Shifting global power

Shifting global power

There are 74 comments on the Financial Times story from Feb 16, 2013, titled Shifting global power. In it, Financial Times reports that:

Philippine president Benigno Aquino III, Singapore's prime minister Lee Hsien Loong, Thailand PM Yingluck Shinawatra, Vietnam's PM Nguyen Tan Dung, US president Barack Obama, Cambodia's PM Hun Sen, join hands for a summit group photo in Phnom Penh, Cambodia The Great Convergence: Asia, the West, and the Logic of One World , by Kishore Mahbubani, ... (more)

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KARMA

Phnom Penh, Cambodia

#21 Feb 18, 2013
Everything is inter-connected these days, and one could hardly do without the other.

So, the end-product of a strong economy is a strong nation, where unlimited capital is available to strenghten its stands, socially and militarily.

Above all, you just can't live on laser beam and bullets, and the U.S. did just that right after World War II. It was the period of solid economic growth that lead the U.S. to becoming a superpower.

So now, it has become knowledge to all that the U.S. is struggling to come to terms with a rising China, whose greatest strength, even during a global recession, is not military, but rather its unprecented growth economically. Therein, too, lies its greatest threat to U.S. interests.
KARMA wrote:
I do see as to what you're saying, but in my view there will always be some strategic balance exist somewhere in between.
The fools are those little blood thirsty mosquitoes who are foolish enough to think that any of the superpowers is willing to attack one another on their behalf.
They are nothing but little pieces to be played on the superpowers'chessboard.
When it's all said and done, it is simply: YOU TAKE THIS AND I WILL TAKE THAT.
That's the way it has been all along and that's the way it's going to be.
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Angkor

United States

#24 Feb 18, 2013
KARMA wrote:
I do see as to what you're saying, but in my view there will always be some strategic balance exist somewhere in between.
The fools are those little blood thirsty mosquitoes who are foolish enough to think that any of the superpowers is willing to attack one another on their behalf.
They are nothing but little pieces to be played on the superpowers'chessboard.
When it's all said and done, it is simply: YOU TAKE THIS AND I WILL TAKE THAT.
That's the way it has been all along and that's the way it's going to be.
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Hey - you are the one suggested the nuclear issue, I just feel that you wish that someone to bomb America. And I was just telling you to not worry about it, since America has plan in place already to protect the USA.
Angkor

United States

#25 Feb 18, 2013
KARMA wrote:
Everything is inter-connected these days, and one could hardly do without the other.
So, the end-product of a strong economy is a strong nation, where unlimited capital is available to strenghten its stands, socially and militarily.
Above all, you just can't live on laser beam and bullets, and the U.S. did just that right after World War II. It was the period of solid economic growth that lead the U.S. to becoming a superpower.
So now, it has become knowledge to all that the U.S. is struggling to come to terms with a rising China, whose greatest strength, even during a global recession, is not military, but rather its unprecented growth economically. Therein, too, lies its greatest threat to U.S. interests.
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You are correct about everything is interconnected. America had pushed to have this and US is enjoying it very much today. America has Japan makes cars, China make clothes and house whole products.
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I myself enjoy it too, with everything deep discount and cars with big discount plus no interest.
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Of course, there is always concerned about enemy, but I am afraid China economy is not as prosperous as you said, since it's people are still poor and human right is still on the bottom.
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However, US Pentagon still spends billion$ on defense and NASA means US is friended with and police the world, but it doesn't trust anybody.
KARMA

Phnom Penh, Cambodia

#26 Feb 18, 2013
I suggest you go back and read my comment again. I never had said anything about bombing anybody. Instead, I said that the superpowers will never attack each other based upon the conflicts of others.

I strongly recommend that you go back and relook through all my comments before going any further.

I repeat: The superpowers will never attack each other and as to the way you feel, is a pity on your own ignorant and your ability to read and understand a written statement.

So enlight me as to where did I say that?
Angkor wrote:
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Hey - you are the one suggested the nuclear issue, I just feel that you wish that someone to bomb America. And I was just telling you to not worry about it, since America has plan in place already to protect the USA.
KARMA

Phnom Penh, Cambodia

#27 Feb 18, 2013
Re-read what I wrote:

"Think of it this way, each has hundred's if not thousands of nuclear warheads pointings at each other, do you think they are dumb enough to push those buttons and destroy themselves because of a few mosquitos flying around. Please think!"

In my statement, I stressed that none of them would be willing to initiate any threat or attack again another as it could very well be a target of a retaliation by others.

In military term, is called: STRATEGIC FAILURE

Strategic failure is where something that's commonly thought of as a major failure or mistake is done on purpose in order to achieve a bigger...

I invite you to google it and it's good to learn a thing or two, is it not?
KARMA

Phnom Penh, Cambodia

#28 Feb 18, 2013
OBTW, this is what you wrote:

"However, US Pentagon still spends billion$ on defense and NASA means US is friended with and police the world, but it doesn't trust anybody".

As to your statement it would be a common U.S. policy to: TRUST BUT VERIFY

I do not proclaim to know much, however, I do know a thing or two about the U.S. National and Foreign Policies.

Cheers,
tran

Australia

#29 Feb 18, 2013
who dare a winner wrote:
<quoted text>.
this is a verb suggestion,,
and you spoken with your owner mind,,.
you didn't known what was behind the curtain between them 2 regime,,
you known what you had been told,,.
during the wars time,,.
the killing must be first,,,,if you don't,,then no way you can claimed a winner,,
china killed,,french killed,,American killed,,.japanese killed,,.
now who do you wish to come and killimg some more ha dick sucker ?
YOU WERE A PANDER THE RICH,,YOU EATING THEIR BUT DON'T FEEL ANY SENSE OF a bad smell..
move to your grand father land and enjoy you are disgrace vietnam
your grand father make a lot of enemy and you one of them you try to devide vietnamese peoople
you born in vietnam but you such your prahok it smell nice? you wish your missie prahok take a share in south china sea?
i do not like the big nation bully and rob the small one that not a good neighbor
Angkor

Seattle, WA

#30 Feb 18, 2013
KARMA wrote:
OBTW, this is what you wrote:
"However, US Pentagon still spends billion$ on defense and NASA means US is friended with and police the world, but it doesn't trust anybody".
As to your statement it would be a common U.S. policy to: TRUST BUT VERIFY
I do not proclaim to know much, however, I do know a thing or two about the U.S. National and Foreign Policies.
Cheers,
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Hey - Yes, I am so smart and I know everything. Hahaha - I know thing I know and I know thing I don't know.
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Anyway - I think that you possess quite a knowledge about many thing.
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Cheer...
KARMA

Phnom Penh, Cambodia

#31 Feb 18, 2013
Let's move on and talk about some other things that could enrich us all.

Be Safe...
Angkor wrote:
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Hey - Yes, I am so smart and I know everything. Hahaha - I know thing I know and I know thing I don't know.
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Anyway - I think that you possess quite a knowledge about many thing.
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Cheer...
Drgunzet

Meridian, ID

#32 Feb 18, 2013
Angkor wrote:
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Hey - Yes, I am so smart and I know everything. Hahaha - I know thing I know and I know thing I don't know.
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Anyway - I think that you possess quite a knowledge about many thing.
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Cheer...
Oh my God, this loser is weird and talking nonsense.
Drgunzet

Meridian, ID

#33 Feb 18, 2013
Angkor wrote:
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Hey - you are the one suggested the nuclear issue, I just feel that you wish that someone to bomb America. And I was just telling you to not worry about it, since America has plan in place already to protect the USA.
Idiot, typical of Khmer buffaloes.
KARMA

Phnom Penh, Cambodia

#34 Feb 18, 2013
Now a day, the negative views about China's economic prospects dominates the country's image. To many Chinese businesses the acknowledgment of relative soft spots in the economy and worries about things like declining exports, weakening Western economies, a housing bubble, too much bad investment and a failure to spur domestic consumption More saving and not enough spending)are quite apparent.

But on balance, many were firmly optimistic that the fundamental "urge to surge" remained. If anything, the decline in the Chinese stock market had made them even more enthusiastic about investing.

Interestingly, China seems to want others to misunderstand her economy as it serves China's interests to be underestimated by the West.

Concerns about China's economy are often exacerbated by anxieties about its political stability amid a leadership transition, rampant corruption and official economic data of questionable veracity. But put those emotions aside, the economic picture outlooks remain to be rosy.

No doubt a portion of China's investment has been misdirected to quite a few underdeveloped nations. But misdirected overinvestment won't bring down China’s economy; it simply represents lost consumption for Chinese families and that would be all.

As successful and rosy China’s economy may seem with her extraordinary investment rate of 48% of gross domestic product; of which is hallmark of an emerging economy; China's economy represents only one tenth of the U.S. and European economies combined, which suggests that she still have much further to go.

Interesting discussion by Western investors:



Cheers,
KARMA wrote:
Let's move on and talk about some other things that could enrich us all.
Be Safe...
<quoted text>
boun thang

Kincumber South, Australia

#35 Feb 25, 2013
cambodia should unite with asean
Angkor

Seattle, WA

#36 Feb 25, 2013
KARMA wrote:
Now a day, the negative views about China's economic prospects dominates the country's image. To many Chinese businesses the acknowledgment of relative soft spots in the economy and worries about things like declining exports, weakening Western economies, a housing bubble, too much bad investment and a failure to spur domestic consumption More saving and not enough spending)are quite apparent.
But on balance, many were firmly optimistic that the fundamental "urge to surge" remained. If anything, the decline in the Chinese stock market had made them even more enthusiastic about investing.
Interestingly, China seems to want others to misunderstand her economy as it serves China's interests to be underestimated by the West.
Concerns about China's economy are often exacerbated by anxieties about its political stability amid a leadership transition, rampant corruption and official economic data of questionable veracity. But put those emotions aside, the economic picture outlooks remain to be rosy.
No doubt a portion of China's investment has been misdirected to quite a few underdeveloped nations. But misdirected overinvestment won't bring down China’s economy; it simply represents lost consumption for Chinese families and that would be all.
As successful and rosy China’s economy may seem with her extraordinary investment rate of 48% of gross domestic product; of which is hallmark of an emerging economy; China's economy represents only one tenth of the U.S. and European economies combined, which suggests that she still have much further to go.
Interesting discussion by Western investors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =oNIzx_LPgQ8XX
Cheers,
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You have a good view of China... Yes, China is suffering cruising along about its economy.
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I still think China has lot to work with its own Human Right and democracy in its country in order to do well in Cambodia.
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I still think China destroys Cambodia in many forms today. What is your view about China toward Cambodia?
vietcong opinion

UK

#37 Feb 26, 2013
Angkor wrote:
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You have a good view of China... Yes, China is suffering cruising along about its economy.
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I still think China has lot to work with its own Human Right and democracy in its country in order to do well in Cambodia.
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I still think China destroys Cambodia in many forms today. What is your view about China toward Cambodia?
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well i didn't see any thing like that at all,,
is it up to Cambodian government,,

if they like to be part of china,,then they must consider very carefully,,what will benefit for Khmer rouge people and the future of the country leading to,,

as the whole Asian view was every countries in the Asian region,,wish to be part of WESTERN countries,.

like Thailand,,Philippine,,Singapor e,,Burma,,Japan,Malaysia,,

so none of there Asian countries would like to be an ALLIES with china,,only vn and North korea..

t5hat was a example for Cambodia GOVERNMENT TO SEE,,and making their decision,,

but not an easy like they wish,,
The Kmer

United States

#38 Feb 26, 2013
Angkor wrote:
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I can see two things in your quote here.
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1. China economy - America has the best foriegn policy on earth. Do you know that rate to buy the house in the US is only 3.0%? Do you know that almost everything sold in America made in China? It has been 10yrs that US has paid China to make everything. Chinese people have been prosperous now, and almost every Chinese has food and even diabete. What do you think if American stop paying Chineses?
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2. I know how you feel toward Americans? But don't worry. Do you think America don't know and don't care about that? we have technology to watch the world everyday. Do you think American trust those Asian and Middle East idiots? of cousre not, that is why American has everything in place to prevent it already. Americans have hundredst of Airborne lasers which can shoot lasers 500 miles a way, and it has been sucessfully tested, just to let you know. You have known American attitude already, if American assume that they can't prevent this, they act now already. American has always acted first - like at bombing in Japan. if American don't do anything like this, that is meaned they are confident of what they have to prevent their country. If China push one button, there will be 1000 buttons automatically pushed by American design.
Angkor, are you really Khmer? Have you parents told you anything about America bombing in Cambodia? How do you feel about US still refuse to pay compensation to innocent Cambodian people they sprayed with chemical agent called the "yellow rain" which caused children to be borned malformed??? ARE YOUR REALLY A CAMBODIAN OR JUST DUMB?
Angkor

Seattle, WA

#39 Feb 26, 2013
The Kmer wrote:
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Angkor, are you really Khmer? Have youJUST DUMB?
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Yes – I know very well about US bomb Cambodia. US bombed Cambodia during Lon Nol who was with US.
1. Do you have enough data to prove as people said about the bombing?
No – old folks told me about it, but did they have proof of the correct data? Mainly it is politics of words of politicians. Khmer politicians used that language against the US all the time. Hun Sen said that too. Cham Prasit said that too after Obama asked for the repay back of the debt Lon Nol borrowed the US.
2. Why and where was the bombing?
The bombing was mainly at the target of the HoChiminh trails and Khmer Vietminh. Yes – of course, affecting some of the innocent lives because it was a war. But I don’t think that much of the number as it is claimed.
3.“ Yellow rain" which caused children to be borned malformed “ is not true. I still believe that US did not do this. This is during the 1973-1974 story which was mainly a thread and scare by politicians. If you looked at it closely, someone else did this. I don’t want to say who did it here.
4. US enemy? Yes – if you put yourself into the shoe of US enemy, US will treat you as such. Anybody, if they are your enemie, that is what they do? China too, what China had done to Cambodia till today?
5. US is good too. US is still donating a lot to Cambodia but mostly thru NGO and Humanitarian forms. This is because US recognized the corruption in Cambodia. US gave capita to Cambodian Govt who sold those to other countries for corruption/easy cash. US created all of these Khmer-Americans like me who have shed lots of cashes, life and everything else into our beloved country. Average of Khmer families in the US have spent equal to about 30% of Cambodian national budget in 2007. I don’t want to say US is all good to Cambodia, but what else do you want US do to you? Do you want US give free military stuffs to Hun Sen like China? Do you want US to do the business with abused/ un-humanized Cambodia government? However, US has done whatever directly helping the people. China actually violates the international business policy. We can talk the whole day about this.
6. OK – Let’s look at China you love so much.
Honestly – I don’t have a problem at all with free cash. But have you got free stuffs from China to Cambodian people? What kind of stuffs now that China gives to Hun Sen and in KR time? What is China policy toward Cambodia now and before? What has China and Chinese illegal immigrants have done to Cambodia? Have Chinese hold guns to protect Prah Vihea? Or have Sino-Khmers in Cambodia donates a pair of shoes to those dark skin Khmer soldiers. Yes – Cambodia has been enjoyed free cash, but where is it from? Is it from China or the West or World Bank? Most big factories in Cambodia are owned by Chinese. Look at what they do to the poor workers. Have they had a idea of profit sharing as the Americans?
Angkor

Seattle, WA

#40 Feb 26, 2013
The Kmer wrote:
<quoted text>
Angkor, are you really Khmer? Have you parents told you anything about America bombing in Cambodia? How do you feel about US still refuse to pay compensation to innocent Cambodian people they sprayed with chemical agent called the "yellow rain" which caused children to be borned malformed??? ARE YOUR REALLY A CAMBODIAN OR JUST DUMB?
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7. We need to ask lots of questions to ourselves and evaluate them. I don’t say you are dumb, but Cambodia we got back from Yuons was not the act of China. It was mainly the joint of the King with the West. Chinese was not there until we got the country back. And now, China is supporting HunSen again, this is to give Yuon economic and military strength again in promoting its politics to swallow the whole Cambodia. Chinese did this in the KR time too, by trading military supplies with innocent Khmer’s hard work (rice) while the other part of KR (Khmer Vietminh) kept killing till Pol Pot found out, then those Khmer Vietminh run back to Vietnam in order to come back to hurt us again today. But today is a little different, China supplies military stuffs directly the Khmer Vietminh who are clearly working for the Yuon Communist Hanoi who are doing every possible mean to swallow the whole nation.
8. Now – Yuons got all the main blood supplies. Example: Angkorwat is the Khmer legacy was given the one Yuon person to generate all the cash to send back home.
9. For you, How can you live so comfortable in your country and watching all of these? How can you still support this Chinese activity which was already a lesson-learned? How can you watch the HunSen’s families, crooks and cronies do to you like this? Are you Hun To or Hun Maneth or Hun Manna? I am not pointing fingers at you, because most Khmers in Cambodia I talked to have the same mentality like you. I feel sorry for our Khmers falling into this today. Please wake up till it is late.
10. I am not preparing to write this. I just write out quickly of what come to my mine in response to your thought/mentality. If I have time, I will do more in the elaborated way.
Angkor

Seattle, WA

#41 Feb 26, 2013
The Kmer wrote:
<quoted text>
Angkor, are you really Khmer? Have you parents told you anything about America bombing in Cambodia? How do you feel about US still refuse to pay compensation to innocent Cambodian people they sprayed with chemical agent called the "yellow rain" which caused children to be borned malformed??? ARE YOUR REALLY A CAMBODIAN OR JUST DUMB?
===
Yes – I know very well about US bomb Cambodia. US bombed Cambodia during Lon Nol who was with US.
1. Do you have enough data to prove as people said about the bombing?
No – old folks told me about it, but did they have proof of the correct data? Mainly it is politics of words of politicians. Khmer politicians used that language against the US all the time. Hun Sen said that too. Cham Prasit said that too after Obama asked for the repay back of the debt Lon Nol borrowed the US.
2. Why and where was the bombing?
The bombing was mainly at the target of the HoChiminh trails and Khmer Vietminh. Yes – of course, affecting some of the innocent lives because it was a war. But I don’t think that much of the number as it is claimed.
3.“ Yellow rain" which caused children to be borned malformed “ is not true. I still believe that US did not do this. This is during the 1973-1974 story which was mainly a thread and scare by politicians. If you looked at it closely, someone else did this. I don’t want to say who did it here.
4. US enemy? Yes – if you put yourself into the shoe of US enemy, US will treat you as such. Anybody, if they are your enemie, that is what they do? China too, what China had done to Cambodia till today?
5. US is good too. US is still donating a lot to Cambodia but mostly thru NGO and Humanitarian forms. This is because US recognized the corruption in Cambodia. US gave capita to Cambodian Govt who sold those to other countries for corruption/easy cash. US created all of these Khmer-Americans like me who have shed lots of cashes, life and everything else into our beloved country. Average of Khmer families in the US have spent equal to about 30% of Cambodian national budget in 2007. I don’t want to say US is all good to Cambodia, but what else do you want US do to you? Do you want US give free military stuffs to Hun Sen like China? Do you want US to do the business with abused/ un-humanized Cambodia government? However, US has done whatever directly helping the people. China actually violates the international business policy. We can talk the whole day about this.
6. OK – Let’s look at China you love so much.
Honestly – I don’t have a problem at all with free cash. But have you got free stuffs from China to Cambodian people? What kind of stuffs now that China gives to Hun Sen and in KR time? What is China policy toward Cambodia now and before? What has China and Chinese illegal immigrants have done to Cambodia? Have Chinese hold guns to protect Prah Vihea? Or have Sino-Khmers in Cambodia donates a pair of shoes to those dark skin Khmer soldiers. Yes – Cambodia has been enjoyed free cash, but where is it from? Is it from China or the West or World Bank? Most big factories in Cambodia are owned by Chinese. Look at what they do to the poor workers. Have they had a idea of profit sharing as the Americans?
Angkor

Seattle, WA

#42 Feb 26, 2013
The Kmer wrote:
<quoted text>
Angkor, are you really Khmer? Have you parents told you anything about America bombing in Cambodia? How do you feel about US still refuse to pay compensation to innocent Cambodian people they sprayed with chemical agent called the "yellow rain" which caused children to be borned malformed??? ARE YOUR REALLY A CAMBODIAN OR JUST DUMB?
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7. We need to ask lots of questions to ourselves and evaluate them. I don’t say you are dumb, but Cambodia we got back from Yuons was not the act of China. It was mainly the joint of the King with the West. Chinese was not there until we got the country back. And now, China is supporting HunSen again, this is to give Yuon economic and military strength again in promoting its politics to swallow the whole Cambodia. Chinese did this in the KR time too, by trading military supplies with innocent Khmer’s hard work (rice) while the other part of KR (Khmer Vietminh) kept killing till Pol Pot found out, then those Khmer Vietminh run back to Vietnam in order to come back to hurt us again today. But today is a little different, China supplies military stuffs directly the Khmer Vietminh who are clearly working for the Yuon Communist Hanoi who are doing every possible mean to swallow the whole nation.
8. Now – Yuons got all the main blood supplies. Example: Angkorwat is the Khmer legacy was given the one Yuon person to generate all the cash to send back home.
9. For you, How can you live so comfortable in your country and watching all of these? How can you still support this Chinese activity which was already a lesson-learned? How can you watch the HunSen’s families, crooks and cronies do to you like this? Are you Hun To or Hun Maneth or Hun Manna? I am not pointing fingers at you, because most Khmers in Cambodia I talked to have the same mentality like you. I feel sorry for our Khmers falling into this today. Please wake up till it is late.
10. I am not preparing to write this. I just write out quickly of what come to my mine in response to your thought/mentality. If I have time, I will do more in the elaborated way.

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