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BREAKING: Bill to reinstate death penalty introduced today

There are 153 comments on the Carlsbad Current-Argus story from Jan 24, 2011, titled BREAKING: Bill to reinstate death penalty introduced today. In it, Carlsbad Current-Argus reports that:

State Rep. Dennis Kintigh today introduced a bill to reinstate the death penalty in New Mexico.

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“Eat me. I'm a Danish.”

Since: Dec 10

Las Cruces, New Mexico

#155 Feb 7, 2011
Shady Lady wrote:
You can take DNA from the dead. We do it all the time. If there was any chance someone was executed by mistake, and DNA would have proven that, it is unacceptable that we would not try to exonerate that person. No. There is no indication that anyone was ever executed by mistake.
That is simply BS. There have been many cases. But if you chose to ignore the facts then more power to you.

2 people in Texas last year were released from death row due to DNA evidence. It might pay to know the argument before you open your mouth.

And in case you need some help with simple logic, having the DNA of a dead man does not prove anyhitng unless the DNA of teh criminal was also collected to compare it to. So your whole rationale is flawed.

“Eat me. I'm a Danish.”

Since: Dec 10

Las Cruces, New Mexico

#156 Feb 7, 2011
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishme...

Not to say the death penalty is not needed. I wholly support it in some cases. But to say that it has never been used against an innocent is naieve and foolish. Our system is simply not that good.

Since: Dec 07

Clermont, Florida

#157 Feb 7, 2011
Sol Rebl wrote:
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...And in case you need some help with simple logic, having the DNA of a dead man does not prove anyhitng unless the DNA of teh criminal was also collected to compare it to. So your whole rationale is flawed.
Exactly right. You can keep a dead man's tooth, bone or blood and it proves nothing unless the perpetrator left some body fluids, hair, or other body parts at the scene of death.

And there's not a court in the nation that's going to bring this back to try to prove or disprove his innocence. It is assumed that he deserved the death penalty by that time. And the courts are so full and backed up, they don't have time and they're just flat not going to try to prove they caused the execution of an innocent person.
Seriously Now

Carlsbad, NM

#158 Feb 7, 2011
Shady Lady wrote:
You are referring to DNA testing before an exeution. There is not one example of anyone being put to death in error. Not one. None. So they all have the same resources available to them, and there has not been one proven Mistake. The authorities in Illinois need the vote of a particular group of people who just happenes to have more of them on death row then any other group. Corrupt Illinois politicians have used every opportunity ever to keep their hold on this group, including pretending they are all innocent.
There are numerous wrongful executions. To deny it is foolhardy.
http://www.crimemuseum.org/library/execution/...
Governor Bill Ritter just last month pardoned Joe Arridy. Arridy had been wrongfully convicted and EXECUTED. Ritter issued a full and UNCONDITIONAL pardon of Arridy for a murder that occurred in the 1930's. Read the pardon for yourself:
http://www.friendsofjoearridy.com/
More:
http://www.criminaljusticedegreesguide.com/fe...
http://truthinjustice.org/willingham.htm
http://allrss.com/wikipedia.php...
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/node/612
http://www.crimemagazine.com/wrongful-executi...
Open your eyes. In addition to the accounts of people wrongfully executed discussed in the URLs above, there have been over 300 convictions overturned by the Innocence Project in about 20 years. While most were not wrongfully convicted for death penalty cases, some were and that number shows how likely it is that someone can be wrongfully convicted. True, our system usually gets it right but with the death penalty there is little room for correction after execution.

Since: Dec 07

Clermont, Florida

#159 Feb 7, 2011
Thank you "Seriously Now" for the post! How sad...but good for Gov. Ritter!

I stand corrected saying that no one would take time to try to disprove a conviction. Thank God someone did!

“Eat me. I'm a Danish.”

Since: Dec 10

Las Cruces, New Mexico

#160 Feb 7, 2011
EXCELLENT POST SERIOUSLY!

I knew I had even heard about it in the news recently but didnt remember the name of the case or the state.

Usually some big mouth says they are right and does not support it at all. Then they challenge you to refute them. The burden is up to you to prove it lest their BS story will float. You put this gum flapper down with a perfect blow!

WELL DONE!
ancient one

Santa Fe, NM

#161 Feb 7, 2011
Did anyone of you ever watch the show on tv called, Rogue Justice, it is true and give many cases of innocent people who have been released from death row because they are innocent. Several have been executed and later proven innocent. Anyone who things procecutors don't lie and cases cant be rigged you better think again. Go one line and type in Tulia Texas and see what happened there about 10-12 years ago. No one was put on death row but many, many black folks were falsley arrested on drug charges tho no drugs or money were found. Only thru the efforts of a Baptist Preacher (who was white) was this ever exposed.
Shady Lady

United States

#162 Feb 7, 2011
B S. There is no proof that any one was wrongly executed. And that is why we have 10 years of appeals, so you can be released if you have been wrongly accused. You still haven't given me one name of a person executed by mistake.

“Eat me. I'm a Danish.”

Since: Dec 10

Las Cruces, New Mexico

#163 Feb 7, 2011
Shady Lady wrote:
B S. There is no proof that any one was wrongly executed. And that is why we have 10 years of appeals, so you can be released if you have been wrongly accused. You still haven't given me one name of a person executed by mistake.
Joe Arridy?

That was just ONE and JUST LAST MONTH. Do you not get it?
Shady Lady

United States

#164 Feb 7, 2011
Never heard of him. If there is a story there it should have made National News. It didn't. Let me guess why. You made it up. I'll google it, but it is probably a waste of my time.

“Eat me. I'm a Danish.”

Since: Dec 10

Las Cruces, New Mexico

#165 Feb 7, 2011
Shady Lady wrote:
Never heard of him. If there is a story there it should have made National News. It didn't. Let me guess why. You made it up. I'll google it, but it is probably a waste of my time.
Look up there at post #158 and click your right index finger. It made national news. Recent national news. You just must have missed it on FOX.

You aint the sharpest knife in the drawer sister. We both agree about the need for a death penalty though and that is the main issue anyway. With DNA nowdays we can provide even more assurance that we have the right man and the death penalty can be used with an added measure of confidence in some cases. But no matter how good it gets we are still going to convict an innocent man with regularity. And sooner or later we will execute one. It has happened and will probably happen again. We need to use the death penalty carefully and wisely. But we do need to use it.
st-joseph

Mayhill, NM

#166 Feb 12, 2011
Shady Lady wrote:
I will tell you what happens when we kill the murderer, he cannot do it again. There is no good reason to feed, and cloth some animal who chose to kill someone, or more then one for decades, when we can give him a shot, or hang him or form firing squad, and eliminate all thoes costs.
I agree, why do we as law obiding citizens have to end up paying the price for someone that has murdered a loved one. Why should we be paying money into the state to feed these horrific people. A life sentence here in New Mexico is about 30 years. If this peson commits a crime such as murder when he/she is 18 or younger they will only do about 80% of that time and then he/she will be let out back into society to murder again. This time maybe he will get away with murdering some innocent child or innocent person.Prison does not rehabilitate anyone, if anything this style in which the murderer is living in prison only gets worse. He/she learns more ways of getting away with a murder. Just think. This Person has grown accustomed to eating, breathing, speaking, for free. Why not murder again,living in prison,isn't so bad. They are fed, they are clothed, and they have free living quarters. While we are out here working earning a living and suppporting the people that have hurt our children or murdered our children... I am a mother who misses her son. He was murdered in 2008, for NO reason...
Storm Warning

De Forest, WI

#167 Feb 19, 2011
Shady Lady wrote:
I live in Illinois. I'll swap you your Governor for mine, and throw in the Lt. Governor for boot!!!
4 left wing reds, three jewish judes, 2 zionist hacks and a partridge in a pear tree,

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