Partisan fight over "fiscal cliff" will harm U.S. economy: Reuters poll

Nov 12, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Reuters

U.S. President Barack Obama delivers a statement on the U.S. ''Fiscal Cliff'' in the East Room of the White House as Vice President Joe Biden looks on in Washington, November 9, 2012.

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Amen Bro
vinnie aliwaaawaaa, Dec. 20, 2011:

I predict a Huge Blood bath in the democrat party come 2012

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conservative crapola wrote:
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vinnie aliwaaawaaa, Dec. 20, 2011:
I predict a Huge Blood bath in the democrat party come 2012
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YEP!!! Voter Fraud

Programmer Under Oath Admits Computers Rig Elections
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Barack Obama Inauguration Day, January 21st, 2013.

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I'm laughing at all of you miss guided people.

The CLIFF is coming even if tomorrow the Deficit is Gone! I've spent years in research, here's what your missing'

last year 63% of the TOTAL Federal budget were Fed checks written to individual that the US receives NO services from. SS checks were NOT included in that. Welfare is More then the cost of the war..

Last year 50.4% of U.S. births were minorities, 48% of all U.S. births in 2011 were paid by Medicaid

U.S. Census 2010 there will be 45 million kids turning the age of 18 by 2018 Over 10% of the existing pop. Where are they going to get Jobs..

Out of those 50.4% minority births in 2011, a little more then half will only have a H.S. diploma

Then apply the Gov site Bureau of Labor Statistics of who in the Labor Force Participation by educational attainment

"Labor Force Participation Rate" for a non H.S. diploma is only 46% Obviously many of the rest being NOT in the labor force will need some Gov assistance/housing to exist.

By the way Labor Force Participation rate is MORE important then the unemployment rates. When you read the unemployment rate going down the Labor Force Participation rate silently goes up faster

Things has changed in the last 10 years. For instance the Hispanic population doubled in the last 10 years and their H.S. grad rates are 55% average

In the old days a person not having a HS diploma could get a job in a Factory. Well, again according to the GOV. Site since Clinton signed the "Free Trade Act in 2000,within the next nine years, the U.S. LOST over 42,300 Factories. U.S.now has LESS Factories then we did before the bombing of Pearl Harbor 1940

As much as I didn't like Bush he was blamed for something Clinton signed. Clinton also Signed NAFTA in 93 which those jobs went to Mexico. Apparently hes a SLOW learner

For every direct Jobs loss, 15 other jobs are directly and indirectly affect. US lost from 2000-- 2009 Over 6 million Factories jobs which affected 90 million other jobs. Numbers and Facts shows NO sitting President (Bush) could have stopped that historical bleeding of American jobs

This is just the Tip of the iceberg, I could add how school flunkies cause crime to take off. Now you need to hire more police/Pensions/jails cost etc

The other huge effect is how real estate is being swallowed up by the fast growing Ghettos. That real estate in turn falls off the city Tax coffers. The next phase is now a blighted property needs to be demolished and cities now have to budget for Demolition .

Dems why are you so happy. Do you realize by the numbers the next election over 35% of your voter base WONT even have a HS Diploma. As much as I cant stand the Reps at times, Reps for a long time have the most educated people being most are Non Hispanic whites which have the highest Grad rates in mass

Hitler controlled people in mass because of low education, Then control the Food, Housing, Media, School.(only 1 in 7 teachers are a Conservative

Dems are completely following Hitler Program for Power..

Bottom line here is CNN, FOX, nor the politicians Wwll tell you the Facts with Numbers..
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It's also debbie 'plug a pig' blabbermouth seneca day.

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<quoted text>Your mom is getting gangbanged? Are you going to post it on you tube cracker?
dude he is from Bethlehem, PA , The liberal Cesspool of society

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non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>...if the president can't affect policy 2 years after he started, perhaps he is not an effective president. If you want to give Bush credit for Obama's first four years...
As I stated, the Bush Lite tax cuts created a STRUCTURAL DEFICIT -- one that is in place TODAY. Those cuts did NOT expire when Bush left office -- he did LASTING DAMAGE to the national debt.

Fortunately, those accursed cuts expire December 31, 2012. That fact alone -- without ANY sequestration cuts -- will IMMEDIATELY cut the deficit in HALF!

Notice how the so-called "deficit hawks" like Paul Ryan vehemently OPPOSE allowing those cuts to expire? In fact, Lyin' Ryan wants to make those cuts PERMANENT -- AND cut other taxes as well! Why ANYONE thinks of Ryan as a "deficit hawk" is a COMPLETE MYSTERY.
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As I stated, the Bush Lite tax cuts created a STRUCTURAL DEFICIT.....BLAH,FART,BLAH,FAR T.....is a COMPLETE MYSTERY.
A) NOBODY cares what you think on policy, you are WAY over your head.

B) The mystery is how anybody can be as dense and arrogant as you especially considering your failed life you've so well documented on here.

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lets face it, Dems finally accomplished their plan to give all the money to the poor, after taking it from the producers, and now it's all gone.
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Help me out here.

Remember for years and years how the Bush tax cuts would only help the EVIL RICH?

"TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH!
TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH!
TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH!"

That's all we heard over and over and over.

So why is it such a big deal to Lord Obama if they expire? Seems like the only people who will be affected are the Evil Rich!

Or maybe the Bush tax cuts WEREN'T benefitting just the Evil Rich. Maybe the Socialist/Democrats were lying all along...
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Madaman wrote:
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As I stated, the Bush Lite tax cuts created a STRUCTURAL DEFICIT -- one that is in place TODAY. Those cuts did NOT expire when Bush left office -- he did LASTING DAMAGE to the national debt.
Fortunately, those accursed cuts expire December 31, 2012. That fact alone -- without ANY sequestration cuts -- will IMMEDIATELY cut the deficit in HALF!
Notice how the so-called "deficit hawks" like Paul Ryan vehemently OPPOSE allowing those cuts to expire? In fact, Lyin' Ryan wants to make those cuts PERMANENT -- AND cut other taxes as well! Why ANYONE thinks of Ryan as a "deficit hawk" is a COMPLETE MYSTERY.
While the structural deficit is there, in 2009 and 2010, Obama had a house and senate that were fully democratic, and could have overturned those tax cuts had he so desired. Jobs and the economy were last on his agenda, not first like they should have been. Taxing the rich only puts a little dent in the deficit reduction. With 47% of the population with no federal tax liability, the group actually paying for federal programs is growing smaller and smaller. Let the tax cuts expire for all, or for no one.
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lets face it, Dems finally accomplished their plan to give all the money to the poor, after taking it from the producers, and now it's all gone.
LOL, You are really trying to tell us the poor have all the money and the rich are destitute? The working poor somehow managed to take all the money from the idle rich? What do you think? The idle rich will have to get a job?

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LOL, You are really trying to tell us the poor have all the money and the rich are destitute? The working poor somehow managed to take all the money from the idle rich? What do you think? The idle rich will have to get a job?
where ya been boy? celebrating? While you were gone, another of your beloved unions died, the cookie bakers union with Twinkees decided they would rather lose their jobs than continue working. Is that the one you were in, you would be good at making creampuffs....just kidding....

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Don Joe wrote:
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LOL, You are really trying to tell us the poor have all the money and the rich are destitute? The working poor somehow managed to take all the money from the idle rich? What do you think? The idle rich will have to get a job?
the poor had it for a while, but they couldnt hold on to it...most of it ended up with the crack dealer, the lottery store, the booze store, the liquor store, the flat screen tv rental store, the wheel and rim store, the cigarette store, the ho-stow, and KFC
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the poor had it for a while, but they couldnt hold on to it...most of it ended up with the crack dealer, the lottery store, the booze store, the liquor store, the flat screen tv rental store, the wheel and rim store, the cigarette store, the ho-stow, and KFC
So... The poor had it, and it was given right back to the rich? The rich have all the wealth again? So what are the rich crying about? They got all the money right back?

When can I start to see the wheels and rims on cars any where I drive?

I am curious about the difference between the booze store and the liquor store? Is this another cotton candy setup?

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Don Joe wrote:
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So... The poor had it, and it was given right back to the rich? The rich have all the wealth again? So what are the rich crying about? They got all the money right back?
When can I start to see the wheels and rims on cars any where I drive?
I am curious about the difference between the booze store and the liquor store? Is this another cotton candy setup?
Man, you are a suspicious dude....I'd forgotten all about the cotton candy episode...thanks for reminding me. Yeah, I guess the booze and liquor stores are the same, but I was on a roll and couldn't stop. Did you like the KFC at the end? I thought that was a nice little taunt at the end.

Yeah, the poor spent their money, and it went to the rich, but not the American rich, it went to the indians, vietnamese, jews, chinese, asians, mexicans, paki's and other nationalities that run all the mom and pop businesses in this country. Have you ever been to a 7-11 and seen an American working there? Nail shop? drycleaners? dairy queen? chinese restaurant? mexican restaurant?liquor store?

Maybe up in Minn, I ain't never been there, but in Georgia, you cannot run a small biz unless you are from some other country.
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Man, you are a suspicious dude....I'd forgotten all about the cotton candy episode...thanks for reminding me. Yeah, I guess the booze and liquor stores are the same, but I was on a roll and couldn't stop. Did you like the KFC at the end? I thought that was a nice little taunt at the end.
Yeah, the poor spent their money, and it went to the rich, but not the American rich, it went to the indians, vietnamese, jews, chinese, asians, mexicans, paki's and other nationalities that run all the mom and pop businesses in this country. Have you ever been to a 7-11 and seen an American working there? Nail shop? drycleaners? dairy queen? chinese restaurant? mexican restaurant?liquor store?
Maybe up in Minn, I ain't never been there, but in Georgia, you cannot run a small biz unless you are from some other country.
Burned once, twice shy.(I bet you have heard that one and know what it means.)

The GOP doesn't care which rich, as long as they are the idle rich. They closed the local KFC in my neighborhood a few years back, the building became a dry cleaner.

As to who works fast food in Minnesota, it depends. I could tell when the bush economy was taking effect when you have 50 year old white men asking if I want fries with that.

You can judge the economy here by who is working fast food. For a while it was the over 80 bunch. Now it is the under 17 group. The under 17 group means the economy is improving because adult white males can find better jobs.

Here it is only the rich that can start businesses. It takes money to make money. I wonder where those "foreigners" get their money to start businesses?

I haven't seen a 7-11 for a long time. It looks to me like they all went away.

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Burned once, twice shy.(I bet you have heard that one and know what it means.)
The GOP doesn't care which rich, as long as they are the idle rich. They closed the local KFC in my neighborhood a few years back, the building became a dry cleaner.
As to who works fast food in Minnesota, it depends. I could tell when the bush economy was taking effect when you have 50 year old white men asking if I want fries with that.
You can judge the economy here by who is working fast food. For a while it was the over 80 bunch. Now it is the under 17 group. The under 17 group means the economy is improving because adult white males can find better jobs.
Here it is only the rich that can start businesses. It takes money to make money. I wonder where those "foreigners" get their money to start businesses?
I haven't seen a 7-11 for a long time. It looks to me like they all went away.
7-11 is just a generic term for convenience store...surely you have them up there in the frozen north? Those are mostly owned and run by indians, this is where Biden got his 'slurpee' j oke not too long ago.
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7-11 is just a generic term for convenience store...surely you have them up there in the frozen north? Those are mostly owned and run by indians, this is where Biden got his 'slurpee' j oke not too long ago.
Ahhh, like "coke" is a generic term for soda pop. Some call it soda, some call it pop, and some call it coke, and you can buy it on tap in a convenience store, some called 7 to 11. Yea, lots of them, usually associated with a gas station.

I know the local convenience store owners and none are Indian. I would guess they grew up close (Either Minnesota or western Wisconsin). They hire younger people, college students, or a bit older. I am seeing younger people taking these jobs now, as the older ones find better jobs, and there hasn't been jobs for youth since bush took office. Even fast food has local franchise owners.

You want a slurpee in Minnesota? Just buy a coke, and leave it in the cup holder in your car. Come back in a few hours and it will be all ice. Grab your ice pick, and crunch it up. There ya go.
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Don Joe wrote:
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Burned once, twice shy.(I bet you have heard that one and know what it means.)
The GOP doesn't care which rich, as long as they are the idle rich. They closed the local KFC in my neighborhood a few years back, the building became a dry cleaner.
As to who works fast food in Minnesota, it depends. I could tell when the bush economy was taking effect when you have 50 year old white men asking if I want fries with that.You can judge the economy here by who is working fast food. For a while it was the over 80 bunch. Now it is the under 17 group. The under 17 group means the economy is improving because adult white males can find better jobs.Here it is only the rich that can start businesses. It takes money to make money.
Did you ever think those OLD people retired or couldn't make ENOUGH money to live at their age?

How about this.

Old people NEVER really worked at those fast food stores in the 60s 70s. Why because those types of jobs were for kids to work at before you got a REAL job;

Min Wage was also a wage to work at while looking for a REAL job.
But since the US grads rates keep going down many now older Americans can only get a min wage because of no HS diploma
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<quoted text>I wonder where those "foreigners" get their money to start businesses? I haven't seen a 7-11 for a long time. It looks to me like they all went away.
Many of those convient stores were run by Muslims. Why, because the US has a program for immigrants that the first 5 years they don't have to pay TAXES. Notice how those stores changes Muslim help so often

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