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Barack Obama isn't the first president to wait until the Senate's back is turned to put people into important posts.

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Chicago Hater

San Antonio, TX

#1 Jan 30, 2013
Actually, Chicago Tribune, Obama is the first president to wait until the "Senate's back is turned" to put people into important posts. No president before him ever made appointments without Senate consent while the Senate was in session. You lie to protect your unlawful knicker King.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#3 Jan 30, 2013
Obama isn't the first, George Bush appointed Charles Pickering, a Mississippi White Supremist to the Appeals Court during a recess appointment. "Pickering, Active in the early 1960s in the Democratic Party, Pickering switched affiliation in 1964 to the Mississippi Republican Party. He said at the time that "the people of [Mississippi] were heaped with humiliation and embarrassment at the Democratic Convention" in Atlantic City, New Jersey, after the national party seated two civil rights activists from the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party with the all-white delegation that Pickering had supported.

Bush also appointed John Bolton to the United Nation Ambassador post during a recess appointment.

So lets not blow this into some exaggerated practice. This has been a natural order of doing business over several Administrations.

Anyone that tells you differently doesn't know anything about American Government or politics.
Chicago Hater

San Antonio, TX

#4 Jan 30, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Obama isn't the first, George Bush appointed Charles Pickering, a Mississippi White Supremist to the Appeals Court during a recess appointment. "Pickering, Active in the early 1960s in the Democratic Party, Pickering switched affiliation in 1964 to the Mississippi Republican Party. He said at the time that "the people of [Mississippi] were heaped with humiliation and embarrassment at the Democratic Convention" in Atlantic City, New Jersey, after the national party seated two civil rights activists from the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party with the all-white delegation that Pickering had supported.
Bush also appointed John Bolton to the United Nation Ambassador post during a recess appointment.
So lets not blow this into some exaggerated practice. This has been a natural order of doing business over several Administrations.
Anyone that tells you differently doesn't know anything about American Government or politics.
You admit those were recess appointments under Bush. Obama is in trouble because the Senate was not recessed and he made the appointments. You are a filthy liar!
Gravediggers

West Palm Beach, FL

#5 Jan 30, 2013
WHAT?!!!

The Perfect President, never makes mistakes, and the former college law "professor" - not Perfect President Obama was an adjunct instructor- made a LEGAL mistake!

NO, it's not true. PResident Obama is perfect.

President Obama NEVER makes mistakes!
senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#6 Jan 30, 2013
Gravediggers wrote:
WHAT?!!!
The Perfect President, never makes mistakes, and the former college law "professor" - not Perfect President Obama was an adjunct instructor- made a LEGAL mistake!
NO, it's not true. PResident Obama is perfect.
President Obama NEVER makes mistakes!
The Obama Messiah made a mistake?? Not Obama - Hillary done it.

“Moderately yours....”

Since: Aug 12

Buffalo, NY

#7 Jan 30, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Obama isn't the first, George Bush appointed Charles Pickering, a Mississippi White Supremist to the Appeals Court during a recess appointment. "Pickering, Active in the early 1960s in the Democratic Party, Pickering switched affiliation in 1964 to the Mississippi Republican Party. He said at the time that "the people of [Mississippi] were heaped with humiliation and embarrassment at the Democratic Convention" in Atlantic City, New Jersey, after the national party seated two civil rights activists from the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party with the all-white delegation that Pickering had supported.
Bush also appointed John Bolton to the United Nation Ambassador post during a recess appointment.
So lets not blow this into some exaggerated practice. This has been a natural order of doing business over several Administrations.
Anyone that tells you differently doesn't know anything about American Government or politics.
damm right
anyone who claim that this approach had never occured before this President.
Is clearly not taking the two minutes required to find the facts.
Why let a dumb little thing like a fact stand in the way of a political cheap shot

“So long to you, Righties”

Since: Jan 12

keep suckin' and whiffin'!

#8 Jan 30, 2013
Chicago Hater wrote:
Actually, Chicago Tribune, Obama is the first president to wait until the "Senate's back is turned" to put people into important posts. No president before him ever made appointments without Senate consent while the Senate was in session. You lie to protect your unlawful knicker King.
Actually, for Congress to use subterfuge to pretend to be "in session" in order to block perfectly legal recess appointments is itself dishonest and unConstitutional, and hopefully the USSC will reach the same decision later this year when the case comes before them.

We know who the tricky ones are here, and Obama isn't one of them.

“So long to you, Righties”

Since: Jan 12

keep suckin' and whiffin'!

#9 Jan 30, 2013
Gravediggers wrote:
WHAT?!!!
The Perfect President, never makes mistakes, and the former college law "professor" - not Perfect President Obama was an adjunct instructor- made a LEGAL mistake!
NO, it's not true. PResident Obama is perfect.
President Obama NEVER makes mistakes!
Mindless partisan babble, safe to ignore.
Eric Gusterson

Newport News, VA

#10 Jan 30, 2013
Chicago Hater wrote:
<quoted text>
You admit those were recess appointments under Bush. Obama is in trouble because the Senate was not recessed and he made the appointments. You are a filthy liar!
The Democrats performed the same scheme, gaveling in the Senate every few days over a holiday break, and Bush appointed Pickering and Bolton into their resprective positions on on the Appeals Court and the other at the UN Post.

How is there a difference?

“Obama Shames the USA”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#11 Jan 30, 2013
Just think. If it were up to liberal idiots, Al Gore would have been president.

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CLEVER GLOBO-COMMUNISTS & THEIR USEFUL LIBERAL IDIOTS
Aria

United States

#12 Jan 30, 2013
Bush never made an appointment while the Senate was in session. Period!
Chicago Hater

San Antonio, TX

#13 Jan 31, 2013
Eric Gusterson wrote:
<quoted text>
The Democrats performed the same scheme, gaveling in the Senate every few days over a holiday break, and Bush appointed Pickering and Bolton into their resprective positions on on the Appeals Court and the other at the UN Post.
How is there a difference?
The difference is you're a goddamned liar. Bush never made any appointments while the Senate was in session. Even after the Democratic Senate passed their bullshit rule on gaveling in during recess. He respected the Constitution. Obama does not.

“So long to you, Righties”

Since: Jan 12

keep suckin' and whiffin'!

#14 Jan 31, 2013
Eric Gusterson wrote:
<quoted text>
The Democrats performed the same scheme, gaveling in the Senate every few days over a holiday break, and Bush appointed Pickering and Bolton into their resprective positions on on the Appeals Court and the other at the UN Post.
How is there a difference?
There isn't. This is pure hypocrisy aided and abetted by the courts. Hopefully the USSC will overturn, though I'm not holding my breath. At least 2 of them will vote to uphold.

“So long to you, Righties”

Since: Jan 12

keep suckin' and whiffin'!

#15 Jan 31, 2013
Ninthman wrote:
Just think. If it were up to liberal idiots, Al Gore would have been president.
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CLEVER GLOBO-COMMUNISTS & THEIR USEFUL LIBERAL IDIOTS
Actually, he WAS voted President by the majority of Americans. Globo-Fascists and their Useful Right-Wing Idiots pressured the Supreme Court into voting Bush in, instead.

Alas for America.

“So long to you, Righties”

Since: Jan 12

keep suckin' and whiffin'!

#16 Jan 31, 2013
Aria wrote:
Bush never made an appointment while the Senate was in session. Period!
Neither did Obama, since the Senate wasn't really in session.

“So long to you, Righties”

Since: Jan 12

keep suckin' and whiffin'!

#17 Jan 31, 2013
Both parties are hypocritical about recess appointments, which were put in the Constitution to make it possible to have someone in a job during the often long periods between Senate sessions caused, in those days, by long, slow travel times to Washington.

But this is worse than ever now, due to partisanship and end-runs around 'controversial' oappointments...note the WSJ's hypocrisy about the current situation:

"The Wall Street Journal regularly supported President Bush’s right to use the recess appointments in 2005, saying:'Mr. Bush now faces crocodile shouts of outrage for having bypassed the Senate, but the appointment is an entirely appropriate use of his constitutional authority to staff the government.'

Yet when President Obama utilized it, they coined it Contempt For Congress, writing:'Eager to pick a fight with Congress as part of his re-election campaign, Mr. Obama did the Constitutional equivalent of sticking a thumb in its eye and hitting below the belt. He installed Richard Cordray as the first chief of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and named three new members to the National Labor Relations Board. He did so even though the Senate was in pro forma session after the new Congress convened this week.' "

Fake pro-forma sessions, unnecessary wrangling, and obstructionism should ALL end, and people should be nominated and appointed without so much fuss. This is why we can't get anything done in Washington any more.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#18 Jan 31, 2013
Chicago Hater wrote:
<quoted text>
The difference is you're a goddamned liar. Bush never made any appointments while the Senate was in session. Even after the Democratic Senate passed their bullshit rule on gaveling in during recess. He respected the Constitution. Obama does not.
Oh please, how would Pickering have ever been confirmed and appointed to the Federal Appeals Court,or John Bolton to Ambassador to the United Nations..... ROFLMAO
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#19 Jan 31, 2013
Chicago Hater wrote:
<quoted text>
The difference is you're a goddamned liar. Bush never made any appointments while the Senate was in session. Even after the Democratic Senate passed their bullshit rule on gaveling in during recess. He respected the Constitution. Obama does not.
Pickering had been denied a Judgeship by the Senate for several years before Bush Appointment over a Holiday Weekend, as a Matter of fact, wasn't it the Mississippi Segregation, Trent Lott who was forced to resign as Senate Majority Leader because of insensitive racial rhetoric he spewed in the senate over the rejection of Charles Pickering's nomination in the Senate Judicial Committee?

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