know it happens, as in the situation I was involved in a few years ago.

Okay well....Love ya Jon! <3
But even though I love you I still want Richie back! The majority of the fans want Richie back.
You are the heart and he is the soul of Bon Jovi. FACT.
Do whatever you have to do to fix this shit and get him back. ASAP

Thanks!:)

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