Partisan fight over "fiscal cliff" will harm U.S. economy: Reuters poll

Nov 12, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Reuters

U.S. President Barack Obama delivers a statement on the U.S. ''Fiscal Cliff'' in the East Room of the White House as Vice President Joe Biden looks on in Washington, November 9, 2012.

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Let the liberals drive off the fiscal cliff. Elections should have consequences as well as rewards. The women and children voted left, let them reap the misery of their choices on emotion instead of logic and country.
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rethugs are sure to engage in their usual posturing. They could care less what happens to the country as long as it damages obama's administration!

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I see the media is laying the groundwork for the excuses Obama will use for the economic failure of his second term.

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au contraire wrote:
Let the liberals drive off the fiscal cliff. Elections should have consequences as well as rewards. The women and children voted left, let them reap the misery of their choices on emotion instead of logic and country.
Translation --- Republicans want to crash the economy again because the Democrats won. They will never change
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If what is left of the Repub party capitulates then never vote for them again! Lets see. A few years from Reagan and a couples years from the 1994 mandate. That is it! Screw it! They are controlled from some other power and we are suckers. The people who convince us what to do who you can count on your ten fingers have become rich while we feel better about our massive movement to the left. This election was the turning point on listening to these people. But they will convince us otherwise. And you know why. they are half azz. Even if they complain that the repub party nominates moderates and RINOS. Perpetual wars and high internal security is like having something wedged up your azz while you speak of freedom. It means nothing. So they will speqak and make songs up during their broadcasts and nothing will happen. The TEA PARTY has been usurped by FREEDOM WORKS! So believe it if you will. Enjoy the years we hav eleft and spend what you got. Because we all will be collecting and they will be flying out to the islands themselves. Partying with the progressives.

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Everyone remember happened last year during Christmas with the debt deal?

Mark my words, the exact same thing will happen again and around midnight on Xmas Eve.

While everyone is asleep, the D's and R's will make a miracle happen. The grinch will grow a heart 3 times it size, they will grab hands and sing together. For in their eyes, they will think that they have become saviors of you.

Well, they are not going to save you, they are going to screw you. Enslave you is probably the better term. They will make a deal by borrowing more money from the Federal Reserve at interest that you will have to pay for. So you will be even more a slave to debt. A debt that is fraudulent and we the people should not have to pay for.

The gang of 535 (Senators and Congressman aka Bloods and Crips) will make sure you pay tribute to the gang. As for the gang takes priority and the second priority is to the financials of the gang. No matter how they obtain the financials.

People should keep this in mind while debating D's and R's. They are nothing more than gangs.

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Kahoki wrote:
Everyone remember happened last year during Christmas with the debt deal?
Mark my words, the exact same thing will happen again and around midnight on Xmas Eve.
While everyone is asleep, the D's and R's will make a miracle happen. The grinch will grow a heart 3 times it size, they will grab hands and sing together. For in their eyes, they will think that they have become saviors of you.
Well, they are not going to save you, they are going to screw you. Enslave you is probably the better term. They will make a deal by borrowing more money from the Federal Reserve at interest that you will have to pay for. So you will be even more a slave to debt. A debt that is fraudulent and we the people should not have to pay for.
The gang of 535 (Senators and Congressman aka Bloods and Crips) will make sure you pay tribute to the gang. As for the gang takes priority and the second priority is to the financials of the gang. No matter how they obtain the financials.
People should keep this in mind while debating D's and R's. They are nothing more than gangs.
you must be referring to when Boner got 98% of what he wanted by blacking America with the threat of pushing us over the fiscal cliff

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based on the voters demographics, if the libs/dems can always find a clean, articulate negro, or woman, that does not speak in a heavy negro dialect, they will never lose again.

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swampmudd wrote:
<quoted text>you must be referring to when Boner got 98% of what he wanted by blacking America with the threat of pushing us over the fiscal cliff
My point was, how did it all play out?

The D's were bitching and pointing fingers at the R's saying the R's would not help or come to the table. Blah blah blah.

The R's were sitting there saying the D's were not doing enough and refused to come to the table. Blah blah blah.

It was all finger pointing and bitching. But, at the 11th hour, hell on earth about to happen, people will start dying in the streets, etc..... They came together and passed a deal. Then they basically went on all TV and proclaimed themselves as basically saviors. The world would not end.

Where is my bullshit button?

It is all going to happen again.

Personally, I say, let F*cker collapse. It is going to happen. What these idiots are doing is only propping up the corrupt system and eventually the house of cards is going to fall. Better to get it done with now and correct the root problems (debt based currency and the issuance of it) and start off fresh.

But the people will continue to look at these idiots as people to fix the problem they created. When they have demonstrated time and time again that both the D's and R's cannot fix shit.
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All this "fiscal cliff" scarey stuff is pure nonsense. Give the President some credit. If the Fiscal Cliff was a big deal no President would abandon his duties and fly off to some remote third world country during a crisis.

We can all relax. The President leaves for Burma next week.

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au contraire wrote:
Let the liberals drive off the fiscal cliff. Elections should have consequences as well as rewards. The women and children voted left, let them reap the misery of their choices on emotion instead of logic and country.
:word:

Income tax on MOST people is going up 50% on 1 Jan.

10% Bracket -> 15% Tax Bracket (50% increase!)
Social Security (Employee Portion)-> 4.2% to 6.2%(~50% increase)
Tax on the HIGHEST bracket is going from 35%-> 38%(~8% increase)

Why?

Because the EVIL Bush gave a MUCH LARGER tax cut to the middle and lower class! It cracks me up because back when Bush passed those cuts all the liberals were bitching because the rich got a bigger cut in terms of gross dollars. Now they will complain that the lower class is getting the biggest increase in terms of percentage. Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

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<quoted text>Translation --- Republicans want to crash the economy again because the Democrats won. They will never change
since you think taxes are too low, let's see what you and you ilk think when taxes jump like this during the worst economy since the great depression, and the bottom falls out of this already shitty economy.

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<quoted text>Translation --- Republicans want to crash the economy again because the Democrats won. They will never change
Obama rules remember. If it crashes, it will be due to his first four years. Hundreds are being laid off this week. Look for more bankrupcy and foreclosures at a city near you. You have ruined many lives to keep your pills and unemployment for life.

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au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Obama rules remember. If it crashes, it will be due to his first four years. Hundreds are being laid off this week. Look for more bankrupcy and foreclosures at a city near you. You have ruined many lives to keep your pills and unemployment for life.
Well, that will be the rhetoric. However, it is not "IF" it will crash. It is a matter of "WHEN".

The argument of it's Bush's fault or Obama's fault is meaningless crap.

The policies enacted under Clinton with the repeal of Glass Steagle and the creation of the derivative markets has never been addressed. Same policies, different day.

Welcome in the new boss, same as the old boss.

Your close, but, not quiet there yet.

The system will collapse. The Fed is dumping in $84B/mo to wall street.$40B/mo to buy up mortgage backed securities from JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, CITI, Bank of NY Mellon, etc... While the other $44B/mo is going to cover Wall Street operational costs.

Money we have to pay for with interest applied and money we did not approve for them to give or create.

The issue is bigger than D's or R's. But, they keep people arguing that only and no focus goes to the bankers. It is the largest bank robbery in world and it is the banks doing the robbing.
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inbred Genius wrote:
based on the voters demographics, if the libs/dems can always find a clean, articulate negro, or woman, that does not speak in a heavy negro dialect, they will never lose again.
That is the republican way. They can't even win economically with the greatest capitalist system in the world compared to communist China. What wimps.

If they could just put half a plan together that didn't avoid reality so much, they would have a chance.

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Kahoki wrote:
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My point was, how did it all play out?
The D's were bitching and pointing fingers at the R's saying the R's would not help or come to the table. Blah blah blah.
The R's were sitting there saying the D's were not doing enough and refused to come to the table. Blah blah blah.
It was all finger pointing and bitching. But, at the 11th hour, hell on earth about to happen, people will start dying in the streets, etc..... They came together and passed a deal. Then they basically went on all TV and proclaimed themselves as basically saviors. The world would not end.
Where is my bullshit button?
It is all going to happen again.
Personally, I say, let F*cker collapse. It is going to happen. What these idiots are doing is only propping up the corrupt system and eventually the house of cards is going to fall. Better to get it done with now and correct the root problems (debt based currency and the issuance of it) and start off fresh.
But the people will continue to look at these idiots as people to fix the problem they created. When they have demonstrated time and time again that both the D's and R's cannot fix shit.
The point is that althougth the Republicans claim it is the Democrats who will not compromise it is the Republicans black mailed the country with the fiscal cliff. It was the Republicans who refused to compromise and was it the Democrats who compromised and gave the Republicans 98% of what they wanted. Everything Boner just said was excactly what the Republicans were offering during the election that was voted down by the people. Now the Republicans think they can over-ride the election mandate with the same tactics.
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Don Joe wrote:
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That is the republican way. They can't even win economically with the greatest capitalist system in the world compared to communist China. What wimps.
If they could just put half a plan together that didn't avoid reality so much, they would have a chance.
I totally agree. No President would leave the Country for an unneccessary trip to a Third World Country like Burma if the Fiscal Cliff was that big of a deal.

The Fiscal Cliff is much ado about nothing. President Obama is in complete control of the situation.
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The consequences of the election must be felt.

2016 = a white person-male or female- and Deval Patrick

Obama wants a black in the pipeline for the presidency

Just think: Hillary (woman's vote, foreign experience, senatorial experience, White House experience

and

Deval Patrick - experience in Bill Clinton administration, experience as Governor of MA

Barack will 'campaign' for the ticket (he owes Bill Clinton!) and use his 'ground game' to put these two forward and assure another black man is in the pipeline.

Republicans - definitely a latino on the ticket maybe two minorities. Thinking: Rubio and Rice

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since you think taxes are too low, let's see what you and you ilk think when taxes jump like this during the worst economy since the great depression, and the bottom falls out of this already shitty economy.
You mean like during Clinton when taxes were raised and we created a surplus budget while the economy boomed. Looks like you are still believing the Rat Wing lies.
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considering that obamas addition of over 6 trillion to the cliffs height, they will just have to fall back on 'Bush's fault' meme.

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