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SCOTUS declare Obamacare a tax, Snoop Dogg and Bill Cosby dissent

There are 193 comments on the Washington Times story from Jun 30, 2012, titled SCOTUS declare Obamacare a tax, Snoop Dogg and Bill Cosby dissent. In it, Washington Times reports that:

LOS ANGELES , June 30, 2012 - As part of C-Span's "Road to the White House" series, we covered President Obama's most recent press conference since the Supreme Court's decision on the Affordable Care Act.

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“Move Over, Or Get Moved Over!”

Since: Jul 12

The End of The White Man

#213 Jul 8, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>I keep telling you son, don't swallow, that could be your brother.
Decrepit old cracka shut up!

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#214 Jul 8, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
Just 80,000 jobs added in June...which will be adjust downward next week quietly after the black bus is back in the garage.
Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4%...which means actually about 25% if you count all blacks out of work.
Lights go dim on another Obama energy project...the boy is consistent.
Dec. 2008 - 750,000 jobs lost.

July, 2012 - 80,000 jobs added.

See a difference Dumbo? Are you that stupid?

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#215 Jul 8, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to wake up. Obama's policies had outlandish riders added to the bills presented to congress. Plus Republicans did not filibuster for two years strait.
You fell for the bait and switch on the $250,000 thing. It affects small business too. It's going to put small businesses out of business. That's individual's jobs being lost, not just the business owner's.
Add to that the 21 new taxes on the middle class that are hidden in Obamacare.
Keep on preaching all hail Obama. You may get what you wish for.
It's you that needs to wake up - and stop believing the propoganda.

Republican fillibuters - record amount in U.S. history since 2009;

"Nearly 300 Bills Have Passed in House Since Current 111th Congress Took Office Nearly 14 Months Ago — Many With Broad Bipartisan Support — Only to be Tied Up by Unprecedented Brick Wall of Republican Filibusters in Senate; Minority Party Has No Constitutional Authority to Hold All Legislation Hostage by forcing 60-Vote ‘Super Majority’ in 100-Member Chamber"

http://blogs.alternet.org/skeeterbitesreport/...

http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/03/02/republic...

The GOP have made it their lifes mission to simply say no to anything, regardless of compromise. It is the sole fault of the republicans, making governing virtually impossible.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

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#216 Jul 8, 2012
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>It's you that needs to wake up - and stop believing the propoganda.

Republican fillibuters - record amount in U.S. history since 2009;

"Nearly 300 Bills Have Passed in House Since Current 111th Congress Took Office Nearly 14 Months Ago — Many With Broad Bipartisan Support — Only to be Tied Up by Unprecedented Brick Wall of Republican Filibusters in Senate; Minority Party Has No Constitutional Authority to Hold All Legislation Hostage by forcing 60-Vote ‘Super Majority’ in 100-Member Chamber"

http://blogs.alternet.org/skeeterbitesreport/...

http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/03/02/republic...

The GOP have made it their lifes mission to simply say no to anything, regardless of compromise. It is the sole fault of the republicans, making governing virtually impossible.
Go ahead and ignore the heart of my post, it makes it a lot easier for you to make your point.
The ability to filibuster is in place for a reason. With the riders and addendums attached to the bills it was necessary to avoid passing tangents that had nothing to do with the original bill. And the record number of filibusters might have something to do with the record number of shitty bills presented.

Since: Feb 07

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#217 Jul 8, 2012
Since you asked.
Tell CA that they are on their own with the high speed railroad,
We are still broke and they are still irresponsible.
Obamapocolypse Now

San Jose, CA

#218 Jul 11, 2012
It's all an illusion "Le Jimbo"!...Do you honestly think for a moment that this great nation, USA, is just another sinking boat?..Come on folk's, where's your FAITH that lies only in God who has truly blessed this nation and for those American citizens who doubt that we can and will as a great nation, USA, get back on track and these times of uncertaintly are just a reminder to each of us Americans that we should never take what God has richly blessed us with for granted. I'm a poor American citizen right now, but because we have rich folks whether greedy or not has never been the problem of our nation's woes, yet it's an illusion that the devil wants to instill in each of us to make us think that our great nation, USA, has to turn into a socialistic and selfish nation by giving us the notion that our US government has this so-called power to force us to accept Obamcare against our will is ludricrous or absurd. The United States didn't just become a stong nation easily and there's no way us US citizens are going to easily accept it to be destroyed by a minority of liberals and NWO freaks because the US is richly blessed with resources and the more we continue to believe that the more the US will continue to prevail as one great nation under God with liberty and justice for all. Don't let what you hear and see on TV discourage you or impair you to be the great American that you are. We just need to vote for a new president, and one with the skills and knowledge to lead us Americans. Romney 2012!
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus: The poor we will have with us always.......
Helping the poor is not the problem, we as individuals or as a country have always helped those less fortunate. My complaint is the process and people in our government that with their greed and low morals have actually created more poor than those left paying can pay for.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#219 Jul 11, 2012
Obamapocolypse Now wrote:
<quoted text>It's all an illusion "Le Jimbo"!...Do you honestly think for a moment that this great nation, USA, is just another sinking boat?..Come on folk's, where's your FAITH that lies only in God who has truly blessed this nation and for those American citizens who doubt that we can and will as a great nation, USA, get back on track and these times of uncertaintly are just a reminder to each of us Americans that we should never take what God has richly blessed us with for granted. I'm a poor American citizen right now, but because we have rich folks whether greedy or not has never been the problem of our nation's woes, yet it's an illusion that the devil wants to instill in each of us to make us think that our great nation, USA, has to turn into a socialistic and selfish nation by giving us the notion that our US government has this so-called power to force us to accept Obamcare against our will is ludricrous or absurd. The United States didn't just become a stong nation easily and there's no way us US citizens are going to easily accept it to be destroyed by a minority of liberals and NWO freaks because the US is richly blessed with resources and the more we continue to believe that the more the US will continue to prevail as one great nation under God with liberty and justice for all. Don't let what you hear and see on TV discourage you or impair you to be the great American that you are. We just need to vote for a new president, and one with the skills and knowledge to lead us Americans. Romney 2012!
People thinking America is invincible and that " it can't happen to us" is the reason it has gotten as bad as it has. America had better wake up and put their foot down. Liberalism and political correctness at the cost of security is destroying this country.
It CAN and WILL happen if We The People don't remind the government that they work for us, not the other way around.
Obamapocolypse Now

San Jose, CA

#220 Jul 11, 2012
In agreement "Prep-for-Dep". Those liberals and political corrective folk's in our great nation, USA, are working 24/7 like the devil himself to achieve destruction for our America if we just sit back, relax and allow it to happen then it is inevitably going to happen to us. For the most part alot of the liberals and political corrective folk's are obviously poor, resource wise and are constantly playing the so-called "victim" and blame our rich folks for having worked hard and smart to get where they got today. I have total respect for both the rich folk and the poor folk, but I will be the first to tell a poor folk like myself to think long and hard before he/she thinks our America is going to give in to all the liberalism and socialism that will ultimately destroy the USA. I'm awake and I'm a concerned American Citizen and taxpayer who cares passionately for for our country stands for and the GOP is on track with getting us Americans on the path to making our America the most blessed nation under God again with or without their support. I don't think Romney will be our so-called "Savior" of America, but Romney strikes me as someone who is not only materially wealthy, but richly blessed with the skills and the knowledge to lead our nation, USA, in the right direction. This Obamacare is tearing into our freedom to to choose what's right for us and we Americans don't need government dictating what we need or don't need. Romney 2012.
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
People thinking America is invincible and that " it can't happen to us" is the reason it has gotten as bad as it has. America had better wake up and put their foot down. Liberalism and political correctness at the cost of security is destroying this country.
It CAN and WILL happen if We The People don't remind the government that they work for us, not the other way around.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#221 Jul 12, 2012
Obamapocolypse Now wrote:
<quoted text>In agreement "Prep-for-Dep". Those liberals and political corrective folk's in our great nation, USA, are working 24/7 like the devil himself to achieve destruction for our America if we just sit back, relax and allow it to happen then it is inevitably going to happen to us. For the most part alot of the liberals and political corrective folk's are obviously poor, resource wise and are constantly playing the so-called "victim" and blame our rich folks for having worked hard and smart to get where they got today. I have total respect for both the rich folk and the poor folk, but I will be the first to tell a poor folk like myself to think long and hard before he/she thinks our America is going to give in to all the liberalism and socialism that will ultimately destroy the USA. I'm awake and I'm a concerned American Citizen and taxpayer who cares passionately for for our country stands for and the GOP is on track with getting us Americans on the path to making our America the most blessed nation under God again with or without their support. I don't think Romney will be our so-called "Savior" of America, but Romney strikes me as someone who is not only materially wealthy, but richly blessed with the skills and the knowledge to lead our nation, USA, in the right direction. This Obamacare is tearing into our freedom to to choose what's right for us and we Americans don't need government dictating what we need or don't need. Romney 2012.
Well said.
Obamapocolypse Now

San Jose, CA

#222 Jul 12, 2012
Thanks "Prep-for-Dep". Sometimes i don't feel i have the right words or thoughts to put into perspective before i state something in writing, but i'm going with what my heart is telling me to say to others and i'm no expert or someone who can change the world overnight, but i'm just another concerned American citizen who doesn't want to see our great nation, USA, go to hell. I'm also someone who agrees that actions speak louder than worlds, but on these message boards we have to continue to speak real loud and clear to others about the serverity of what's happening in our country, USA, and our actions will act out themselves to do what's right for our America loud and clear.
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said.
Anonymous

Franklin, TN

#223 Jul 14, 2012
eyeful wrote:
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Dingy-dong-dong!
LOL at reading the ACA in it's entirety! It's over 2,000 pages..I have a job! Have YOU read it??

I have browsed through many pages and the word "tax" is in there many, MANY times.

Here are other things I've noticed ...and I'm providing links straight from the horses mouth. Where is your proof this will be "free"??

First it's filled with a lot of conjecture like paragraph 4 ( http://www.healthcare.gov/law/resources/repor... )... a family of 4 making $33,000 probably doesn't have health insurance to begin with so I doubt they'll "save" .."up to" .."$2,300".

Here are some other interesting notes:

"Individual responsibility" - http://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/i/individu...

"Current Federal Poverty Level" from the US Dept of Health & Human Services - http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/11poverty.shtml

Here are some of the amendments to the bill for individual responsibility addressing the "penalty" and percentages in relation to the "poverty line" - http://www.healthcare.gov/law/resources/autho...

And then there is this that states "prices have not been established yet" - http://answers.healthcare.gov/categories/1801

And there is my 22 year old son who works in the food service industry who cannot afford health insurance (doesn't have it) and his employer doesn't offer it, he lives on his own, isn't in school right now ... AND he makes 200% over the "federal poverty line".($10,890 ...see link above)

Are you saying definitively, after YOU have read the ACA in its entirety, that many Americans just like my son are going to get FREE-FREE-FREE-FREE health care coverage?? Absolutely no cost to him personally?

If so, then please provide GOVERNMENT links that we can read and clear all of this up many of us who are doubtful.
Anonymous

Franklin, TN

#224 Jul 14, 2012
Frank Lee Plain wrote:
*cruel
Why do people hate "the rich"? And talk about their tax breaks so much? We ALL get tax breaks!

There there are misleading articles like this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/24/mitt...
This fuzzy math paragraph in particular: "The returns show that Mitt and Ann Romney, who are worth from $190 million to $250 million, earned $21.7 million in 2010 and paid a 13.9 percent tax rate, lower than that of a person earning $50,000. The total amount the Romneys paid in taxes in 2010 was about $3 million."

That is a comparison of an apple to an orange. They divided 3 million in taxes paid by 21.7 million in total money earned without divulging any deductions. THEN quoted the total tax rate percentage for someone making 50K with ZERO deductions. SHOW ME a person with the same size family as Romney's and their tax return and I guarantee they didn't pay over 13.9 percent themselves.

In fact, my 2007 tax return (married filing jointly)... total household income $52,700 ...effective tax rate 0%!!!!

I don't get the philosophy that if you make over a certain amount of money you need to pay a bigger percentage.

Can anyone explain why that is "fair", "balanced", "just".

What would be different about going to your job .. and you work stronger, harder, faster, etc ... and your employer wants you to do your work plus 20% of your co-workers jobs because your co-workers do not perform as well as you do?

Is the push for higher and higher tax rates for wealthier people a penalty for "being rich"? I make 50K so I should pay nothing or a small percent but you make millions so you should pay 3 or 4 times the tax percentage I do.

Can anyone really offer reasoning and logic for that perspective?

Since: Nov 08

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#225 Aug 11, 2012
Liberalandproud wrote:
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You frightwingers are so done. It's over! Even the SCOTUS is on Obama's side. Obama knows best. The Constitution is outdated and inherantly racist (as Ginsburg declared). She's sworn to uphold a document she believes is racist and outdated? LOL! You frightwingers haven't got a chance!
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