North Carolina voters approve gay mar...

North Carolina voters approve gay marriage ban

There are 5908 comments on the NJ.com story from May 8, 2012, titled North Carolina voters approve gay marriage ban. In it, NJ.com reports that:

North Carolina voters approved a constitutional amendment today defining marriage solely as a union between a man and a woman, making it the 30th state to adopt such a ban.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1703 May 18, 2012
Sawber wrote:
<quoted text>If that is the reason, then genetic relationship or the number of people in the marriage also doesn't matter.
In that respect, no. But incest & polygamy are banned for other reasons.

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1704 May 18, 2012
anneutral wrote:
<quoted text>
My God sure is, as is his son
GOD and HIS Son are into the HOLY, not the human.

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#1705 May 18, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Yikes, the tin-foil hat crowd is out early today!
are you saying that Lyme isn't a government manufactured disease?
(it is, they've admitted it)
.
so who's to say that Aids isn't?
many people believe that it was originally manufactured by scientists trying to find a cure for polio.

&fe ature=related

(the video is a little long, but very interesting)

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1706 May 18, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
And allowing same-sex couples to marry affect this how???
Since 50% of all children are now born out of wedlock, it appears the current marriage laws of one-man-one-woman aren't ensuring that that "children are born into married intact families with their mother & father".
All people also have an interest in the government and society ensuring that children being raised by their same-sex parents have the legal protections/benefits which only come from marriage.
The fact that 50% of children are now born out of wedlock, is because of the attack on the American Family since the sixties, when we started lying to people about 'living together' and 'don't need a man to raise a baby', etc. Now 'you' want to add,'don't need a mom and a dad, just two people who cares'.....we have ourselves to blame for believing these lies to begin with...

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1707 May 18, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
No, a necessary link would mean reproduction or at least the capability of reproduction is a requirement for marriage. Since many infertile couples or elederly couples without the capability of reproduction are allowed to marry, that means it is NOT a necessary link.
Male-female couples are also the only class of couples capable of competing in a mixed doubles tennis tournament. Does that mean playing tennis is also a "necessary link" to marriage?
Tennis??? Really???? I know it hurts you to your heart to admit o/s couples are what keeps little Americans coming in force, but don't think we don't know it.....
Reality

Windsor, VT

#1708 May 18, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
No, a necessary link would mean reproduction or at least the capability of reproduction is a requirement for marriage.
By the same logic, it is not required that one be gay to be LGBT since many Transgender LGBT members are straight!
There is no rational reason to deny straights inclusion into LGBT status.
We will no longer be second class citizens!
so when will straights be getting equal protection of the law and stop being denied LGBT status based on nothing but prejudice.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1709 May 18, 2012
Get That Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
GOD and HIS Son are into the HOLY, not the human.
They are into the mythological, not the rational. like Zues or Thor or the jackal-headed dude with the cool necktie...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1710 May 18, 2012
Get That Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
Tennis??? Really???? I know it hurts you to your heart to admit o/s couples are what keeps little Americans coming in force, but don't think we don't know it.....
Yet you keep forgetting to relate that to marriage in any legal way. Ooops, prejudice usually clouds the ability to reason.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1711 May 18, 2012
Get That Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact that 50% of children are now born out of wedlock, is because of the attack on the American Family since the sixties, when we started lying to people about 'living together' and 'don't need a man to raise a baby', etc. Now 'you' want to add,'don't need a mom and a dad, just two people who cares'.....we have ourselves to blame for believing these lies to begin with...
And look how much better of a country we are than we were in the 60's!

You're not really good at this logic thing, are you?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1712 May 18, 2012
anneutral wrote:
<quoted text>
are you saying that Lyme isn't a government manufactured disease?
(it is, they've admitted it)
.
so who's to say that Aids isn't?
many people believe that it was originally manufactured by scientists trying to find a cure for polio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =LZs1V8mpcoYXX&feature=rel ated
(the video is a little long, but very interesting)
And so they introduced it into the bloodstream in Africa as a test? sorry, you are off the rational.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1713 May 18, 2012
Fitz wrote:
<quoted text>
I would love to keep schooling you ... I could even go into anologies about how you dont need to actually catch a fish just because you get a fishing liceance..
And just because everbody who gets a fishing liceance dosent catch fish dosent mean fishing liceances have nothing to do with catching fish...
And if everyone who gets a fishing liceance dosent catch a fish then clearly the state has no interest in liceancing those try an catch fish.
And your analogy would fail to demonstrate your point.

There is no requirement someone catch a fish to get a fishing license, just as there is no requirement someone reproduce to get a marriage license.

There is no requirement someone even be capable of catching a fish to be able to get a fishing license, just as there is no requirement someone be capable of reproducing to get a marriage license.

So there is no necessary link of cathing a fishing to getting a fishing license, just as there is no necesasry link of reproducing within the marriage to get a marriage license.

Btw, no one is saying Baker isn't still precedent; it's precedent until specifically overturned by the SCOTUS. The issue is whether it is still controlling precedent due to the nature of the specific case and/or subsequent SCOTUS rulings since Baker. Obviously only the SCOTUS can make that determination.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1714 May 18, 2012
anneutral wrote:
<quoted text>
are you saying that Lyme isn't a government manufactured disease?
(it is, they've admitted it)
.
so who's to say that Aids isn't?
many people believe that it was originally manufactured by scientists trying to find a cure for polio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =LZs1V8mpcoYXX&feature=rel ated
(the video is a little long, but very interesting)
have you met stellarknight? He thinks Lymes was used for mindcontrol so people would believe the 911 conspiracy.

You two should talk...

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1715 May 18, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Yet you keep forgetting to relate that to marriage in any legal way. Ooops, prejudice usually clouds the ability to reason.
Responsible procreation...there tied in...

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1716 May 18, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>And look how much better of a country we are than we were in the 60's!
You're not really good at this logic thing, are you?
Do define..."better off".....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1717 May 18, 2012
Get That Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact that 50% of children are now born out of wedlock, is because of the attack on the American Family since the sixties, when we started lying to people about 'living together' and 'don't need a man to raise a baby', etc. Now 'you' want to add,'don't need a mom and a dad, just two people who cares'.....we have ourselves to blame for believing these lies to begin with...
Yes, you heteros ARE to blame for the 50% of children now born out of wedlock. It's about time you take responsibility for your messes and stop trying to blame everyone else.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1718 May 18, 2012
Get That Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
Do define..."better off".....
More moral. better standard of living. closer to the founding ideals of our country.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1719 May 18, 2012
Get That Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
Responsible procreation...there tied in...
Lots of people practice responsible procreation outside of the bonds of any legal marriage or arcane religious ceremony.

another logic fail. you really need to stop and think over your posts before you hit the enter key...

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1720 May 18, 2012
Get That Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
Tennis??? Really???? I know it hurts you to your heart to admit o/s couples are what keeps little Americans coming in force, but don't think we don't know it.....
And it STILL has nothing to do with marriage, since procreation was NEVER a requirement of marriage; not even the ability, capability, nor even desire to procreate.

Btw, the tennis reference was an analogy, something WAY over your limited intellect.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1721 May 18, 2012
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>
By the same logic, it is not required that one be gay to be LGBT since many Transgender LGBT members are straight!
There is no rational reason to deny straights inclusion into LGBT status.
We will no longer be second class citizens!
so when will straights be getting equal protection of the law and stop being denied LGBT status based on nothing but prejudice.
You can identify as a transgender person anytime you want to. Absolutely no one can stop you, and you will be included in the LGBT status.

What would you like your new name to be?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1722 May 18, 2012
Wat the Tyler wrote:
In 20 years from now when gay marriage is legal in all 50 states we are all gonna look back at 2012 as the turning point in marriage equality struggle. No longer is being anti-gay marriage a good thing for a politician. Now Obama is running on the platform of marriage equality. 8 years ago no politician running for president could have done that. anti-gay forces realize they are fighting a losing battle. It's only a matter of time before it's legal in all 50 states. the polls show young people support gay marriage by 70%. It's over bigots. Your time is almost up.
In 20 years when polygamy is legal in all 50 states we're going to look back on 2012 as the turning point in marriage. Now Obama, who comes from a line of polygamists, is running on a platform of marriage equality. It's only a matter of time. Polls indicate a growing acceptance of polygamous relationships. It's over polyaphobes, your time is almost up.

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