Senators discuss comprehensive immigr...

Senators discuss comprehensive immigration changes

There are 19 comments on the Deseret News story from Nov 11, 2012, titled Senators discuss comprehensive immigration changes. In it, Deseret News reports that:

Two senators on opposite sides of the aisle are proposing comprehensive changes to the immigration laws that would include a pathway to citizenship for the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants now in the United States.

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Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#1 Nov 11, 2012
“What the federal government apparently didn’t take into account was that many of those 1.1 million would bring friends and relatives back to America to claim 5 years residence in the same fraudulent manner as those who came and went on a regular basis,” said Oltman.“That is one reason why the number of applications was three times higher than the original estimate.

“When the knowledge of fraud got out, there was a literal stampede of people coming across the border illegally to apply for amnesty and the government was quickly overwhelmed.

“Stoddard recalls that fraud was rampant in the application process. Estimates of application fraud ranged between 66 percent and 75 percent."

http://beforeitsnews.com/immigration/2011/12/...

If you think illegal aliens are a problem now, grant a amnesty and in 20 years it will be 10 fold. The 1986 amnesty didn't work and any now won't either.

Unless the government's goal is a North American Union/open borders or the UN agenda 21.
ronnie

Washington, UT

#2 Nov 11, 2012
If the only reason Chuck Schummer want's immigration reform is to get votes from Latino's then no no no, we need reform as Senator Graham mentions, close the border, don't let illegals go to the front of the line, make them learn English etc. but neither of them realize they are here for Americanization, they are here for money and entitlements. They may vote for Dems for freebies and fake the American dream, but they do not want to be American.....
Jake

Louisville, KY

#3 Nov 11, 2012
Ask a one of those call dreamers and you will find out that they are Americans and want to be part of this great country so don't right with your ass find out the truth first redneck
ronnie wrote:
If the only reason Chuck Schummer want's immigration reform is to get votes from Latino's then no no no, we need reform as Senator Graham mentions, close the border, don't let illegals go to the front of the line, make them learn English etc. but neither of them realize they are here for Americanization, they are here for money and entitlements. They may vote for Dems for freebies and fake the American dream, but they do not want to be American.....
no amnesty

United States

#4 Nov 12, 2012
Jake wrote:
Ask a one of those call dreamers and you will find out that they are Americans and want to be part of this great country so don't right with your ass find out the truth first redneck<quoted text>
Jake, you are a POS. How about making the dream act include the condition that yes you can stay because you are "so valuable" to this country. But your parents who broke the law and brought you over must self deport in order for you to qualify. I don't care if the dreamers are working on a cure for cancer, saved a policeman's life or got straight A's in high school, I want the lowlife wet [email protected] deported and so do millions of other Americans. You break the law you are scum not an immigrant. We are a nation of immigrants not a nation of liars, cheats and thieves.
fair one

Cape Coral, FL

#5 Nov 13, 2012
Obama is in payback stage. After doing nothing for illegal aliens for four years (although he "promised" in 2008) hispanics are now holding his feet to the fire. To legalize 20+ million (who really knows how many?) lawbreaking aliens is a slap in the face to every legal taxpaying citizen. Instead of focusing on jobs for the American citizen, Obama is awarding aliens. Think of the billions of dollars which have been spent to provide education , medical care, judicial services, incarceration, etc., etc., etc. for these invaders. Why are immigration laws not enforced? Why do elected officials pander to illegal aliens? Who speaks for the legal American citizen? Not Obama!

“Legals against Illegals!”

Since: Dec 11

Willing to stand and Fight!

#6 Nov 13, 2012
fair one wrote:
Obama is in payback stage. After doing nothing for illegal aliens for four years (although he "promised" in 2008) hispanics are now holding his feet to the fire. To legalize 20+ million (who really knows how many?) lawbreaking aliens is a slap in the face to every legal taxpaying citizen. Instead of focusing on jobs for the American citizen, Obama is awarding aliens. Think of the billions of dollars which have been spent to provide education , medical care, judicial services, incarceration, etc., etc., etc. for these invaders. Why are immigration laws not enforced? Why do elected officials pander to illegal aliens? Who speaks for the legal American citizen? Not Obama!
Good reason to enforce current immigration laws and get rid of Obama at same time!

Sign the petition to enforce immigration laws,Impeach Obama and more:http://americanmove.webs. com/thepage.htm
Too Bad

Ames, IA

#7 Nov 13, 2012
no amnesty wrote:
<quoted text>
Jake, you are a POS. How about making the dream act include the condition that yes you can stay because you are "so valuable" to this country. But your parents who broke the law and brought you over must self deport in order for you to qualify. I don't care if the dreamers are working on a cure for cancer, saved a policeman's life or got straight A's in high school, I want the lowlife wet [email protected] deported and so do millions of other Americans. You break the law you are scum not an immigrant. We are a nation of immigrants not a nation of liars, cheats and thieves.
You're a bigot.
I want all you toothless red necks out.
We are a nation of People, not inbred trailer trash.

“Legals against Illegals!”

Since: Dec 11

Willing to stand and Fight!

#8 Nov 13, 2012
Too Bad wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a bigot.
I want all you toothless red necks out.
We are a nation of People, not inbred trailer trash.
Yea we (Americans) are a nation of people that believe in following the laws of the land!
You illegals are a nation of people that believe it's ok to break our laws,demand entitlements you have no right to,refuse to assimilate and then expect us (Americans) to accept you!
Nope,not going to happen!

Sign petitions to enforce immigration laws,impeach Obama and more!
http://americanmove.webs.com/thepage.htm
Too Bad

Ames, IA

#9 Nov 13, 2012
DfwDude wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea we (Americans) are a nation of people that believe in following the laws of the land!
You illegals are a nation of people that believe it's ok to break our laws,demand entitlements you have no right to,refuse to assimilate and then expect us (Americans) to accept you!
Nope,not going to happen!
Sign petitions to enforce immigration laws,impeach Obama and more!
http://americanmove.webs.com/thepage.htm
Bigotry is sooooooo boring

“Legals against Illegals!”

Since: Dec 11

Willing to stand and Fight!

#10 Nov 13, 2012
Too Bad wrote:
<quoted text>
Bigotry is sooooooo boring
If wanting laws to be obeyed and enforced is being a bigot..then you,sis,are an idiot! Which is even more soooooo boring!!

Once again the racist,bigot etc. card is flashed by a moron of the day!
Good boy,you keep throwing out those overused (boring) cards....

(coming up next will be the throwing of insults to try and make me feel bad)(ho-hum....on to better things.....cya would not wanna be ya...boy!)
ahhahahahahahaha!
Too Bad

Ames, IA

#11 Nov 14, 2012
DfwDude wrote:
<quoted text>
If wanting laws to be obeyed and enforced is being a bigot..then you,sis,are an idiot! Which is even more soooooo boring!!
Once again the racist,bigot etc. card is flashed by a moron of the day!
Good boy,you keep throwing out those overused (boring) cards....
(coming up next will be the throwing of insults to try and make me feel bad)(ho-hum....on to better things.....cya would not wanna be ya...boy!)
ahhahahahahahaha!
You're still a noisey bigot.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#12 Nov 14, 2012
Jake wrote:
Ask a one of those call dreamers and you will find out that they are Americans and want to be part of this great country so don't right with your ass find out the truth first redneck<quoted text>
The truth is, they are Mexican citizens who want to jump ship. What makes you think that they won't jump ship again when a better deal comes along? They can't be trusted.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#13 Nov 14, 2012
Too Bad wrote:
<quoted text>
Bigotry is sooooooo boring
So is obeying laws and not having a passport and visa.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#14 Nov 14, 2012
There are 2 types of people in the world, those who obey laws and illegal aliens.
Too Bad

Ames, IA

#15 Nov 15, 2012
spytheweb wrote:
There are 2 types of people in the world, those who obey laws and illegal aliens.
That's it only 2 kinds of people?
Brilliantly simple view of the world.

I think there may be 3 kinds of people.
those who obey the law
Illegal aliens
anti-american business people who hire the illegals.

No jobs, no illegals. The solution is almost as simple as your view of the world.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#16 Nov 15, 2012
spytheweb wrote:
There are 2 types of people in the world, those who obey laws and illegal aliens.
Why did you forget to mention all the US ''citizens'' that hire those illegals?
ronnie

Saint George, UT

#17 Nov 15, 2012
Obama just hired 15 million extra illegals for votes, even when 23 million Americans are out of work. Jake, keep defending the lawbreakers until your job get's taken, your wage deflated, you baby sister or daughter raped, your son hit head on by an illegal driver, your best friend murdered. Those compliments might change a bit A-hole.
Too Bad

Ames, IA

#18 Nov 17, 2012
ronnie wrote:
Obama just hired 15 million extra illegals for votes, even when 23 million Americans are out of work. Jake, keep defending the lawbreakers until your job get's taken, your wage deflated, you baby sister or daughter raped, your son hit head on by an illegal driver, your best friend murdered. Those compliments might change a bit A-hole.
Everything in your post is completely made up, not even remotely true, and has been steeped in paranoia.
You're better off just locked in your bomb shelter the next 4 years.
nym8387

Brooklyn, NY

#19 Nov 18, 2012
Too Bad wrote:
<quoted text>
Everything in your post is completely made up, not even remotely true, and has been steeped in paranoia.
You're better off just locked in your bomb shelter the next 4 years.
Yeah too bad Obama will play Hispanics like violins again do you really belive he will pressure republicans into passing amnesty or that republicans will cave in? The time for such a bill to pass is now like today or sometime in December while democrats control congress. I guess Obama has a plan to pass amnesty during a republican controlled congress starting in January.lol.

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