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Health care industry chases after Blue Dogs

There are 39 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Aug 30, 2009, titled Health care industry chases after Blue Dogs. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

As the Obama administration and Democrats wrangled over the timing, shape and cost of health care overhaul efforts during the first half of the year, more than half the $1.1 million in campaign contributions the Democratic Party's Blue Dog Coalition received came from the pharmaceutical, health care and health insurance industries, according to ...

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A worried independent

Rochester, MN

#1 Aug 31, 2009
"The coalition also sent the Democratic House leadership a letter stressing they would favor a public option only if industry reforms and greater competition don't lead to lower costs."

Isn't lower costs the whole point of overhauling the health care system? And, doesn't it scare you that the Blue Dogs, and especially the House Republicans, are getting paid a LOT of money from the healthcare system?

This explains the holdup over health care. This really worries the hell out of me, because I wonder if these folks are serving the public trust, or our screwed up health care insurance system?

Gab

“Surrounded by Libs.”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#2 Aug 31, 2009
The blue dog coalition are supposed to be comprised of Democrats that support fiscal responsabability.
Nothing they support point to anything even remotely close to that brand of policy.
If we're counting on them to stop Obama from leading us over the cliff,we're screwed!

Since: Apr 07

UK

#3 Aug 31, 2009
The only problem I personally see with the proposed Universal Health care is this.ill gave us the HMOs which were suppose to be the end all answer to our growing health care problem.

We already have Medicare and Medicare both of which are government run operations and both of which are running us broke due to governmental mismanagement.

Just judging by the Democrats past record with our health care why should we trust them?

Shouldn't they fix the mess they have already created BEFORE they create a more massive health care mess? Let's face a reality here. Government run health care DOES NOT work. Only when our doctors are allowed to advise us as to the best medical treatment and we are allowed to make our own decisions will the cost of our health care come down.

When we are forced to be responsible for our own health care can we control the ever increasing costs of health care in this country.

Oh yea that's right. After the 13 TRILLION DOLLARS of worthless paper the Democrats just dumped into our economy everything is going to increase in costs a thousand fold.

You really want to know what the hold up is?

No one including Barry and the Congressional Democrats have a clue as to what is in it. When asked they are unable to give any specifics and hedge around trying to sell a theory, an idea and a mythological idea. Sure it sounds good reduce costs but at what price? That is the 63 TRILLION DOLLAR question.

Since: Apr 07

UK

#4 Aug 31, 2009
Correction:

Hillery and Bill Clinton gave us the HMOs which were suppose to be the end all answer to our growing health care problem.

Not

ill gave us the HMOs which were suppose to be the end all answer to our growing health care problem.

Since: Apr 07

UK

#5 Aug 31, 2009
Under the HMOs the Insurance companies were suppose to control the growing cost of health care.

Now Barry and the Congressional Democrats want to hand that responsibility over to a group of government employees.

VERY BAD IDEA.

Look at what Barry and the Congressional Democrats have done to the auto industry. over 2 million jobs lost and still more job losses to come. Now just imagine what will happen to the health care industry once they are able to control it. How many millions more Americans are going to have to loose their jobs before Barry Soetoro AKA Barrack Hussein Obama and the Congressional Democrats are voted OUT of office?

Wake up America!!! We have an Indonesian citizen playing mindless games with our country.

“Say What?”

Since: Mar 08

Somewhere

#6 Aug 31, 2009
Obama was elected by the idea of "hope and change" with little details by the majority of the voting public. Unfortunately, now that the specifics are coming out, the majority is realizing what a mistake they made. It's the same way with this health care reform/health insurance reform. As the specifics become known, the public is turning against it.
Porkulus

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Aug 31, 2009
Throughout his years in the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama joined Democrats to defeat meaningful health care reform proposals that would have helped to solve many of the problems he now says can only be addressed by a $2-trillion government takeover. A sampling of Sen. Obama’s greatest NAY’s below:

NO on Allowing Americans to Deduct Their Health Care Costs. S. Con. Res. 70 (110th Congress, 2nd Session, Roll Call 82). The Senate rejected an effort to allow for an above-the-line federal income tax deduction for individuals who do not receive health insurance through their employers. The amendment offered by Sen. DeMint (R-SC) failed on March 13, 2008 by a vote of 45-51.

NO on Allowing Americans the Freedom to Purchase Health Insurance Across State Lines. H.R. 976 (110th Congress, 1st Session, Roll Call 305). The Senate rejected an effort to allow Americans to purchase individual health insurance across state lines. The amendment offered by Sen. DeMint (R-SC) failed on August 2, 2007 by a vote of 37-62.

NO on Allowing Americans to Use Their OWN HSA Funds to Cover Health Insurance Premiums. H.R. 2 (110th Congress, 1st Session, Roll Call 26). The Senate rejected an effort to allow Americans to use their tax-free Health Savings Account funds to purchase health insurance. The amendment offered by Sen. Ensign (R-NV) failed on January 25, 2007 by a vote of 47-48.

NO on Preventing the Erosion of Private Health Coverage. S.Amdt. 2537 to S.Amdt. 2530 to H.R. 976 (110th Congress, Session 1, Roll Call 299)The Senate rejected an effort to minimize the erosion of private health coverage. The amendment offered by Sen. Kyl (R-AZ) failed on August 2, 2007 by a vote of 37-62.

NO on Expanding Access to Small Business Health Plans. On Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Committee Amendment (110th Congress, Session 2, Roll Call 119). The Senate rejected an effort to allow for the expansion of health care access and reduced costs through the creation of small business health plans and through modernization of the health insurance marketplace on May 11, 2006 by a vote of 55-32.

NO on Preserving Employer-Sponsored Coverage. S.Amdt. 2596 to S.Amdt. 2530 to H.R. 976 (110th Congress, Session 1, Roll Call 301)The Senate rejected an effort that would require individuals who are eligible for SCHIP and employer-sponsored coverage to use the employer-sponsored coverage instead of SCHIP. The amendment offered by Sen. Vitter (R-LA) failed on August 2, 2007 by a vote of 35-64.

NO on Requiring Health Insurance for Illegal Immigrants. S. 1348 (110th Congress, 1st Session, Roll Call 188). The Senate rejected an effort to require illegal immigrants seeking “Z Visas” to maintain a minimum level of health coverage. The amendment offered by Sen. DeMint (R-SC) failed on June 6, 2007 by a vote of 43-55.




OPressed

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Aug 31, 2009
"The Blue Dogs, a group of fiscally conservative lawmakers" - Oxymoron
tww

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Aug 31, 2009
How many lay-offs will there be if Obamacare passes? The impact of Obamacare is going to be significant on the entire economy.
Bob the Bilderberg

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Aug 31, 2009
tww wrote:
How many lay-offs will there be if Obamacare passes? The impact of Obamacare is going to be significant on the entire economy.
There's 10,000 IT people at UHC alone. That's a lot of unemployed IT people.

But I'm sure Betty and Mohammid Ellison have a plan to attract replacement employers, right guys?
steve9001

Santee, CA

#13 Aug 31, 2009
Blue dog is a rotten term. Should be more descriptive. How about, "Well greased by the insurance industry Democrats"
steve9001

Santee, CA

#14 Aug 31, 2009
tww wrote:
How many lay-offs will there be if Obamacare passes? The impact of Obamacare is going to be significant on the entire economy.
Hopefully it will lay off the entire health insurance industry. With everyone covered, their function is reduced to skimming their revenue stream and feeding it to their executives and shareholders. We cannot afford insurance companies in healthcare. The real scarry question you should be asking is what if Obamacare does NOT pass. Have to hand it to the minority. They have done a supurb job of scaring the bejesus out of the folks using the word "Obamacare".
Naive Dogs

Rosemount, MN

#15 Aug 31, 2009
If healthcare reform doesn't pass because of these self-serving players, I'd like to tighten the grip on their throats and make them a little more 'blue'. Nowhere is there talk that reducing healthcare costs isn't on the Obama agenda as the administration tries to craft a bill. Yet, the conservatives of both parties continue braying about this as though only they have their eyes on this goal. If healthcare reform dies because of the dubious actions of this group of Democrats, I hope that they are the group that suffers the 20 member loss that's predicted when the 2010 election occurs. We need Congress to stand with Obama on healthcare reform!
OPressed

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Aug 31, 2009
Steve9001 and Naive Dogs are a prime example of those without ambition to do for themselves and want everyone else to support their lazy A55 in life... Typical of an Obame supporter.

“Ahhhh hee ahw”

Since: Aug 09

Twin Cities

#17 Aug 31, 2009
Headline should have read: "Dems get blue lips from blue dog dix"
steve9001

Santee, CA

#18 Aug 31, 2009
OPressed wrote:
Steve9001 and Naive Dogs are a prime example of those without ambition to do for themselves and want everyone else to support their lazy A55 in life... Typical of an Obame supporter.
Thank you I will speak for myself...Ambition, got plenty of it. My philisophical difference is in how much we spend on healthcare, 16% of GDP. Way too much! Eliminating the insurance layer will knock a good third off the top of that. If it is not there, you cannot spend money on it!

Dr Frank Lippenheimer

Since: Mar 09

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Aug 31, 2009
America to Blue Dog Democrats: KILL THE BILL.

We do not WANT socialized medicine. We cannot AFFORD socialized medicine. We do not believe that we NEED socialized medicine. We have seen how government has managed Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Fannie/Freddie, YOU NAME IT: in each & every case the government in Washington has acted both irresponsibly AND fraudulently with regard to these massive entitlement programs. WHY ON EARTH would we want them to create another one?

Obama's approval rate has slipped to 47% today (Rassmussen). Think about it, Blue Dogs. In 2008 you had Obama's "Hope 'n Change" coattails. In 2010 you will have nothing, and at the rate Obama is spending & taxing business, our economic situation promises to be worse rather than better.

KILL THE BILL
John T

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Aug 31, 2009
Porkulus wrote:
Throughout his years in the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama joined Democrats to defeat meaningful health care reform proposals that would have helped to solve many of the problems he now says can only be addressed by a $2-trillion government takeover. A sampling of Sen. Obama’s greatest NAY’s below:
NO on Allowing Americans to Deduct Their Health Care Costs. S. Con. Res. 70 (110th Congress, 2nd Session, Roll Call 82). The Senate rejected an effort to allow for an above-the-line federal income tax deduction for individuals who do not receive health insurance through their employers. The amendment offered by Sen. DeMint (R-SC) failed on March 13, 2008 by a vote of 45-51.
NO on Allowing Americans the Freedom to Purchase Health Insurance Across State Lines. H.R. 976 (110th Congress, 1st Session, Roll Call 305). The Senate rejected an effort to allow Americans to purchase individual health insurance across state lines. The amendment offered by Sen. DeMint (R-SC) failed on August 2, 2007 by a vote of 37-62.
NO on Allowing Americans to Use Their OWN HSA Funds to Cover Health Insurance Premiums. H.R. 2 (110th Congress, 1st Session, Roll Call 26). The Senate rejected an effort to allow Americans to use their tax-free Health Savings Account funds to purchase health insurance. The amendment offered by Sen. Ensign (R-NV) failed on January 25, 2007 by a vote of 47-48.
NO on Preventing the Erosion of Private Health Coverage. S.Amdt. 2537 to S.Amdt. 2530 to H.R. 976 (110th Congress, Session 1, Roll Call 299)The Senate rejected an effort to minimize the erosion of private health coverage. The amendment offered by Sen. Kyl (R-AZ) failed on August 2, 2007 by a vote of 37-62.
NO on Expanding Access to Small Business Health Plans. On Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Committee Amendment (110th Congress, Session 2, Roll Call 119). The Senate rejected an effort to allow for the expansion of health care access and reduced costs through the creation of small business health plans and through modernization of the health insurance marketplace on May 11, 2006 by a vote of 55-32.
NO on Preserving Employer-Sponsored Coverage. S.Amdt. 2596 to S.Amdt. 2530 to H.R. 976 (110th Congress, Session 1, Roll Call 301)The Senate rejected an effort that would require individuals who are eligible for SCHIP and employer-sponsored coverage to use the employer-sponsored coverage instead of SCHIP. The amendment offered by Sen. Vitter (R-LA) failed on August 2, 2007 by a vote of 35-64.
NO on Requiring Health Insurance for Illegal Immigrants. S. 1348 (110th Congress, 1st Session, Roll Call 188). The Senate rejected an effort to require illegal immigrants seeking “Z Visas” to maintain a minimum level of health coverage. The amendment offered by Sen. DeMint (R-SC) failed on June 6, 2007 by a vote of 43-55.
So when I hear the dems claim the repubs didn't have a health care plan, it's a complete lie, and in fact, the Dems PREVENTED health care reform in the previous 8 years?? What hypocrisy. And they want to GOVERNMENT TO RUN healthcare?

“Wher's dem turkey necks?”

Since: Dec 08

Palm Desert, CA

#21 Aug 31, 2009
What this story does is validate what I had predicted on the healthcare issue. The industry will do whatever it takes to prevent ANY change form what exists today. I am not endorsing Obama's bill, but there is just too, too much power, money and influence in Washington to effect any change.

There needs to be changes in our current system, but with money grubbing legislators in Washington, I doubt it will ever happen.

“Wher's dem turkey necks?”

Since: Dec 08

Palm Desert, CA

#22 Aug 31, 2009
I was asked by several people to post this humorous piece about the healthcare. i wish I could take credit for it, but I can't.

Subject: New Health Care Package

Apparently the American Medical Association has weighed in on the president's new health care package....

The Allergists voted to scratch it, but the Dermatologists advised not to make any rash moves.

The Gastroenterologists had sort of a gut feeling about it, but the Neurologists thought the Administration had a lot of nerve.

The Obstetricians felt they were all laboring under a misconception. Ophthalmologists considered the idea shortsighted.

Pathologists yelled, "Over my dead body!" while the Pediatricians said,'Oh, Grow up!'

The Psychiatrists thought the whole idea was madness, while the Radiologists could see right through it.

Surgeons decided to wash their hands of the whole thing. The Internists thought it was a bitter pill to swallow, and the Plastic Surgeons said, "This puts a whole new face on the matter."

The Podiatrists thought it was a step forward, but the Urologists were pissed off at the whole idea.

The Anesthesiologists thought the whole idea was a gas, and the Cardiologists didn't have the heart to say no.

In the end, the Proctologists won out, leaving the entire decision up to the a.s.s.holes in Washington.

Smile!!!!

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