Study: Illegal immigrants having more kids in US

[make the fence electric]

cliche_excuses wrote:

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While American Moms are killing their babies everyday with their great morals and principles. And I'm not talking about abortion. There is not one day that goes by that you don't hear about some parent here in America killing their children. You call that civilized? But it's Ok, their American, right?

I guess you call cutting off peoples heads,like they do in mexico,all in the name of drug money.you call that civilized?most of the babies killed in america are by their mexican parents.just because it is in america,that doesnt make them american.Take a trip down to mexico and see what happens to little babies down there.I would compare the u.s. to third world mexico anyday.

[Ms Taletha]

Justice1124 wrote:

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No ethics? No shame? No morals? You just called an INNOCENT human being a parasite! A child could never be blamed for the poor choices their parents make. Before you start pointing fingers take a look at yourself!

Parents who use their children to obtain welfare benefits for themselves are beneath contempt!

[Steve]

leave CA wrote:

And the people in California wonder why many of us U.S. citizen are leaving that State.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Those who can't afford to stay will leave. The rest of us will stay and rid our state of unlawful trespassers. Once that is done, illegals will begin leaving ALL the states in the US.

It's really not good for the illegals for anyone to leave, because there goes people who were paying the illegals bills. The more taxpayers that leave the state, the broker the state becomes, and less money for illegals to mooch off of.

As more and more of the illegals benefits are cut, due to the lack of taxpayers to foot the bill, they will begin to starve and become homeless. Oh well!

[cliche_excuses]

seedtick wrote:

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When you say "we" you must have a mouse in your pocket. It is for sure that you don't speak for the rest of us. We understand the problems in this country...but they are our problems. We don't need illegal aliens bringing in more problems and adding to our burden. This discussion is about them and the problems they cause.

Yes, they do cause problems. But the way people state it here, Mexicans are the ONLY people that have no morals or ethics. And that is WRONG to say. I don't like illegals any better than you do. But illegals are of many races, not just Mexicans.

[seedtick]

cliche_excuses wrote:

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Yes, they do cause problems. But the way people state it here, Mexicans are the ONLY people that have no morals or ethics. And that is WRONG to say. I don't like illegals any better than you do. But illegals are of many races, not just Mexicans.

Well, you have to understand that the only illegal aliens many folks encounter are Mexican nationals. That is understandable since about 70% of all illegal aliens in our country are Mexican nationals. And that is because of the common border the two countries share...and the poor conditions that many Mexicans live with in Mexico. If I were a poor Mexican and could come here and work I probably would rather than see my family suffer. But, unlike most of the illegals who come here, I would try to do legally.
For several years I lived in South Texas and leased hunting property there for many years. The migrant workers would cross the border within sight of my first lease. But they also went back home at the same place when the work was over. We used to leave water and food out for them so they would not break into our buildings. They were respectful of our property and we never bothered them. That has all changed now. The people who come have little or no respect for anything. Many of them are carrying drugs to pay for their trip North. If you happen upon them on some remote sendero you just might get killed to prevent you reporting them. I dare say that half of those who come now have no interest in working and earning an honest living. They are coming either to join relatives already here or to pursue some criminal activity....human trafficing, drug related activity, or gang activity..or to escape Mexican justice. In any case they are not trustworthy.

[littleoleladyfro mPasadena]

Ms Taletha wrote:

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Parents who use their children to obtain welfare benefits for themselves are beneath contempt!

I agree. You should have children to love and be prepared to take care of...not have them just to increase your welfare benefits. People that are responsible simply do not do this. We, as the taxpayers, have to pay for their irresponsiblity.

[Lady Justice Wins]

littleoleladyfromPasadena wrote:

<quoted text>I agree. You should have children to love and be prepared to take care of...not have them just to increase your welfare benefits. People that are responsible simply do not do this. We, as the taxpayers, have to pay for their irresponsiblity.

How very true. Too often the women have 3/4/5 children with 3/4/5 different fathers. They lack the means and knowledge to properly care for their children. These women should be required to have their tubes tied (at their expense).

The minute a woman has an addiction and has babies that are suffering as a result of her addiction, she needs to be neutered for good. An addict baby should not have to live a life of hell because of a sick/irresponsible woman, baby machine. Usually the women are too lazy to take precautions to avoid pregnancy.

[Saynototheleft]

WE the CITIZENS of the United States of America, having suffered untold hundreds of thousands of cases of injury and death by accident, disease, assaults, and murder at the hands of those who should not be here, hold the individuals who constitute the three branches of the Federal Government guilty of Negligent Homicide and otherwise guilty and responsible for the crimes committed and the other ill effects borne against us by the invaders and colonizers passively allowed across our borders into the States of the Union by non-enforcement of the Law of the Land:
1. The Federal Government successfully defends the borders and spends billions of dollars in the defense of foreign countries such as South Korea, Germany, and Japan. In addition, it spends billions upon billions of dollars in the attempt to secure the borders of other countries where war now wages but CONTINUES to allow our own borders to be subject to invasion by illegal aliens among whom have been enemy agents who have wreaked havoc and killed thousands of Americans in the recent past.
2. The Federal Government goes to great extremes to destroy home-grown terrorist organizations yet allows those who come here illegally, who do not have the rights of CITIZENS, to incite rebellion and other criminal behavior and to clog our streets and highways with their protesters.
3. The Federal Government has declared a "War on Drugs" yet allows our porous borders to be routinely infiltrated by those bringing in deadly drugs like crack cocaine, heroin, and methamphetamine.
4. The Federal Government spends billions each year with its various agencies to fight crime yet allows serial and mass murderers, rapists, child molesters, drug dealers, gang members, and terrorists to cross the border unchecked so that they may prey upon CITIZENS at will. The illegal aliens who do not disappear using their fraudulent identifications swell our prisons at an alarming rate.

[Saynototheleft]

5. The Federal Government extorts billions of dollars from the taxpayers for the upkeep and safety of our interstate highway infrastructure yet, through its negligence, has allowed illegal aliens with no insurance, little driving skill nor experience, and, in many cases, with no driver's licenses, to take to the road, maiming and killing our CITIZENS and increasing the insurance rates for everyone.
6. The Federal Government employs the Internal Revenue Service to routinely and in violation of our basic God-given rights to seize our property without due process and otherwise intimidate CITIZENS, reducing us to tax-slaves, yet turns a blind eye to the cases of fraud and other non-compliance with tax laws by those who are here illegally.
7. The Federal Government holds CITIZENS to very high standards of conduct and enforces compliance with all laws, yet routinely ignores the enforcement of those laws when each applicant and his employer are guilty of multiple felonies and misdemeanors in the process of employing illegal aliens. Furthermore, any granting of amnesty or work visas will be rewarding the criminal behavior of illegal alien invaders. The recent vote by the traitors in the U.S. Senate to ignore the felonious acts of illegal aliens' use of false identification and fraudulent documents is an insult to every CITIZEN who endeavors to follow the Law of the Land.

[Saynototheleft]

8. The Federal Government consumes large amounts of our tax money in the pursuit of public health yet allows our porous borders to be routinely crossed by those who have not been screened for deadly diseases such as tuberculosis, hepatitis, venereal diseases, AIDS, and other widespread contagions that occur in the third world population with little or no public health services. Those most affected by these disease are those most vulnerable in our society: the very young and the very old. The Federal government, through its negligence has handed out thousands of death sentences to American CITIZENS.
9. The Federal Government each year spends billions on medical care for the poor and elderly yet allows non-paying illegal aliens to bankrupt hospitals, forcing the closure of many which, in turn, greatly endangers the health and lives of CITIZENS by decreasing the availability of health care in many neighborhoods and increasing the cost of medical services and insurance rates where that care is still available.
10. The Federal Government has instituted drastic, unconstitutional laws in the name of defending our environment yet allows illegal aliens to swell our population at a rate faster than the growth of China which causes our cities to grow at an unprecedented rate devouring farmlands and further polluting our rivers and streams.
11. The Federal Government decries discrimination yet allows illegal aliens to compete unfairly at all levels for the jobs of citizens in the workplace. Officials, including the President, declare that the illegal aliens are "doing the work Americans won't do" indicating the government's apparent belief in the illegal aliens' underclass status and their inability to better themselves. They thereby demonstrate their desire for a permanent underclass of servile people, the presence of which undermines the American tradition of resisting tyranny.

[Saynototheleft]

12. The Federal Government cites the law of supply and demand whenever there are sudden and drastic increases in the prices of basic necessities such as fuel and food yet floods the labor market with cheap foreign labor. The same law of supply and demand would, in a labor shortage, yield higher wages, better working conditions, increases in automation and technology, and increased benefits for those at the lowest end of the economic ladder who need them most of all.

13. The Federal Government requires that businesses pay taxes and otherwise provide for the benefits of employees yet, by allowing illegal aliens into this country, forces working men and women, through their taxes and through their additional sufferance of a multitude of detriments to their quality of life (such as increased crime and disease, crowded schools, and other factors listed in this declaration) to SUBSIDIZE large and small businesses and corporations who illegally hire illegal aliens. The Federal Government has brought a new slavery and unfair competition into this country and we CITIZENS all suffer for it.

14. The Federal Government tells us that the illegal aliens are good for our economy. Contrary to their declarations, we do not serve the economy--the economy serves us. Citizens suffer the consequences of massive numbers of unchecked, illegal aliens so that businesses can reap huge profits at the expense of working CITIZENS' jobs and taxes. Illegal aliens have been shown to be a net drain on our economy of nearly $100,000 for each of the twenty to thirty million of them. In addition, they send tens of billions of dollars out of our economy to their real homes each year. This cannot be good for the economy or our culture and is in direct violation of the Law of the Land.

15. The Federal Government spends billions in taxpayer dollars every year for education, some of which is used to teach the English language yet the children of our CITIZENS who need help in developing language skills cannot benefit when the money must go to teaching classes in foreign languages to the children of non-assimilated illegal aliens. Furthermore, CITIZENS are being discriminated against when being evaluated for hiring by potential employers due to their inability to speak Spanish despite English being the only traditional, common language of the United States.

16. The Federal Government introduces such draconian educational programs as "No Child Left Behind" yet allows the importation of workers with high educational backgrounds to displace or replace American CITIZENS in high paying jobs requiring highly technical training. These same imported workers bring their children who do not understand our language and customs which causes further distractions upon the learning of the CITIZENS and their children as well as threats to their health from disease.

[Saynototheleft]

17. The Federal Government's representatives have called repeatedly for fiscal responsibility and smaller central government but have left the impossible financial burdens imposed by the mass migration of illegal aliens to the local cities and states to shoulder. Their economies are failing because of this.

18. The U.S. Constitution authorizes Congress to "establish an uniform rule of naturalization" which precludes the legal possibility of their granting amnesty to any group of illegal aliens for any reason. The president only has the "power to grant reprieves and pardons for offences against the United States" yet he can perform no such deed when there is no legal status of conviction and the individuals who would have to be named continue to exist in a state of illegality according to the Law of the Land.

WE the CITIZENS who elected you, DEMAND that the laws be changed or, if already on the books, enforced, so that there will be military force used to achieve completely secure borders; so that there will be an end to ALL immigration; a stop to ALL visas; and a stop to the importation of ALL foreign workers, in both high and low technology jobs, until this emergency, this disaster of monumental proportions, is brought under control.

Mass deportations are PREFERRED to most immediately end the problem. However, short of that step, simply ENFORCING EXISTING LAWS against employers, government agencies and others so that jobs and social benefits disappear for those who are here illegally will accomplish the task. Without the incentives to stay here, through the process of attrition, illegal aliens will have to return to their homes and, we pray, make those countries better places to live through the process of revolution as we utilized here over 200 years ago.

WE the CITIZENS call for a WAR ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION by the Federal Government in order that our lives and the lives of our loved ones, our quality of life, and our livelihoods will be protected as they should be by the Federal Government properly performing its most basic duty: defending OUR borders and expelling the invaders.

[Saynototheleft]

The above was copied from the following web page

http://scfightsback.com/id2.html

I personally feel that the war should be taken to the streets and that anyone who stands in the way of all out war be treated as if committing an act of treason and shot. All ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who refuse to leave, SHOT DEAD.

[littleoleladyfro mPasadena]

Lady Justice Wins wrote:

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How very true. Too often the women have 3/4/5 children with 3/4/5 different fathers. They lack the means and knowledge to properly care for their children. These women should be required to have their tubes tied (at their expense).
The minute a woman has an addiction and has babies that are suffering as a result of her addiction, she needs to be neutered for good. An addict baby should not have to live a life of hell because of a sick/irresponsible woman, baby machine. Usually the women are too lazy to take precautions to avoid pregnancy.

I do not know why on earth the government has not done something about this. If people cannot afford to feed themselves, why do they persist in having more children? It is unfair to the taxpayers but mainly it is unfair to the children. No child deserves this. Children are the most precious commodity on earth and they should be treated as such. Not used by lazy parents who do not want to work...just sit around, have one baby after another and draw welfare.

[littleoleladyfro mPasadena]

seedtick wrote:

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Well, you have to understand that the only illegal aliens many folks encounter are Mexican nationals. That is understandable since about 70% of all illegal aliens in our country are Mexican nationals. And that is because of the common border the two countries share...and the poor conditions that many Mexicans live with in Mexico. If I were a poor Mexican and could come here and work I probably would rather than see my family suffer. But, unlike most of the illegals who come here, I would try to do legally.
For several years I lived in South Texas and leased hunting property there for many years. The migrant workers would cross the border within sight of my first lease. But they also went back home at the same place when the work was over. We used to leave water and food out for them so they would not break into our buildings. They were respectful of our property and we never bothered them. That has all changed now. The people who come have little or no respect for anything. Many of them are carrying drugs to pay for their trip North. If you happen upon them on some remote sendero you just might get killed to prevent you reporting them. I dare say that half of those who come now have no interest in working and earning an honest living. They are coming either to join relatives already here or to pursue some criminal activity....human trafficing, drug related activity, or gang activity..or to escape Mexican justice. In any case they are not trustworthy.

Years ago the ones coming across the border did not break the law and were respectfull of others. This has all changed. Most of the illegals in Texas have the mentality that we are living in their country. I would not be so against them if it wasn't for their attitude.

[Lady Justice Wins]

littleoleladyfromPasadena wrote:

<quoted text>I do not know why on earth the government has not done something about this. If people cannot afford to feed themselves, why do they persist in having more children? It is unfair to the taxpayers but mainly it is unfair to the children. No child deserves this. Children are the most precious commodity on earth and they should be treated as such. Not used by lazy parents who do not want to work...just sit around, have one baby after another and draw welfare.

So true, children are precious and deserve a good start in life. Goodness knows life is difficult enough. Of course the liberals would be the first ones screaming their heads off if the government neutered irresponsible baby making machines. Now the case of the man who dropped off 9 children under the Safe Haven Law, now having twins!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530268,00...

You just can't call someone like this a parent. Makes you sick.

[Lady Justice Wins]

littleoleladyfromPasadena wrote:

<quoted text>Years ago the ones coming across the border did not break the law and were respectfull of others. This has all changed. Most of the illegals in Texas have the mentality that we are living in their country. I would not be so against them if it wasn't for their attitude.

They come believing in ENTITLEMENT! That's the new wave of trash entering.

[Thats Funny]

Mexican birth control
http://www.resist.com/other/border_patrol.swf

[Blue Ray]

Lady Justice Wins wrote:

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They come believing in ENTITLEMENT! That's the new wave of trash entering.

...and they all vote democrat. That is why the current power structure wants more and more illegals to come in and have more and more children. Just means more votes to keep the privileged elite in power. Look at even Omama's aunt...living here illegally in government provided housing, she refuses to go back to Africa. By the way, what kind of nephew lets his poor little old Auntie live in the projects while he lives a life of luxury? Makes you wonder doesn't it?

[Blue Ray]

Lady Justice Wins wrote:

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So true, children are precious and deserve a good start in life. Goodness knows life is difficult enough. Of course the liberals would be the first ones screaming their heads off if the government neutered irresponsible baby making machines. Now the case of the man who dropped off 9 children under the Safe Haven Law, now having twins!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530268,00...
You just can't call someone like this a parent. Makes you sick.

Sadly...this guy is not an illegal alien. He is a homegrown creep taking advantage of those brilliant laws our government has passed over the years.
You just can't call someone like this a parent. Makes you sick.