US rejects Crimea vote, warns Russia ...

US rejects Crimea vote, warns Russia on new moves

There are 555 comments on the NBC12 story from Mar 16, 2014, titled US rejects Crimea vote, warns Russia on new moves. In it, NBC12 reports that:

President Barack Obama told Russian President Vladimir Putin on Sunday that Crimea's vote to secede from Ukraine and join Russia "would never be recognized" by the United States, as he and other top U.S. officials warned Moscow against making further military moves toward southern and eastern Ukraine.

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boo ya

Virginia Beach, VA

#511 Apr 5, 2014
Stefan wrote:
How about a build up around the enclave of Kalingrad with a threat to hold a referendum there
Yes, according to Putin's logic, that should be returned to Germany......
Parvoda

Hernando, FL

#513 Apr 6, 2014
George wrote:
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Using Putins logic and expertise, Russia belongs to Mongolia
According to Putinlogic Russia belongs to Sweden, since Rurik from "Rus" somewhere in Scandinavia was the first to enslave them.

Lenin was a globalist with little use for Russia, while his murderous toad Stalin was a nationalist. WW2 was the "Great Patriotic War" and many of his projects fomented Russian nationalism where Lenin abhorred nationalism.

In 1940 Russia had a pretty poor reputation, having been beaten by Germany, Poland, and Finland - basically they were Hitler's junior military partner, only making territorial gains with his assistance. Their only real wins had been against Tartars and other Russians. Britain had beaten them as had the French.

Stalin pumped the image of Russia as a great warrior nation - a meme that lasted 4 decades before crapping out.

Putin is trying to revive that spectacular crap-out.

I personally applaud him in that effort - may he crap out even quicker than Stalinorama did.
It wouldn't surprise me if he has a Brandenburg complex, in which he lures the "fascists" into an invasion of Mother Russia, defeats them, and becomes the new liberator of Europe.

Since: Mar 14

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#514 Apr 6, 2014
Parvoda wrote:
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According to Putinlogic Russia belongs to Sweden, since Rurik from "Rus" somewhere in Scandinavia was the first to enslave them.
Lenin was a globalist with little use for Russia, while his murderous toad Stalin was a nationalist. WW2 was the "Great Patriotic War" and many of his projects fomented Russian nationalism where Lenin abhorred nationalism.
In 1940 Russia had a pretty poor reputation, having been beaten by Germany, Poland, and Finland - basically they were Hitler's junior military partner, only making territorial gains with his assistance. Their only real wins had been against Tartars and other Russians. Britain had beaten them as had the French.
Stalin pumped the image of Russia as a great warrior nation - a meme that lasted 4 decades before crapping out.
Putin is trying to revive that spectacular crap-out.
I personally applaud him in that effort - may he crap out even quicker than Stalinorama did.
It wouldn't surprise me if he has a Brandenburg complex, in which he lures the "fascists" into an invasion of Mother Russia, defeats them, and becomes the new liberator of Europe.
Oh dear, looks like you 're suffering from a bad case of Oedipus complex.
Parvoda

Hernando, FL

#515 Apr 6, 2014
hey - that might be why they call it "Mother Russia".....

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#516 Apr 6, 2014
Dajokerman wrote:
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Thank you, you know it just happens naturally. The tragic thing is that I can never hope to accomplish the joke that is Russia and the Russian people.
.

Yes, people say that, after a good bashing at Russian hands,

it's understandable, to make themselves feel better. Hehehehe.
The True Story

Toronto, Canada

#517 Apr 6, 2014
You people are really imaginative!!! No European invader ever beat Russians. You all know that. Russians chased French back all over to Paris; and they chased Germans back to Berlin. And Rssians never needed American help!!!

Also, if you were such winners over Russia, you would feel good; and would not spew such a poison against Russia. You spew poison, and imagine winnings over Russia, as it is the only way you could compete with Russia: in imagination, and in virtual world, but not in the real world.
The True Story

Toronto, Canada

#518 Apr 6, 2014
Dajokerman wrote:
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Who wins nuclear wars?.....No one.

So you see it's really not that hard to figure out. Russia is a weak region power that just happens to have a lot nukes that is it's only means of defense against America or NATO. It's really a rather crappy deal for them, either they get stomped by America or NATO or even the Chinese or blast the world back to the stone age.

Raw deal Russia has.
Raw deal the World has!!!

If you had more thinking ability you would realize that blasing the world back to the stone age is equally bad for the world, as it is for Russa!!!
George

Red Deer, Canada

#519 Apr 6, 2014
Dimitri100 wrote:
<quoted text>.
Well well, why don't you substitute your name for ...The Joke...it would suit you,
you do tell a good joke. Hehehehe.
Because then it would be too confusing to a retard like you
George

Red Deer, Canada

#520 Apr 6, 2014
Parvoda wrote:
<quoted text>
According to Putinlogic Russia belongs to Sweden, since Rurik from "Rus" somewhere in Scandinavia was the first to enslave them.
Lenin was a globalist with little use for Russia, while his murderous toad Stalin was a nationalist. WW2 was the "Great Patriotic War" and many of his projects fomented Russian nationalism where Lenin abhorred nationalism.
In 1940 Russia had a pretty poor reputation, having been beaten by Germany, Poland, and Finland - basically they were Hitler's junior military partner, only making territorial gains with his assistance. Their only real wins had been against Tartars and other Russians. Britain had beaten them as had the French.
Stalin pumped the image of Russia as a great warrior nation - a meme that lasted 4 decades before crapping out.
Putin is trying to revive that spectacular crap-out.
I personally applaud him in that effort - may he crap out even quicker than Stalinorama did.
It wouldn't surprise me if he has a Brandenburg complex, in which he lures the "fascists" into an invasion of Mother Russia, defeats them, and becomes the new liberator of Europe.
That would explain all the blonds in Russia, hmmmmm, maybe a referendum is needed in Moscow to straighten things up.
OGPU

Hernando, FL

#521 Apr 6, 2014
The True Story - right out of Stalln's behind.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#522 Apr 6, 2014
George wrote:
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Because then it would be too confusing to a retard like you
.

It's not like jackassgeorge to be talking bollocks. Hehehehe.

“Smart@ss”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#523 Apr 6, 2014
The True Story wrote:
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Raw deal the World has!!!
If you had more thinking ability you would realize that blasing the world back to the stone age is equally bad for the world, as it is for Russa!!!
????? I Think you failed to understand my post, where in my post did I say that blasting the world back to the stone age is a good thing? I believe I made it very clear that no one "wins" nuclear wars, and I believe that anyone with a high school level of education understands when I mean no one I mean the entirety of the human race doesn't "win"

“Smart@ss”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#524 Apr 6, 2014
Dimitri100 wrote:
<quoted text>.
Yes, people say that, after a good bashing at Russian hands,
it's understandable, to make themselves feel better. Hehehehe.
Aw, that's so cute. You believe that Russian hands can survive hitting anything but thin air.

It's OK bro, being a weak people isn't all bad, like I said just pretend to be Polish, most Americans can't tell the difference and at least you would have a history to be proud of.

“Smart@ss”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#525 Apr 6, 2014
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The True Story wrote:
You people are really imaginative!!! No European invader ever beat Russians. You all know that. Russians chased French back all over to Paris; and they chased Germans back to Berlin. And Rssians never needed American help!!!
Also, if you were such winners over Russia, you would feel good; and would not spew such a poison against Russia. You spew poison, and imagine winnings over Russia, as it is the only way you could compete with Russia: in imagination, and in virtual world, but not in the real world.
Haha.... really? Defeating a starving, frozen and sick french army after that army was kicking the snot out of the Russian army is hardly something to be proud of.

And the Russians couldn't even defeat a starving, frozen and sick German forces without American help. Georgy Zhukov himself said that without American help USSR wouldn't be able to continue the war.

The tragic reality is that people like yourself actually believe that Russia or Russians are a strong people, yet nothing in the entirety of their history proves this true.
hahaha

Laurinburg, NC

#526 Apr 6, 2014
Dajokerman wrote:
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Yes, I not only believe, I know they would win, I Think I have said that repeatedly over the course of this discussion, perhaps you lack reading comprehension, But when someone types that America can win alone or NATO all together would steam roll Russia, it means that America can win alone and NATO can steam roll Russia.
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Funny I don't remember Iraq being a problem.... part 1 or part 2.
You claim to be a combat strategist but haven't a clue how the Vietnam war was fought?
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Hahaha... you point to Iraq and Afghanistan as an example of conventinal warfare...hahaha... you really have no idea what you are talking about do you?
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Actually they are, I have met them on numerous occasion during joint exercises with Russia, and they were the better soldiers in their army, just jogging with them was a laugh, but they are good guys, they make their lack of fitness a laugh and their lack of marksmanship would never pass basic.
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Actually it has, you aren't aware of it because you aren't a military strategist like you claim you are.
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See another example that you have no idea what you are talking about, Any nukes that Russia uses America and/or NATO forces would use silly goose and we have already talk about this, when someone, anyone uses a nuke then it becomes a nuclear war, and no one wins those.
Well you think Russia will win.
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Riiiiiiiiiight, because it was Russia's nukes that prevented the west from doing anything in Georgia and not the fact that we don't care that much over a couple miles of land in the middle of nowhere.
I guess we were so afraid of those nukes when we armed the Afghan resistance during the soviet invasion and issued an wheat embargo against the USSR and Carter of all presidents ordered, not asked but ordered, Russia not to go into another nation or the USSR would face the full power of the USA including our nuclear weapons.
Yeah, the Russians got the idea of going any further out of their heads real quick.
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I have to agree, because USA or NATO wouldn't want to wipe a nation like Russia off the face of the earth over some silly thing like them acting like they are important to the world stage.
america cannot even fix its damn infastructure right now. its leaders have lower approval then AIDS. there people are tired of war. there army is being downsized and they whould need a loan from china just to do it. europe is in even worse shape. but i gotta admit your rant is pretty funny for a guy stoned off his ass with no connection to reality.
CDC

United States

#527 Apr 6, 2014
With neo-nazis breeding like little germs in Washington's petri dish, somebody better do something right quick.

If Russia has to clean out this scum, so be it.

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“Smart@ss”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#528 Apr 6, 2014
hahaha wrote:
<quoted text> america cannot even fix its damn infastructure right now. its leaders have lower approval then AIDS. there people are tired of war. there army is being downsized and they whould need a loan from china just to do it. europe is in even worse shape. but i gotta admit your rant is pretty funny for a guy stoned off his ass with no connection to reality.
It's OK Joey.

Sometimes dealing with the cold reality of the present is hard to deal with. But don't fear, America or NATO has no desire to wipe Russia off the map, the Russian people aren't bad people, just their leaders and it's hard to fault Russians for allowing their lives to be tramped by the ruling class in Russia, they are used to being stepped on by powerful men.
blasphemer alert

United States

#529 Apr 6, 2014
Good God, is that Jesus saluting Hitler in your icon?

Figures.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#530 Apr 6, 2014
Does Russia have more troops than NATO...No.
ANSWER__WHAT makes one think NATO having more troops would win--this is proven in Vietnam, Iraq ,Afghanistan. Yet Russia can come up with more troops if needed, like to Hitler in WW2.

Does Russia have more troops than America...No.
ANSWER__Russia can come up with more troops TO BEAT US if needed, like to Hitler in WW2.

Does Russia have better equipment than NATO...No
ANSWER__New technology is enhancing on the planet that Russia is producing better equipment, so do China and North Korea these days.
NATO and US having big armory and equipment lost to Vietnam, Iraq and are doing poorly and worst than Russia did in Afghanistan .

Does Russia have better equipment than America...No
ANSWER__New technology is enhancing on the planet that Russia is producing better equipment, so do China and North Korea these days.
US is already the loser proven by facts from the past and no match by saying the use of better equipment.

Can the Russian military defend it's self against NATO forces...No
ANSWER__Russia defeated Hitler -Germany which was a better military than US and Germany could have crushed whole Europe (bigger than NATO) if Russia would not fight Hitler-Germany --then US would have been crushed by Nazi-Germany . In other words, US could not fight Hitler Germany alone and win in WW2, but Russia could.

Can the Russian military defend it's self against American forces...No
ANSWER__If Russia could beat Hitler-Germany alone while US could not, Russia could beat US and NATO.

Due to the lack of ability to defend Russia through the Russian military will Putin run scared to Russia's nukes to prevent the onslaught coming to his nation...Yes.
ANSWER__Yes, Russia having the best and most number of nuke missiles, would use nukes if necessary.

Is Nuclear weapons the only way Russia can hope to prevent their nation from being overrun...Yes.
ANSWER__Yes, If US and NATO ask for their destruction

Will NATO use Nuclear weapons if used on their forces...Yes.
ANSWER__Yes, Russia could use nukes If US and NATO ask for their destruction

Will America use Nuclear weapons if used on their forces... Yes.
ANSWER__Yes, Russia could use nukes If US asks for its own destruction

Does a war become a Nuclear war when one side or the other uses Nuclear weapons?... Yes.
ANSWER__ Who knows? Yes, Russia could use nukes If US and NATO ask for their destruction

Who wins nuclear wars?.....No one.
ANSWER__Yes, Russia could use nukes If US and NATO ask for.
The setting of large land mass and population spread would make Russia a better winner when US would be entirely be wiped out.

What the unrealistic US nightmares come about by speaking not from true facts which are already KNOWN from the past, as simple and real as they are ?
blasphemer alert

United States

#531 Apr 6, 2014
LMAO!

Look at the stupid topics Dajoker haunts: Another nut job championing neo-nazi juntas in Ukraine.

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