Atheists on the march in America

There are 20 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#68399 Feb 15, 2013
John wrote:
Your nothing is illogical. A forum that repeats nothing is irrational.
You don't have a single example of evidence in this arena that meets the criteria you hold others to.
You don't have any clue how to quantify possibility. For instance, what is most or least likely: prime mover, something from nothing, always was. Show your freethinking.
Now, let us compare your nothing to my something. You loons throw out words like evidence, logical, natural. Pfft, you can't even make up a beginning that is ahem natural.
Simple bigots exposed day after day. Thanks for the help.
Still waiting on you to bring something to the table.

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#68400 Feb 15, 2013
BBSting wrote:
<quoted text>
If atheists can believe NOTHING caused the SOMETHING to form the universe without scientific evidence, the religious can also believe God created the universe without scientific evidence.
For those who believe, or who sense a greater reality, the way to God is by way of the heart, not the intellect. Often the heart already knows what the intellect must rationalize. You cannot objectify that which is not physical (primary consciousness), you can only experience it.
Thats some Existentialism Bullshit that neither religion or science can explain. Really doesn't have much to do with science since we can't prove fiction and fantasy. Neither can religion either.

Shit, I believe more in the eastern religions than I do christianity. At least the eastern religions such a buddhism, taoism and hinduism is promoted to be a guide, which is far more useful in life than a god that everyone disputes.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#68401 Feb 15, 2013
It was sad him being 20 years old in the 5th grade.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
And after 10 years of trying, too!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#68402 Feb 15, 2013
You do know many of your fellow Christians also accept the bing bang?
BBSting wrote:
<quoted text>
If atheists can believe NOTHING caused the SOMETHING to form the universe without scientific evidence, the religious can also believe God created the universe without scientific evidence.
For those who believe, or who sense a greater reality, the way to God is by way of the heart, not the intellect. Often the heart already knows what the intellect must rationalize. You cannot objectify that which is not physical (primary consciousness), you can only experience it.
John

East Saint Louis, IL

#68403 Feb 15, 2013
The bigots skipped my questions again. They also failed to bring any evidence or accountable position in their own forum. Nothing gets nothing. That applies in science and this forum.

March, march, hate the something, march, march, all for nothing.

Welcome to Stumpville!
John

East Saint Louis, IL

#68404 Feb 15, 2013
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost three years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Three years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 65,650 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True
science that is repeatable and observable.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#68405 Feb 16, 2013
BBSting wrote:
<quoted text>
If atheists can believe NOTHING caused the SOMETHING to form the universe without scientific evidence, the religious can also believe God created the universe without scientific evidence.
True-- but the two are hardly equal.

The >>scientific<< approach is evidence-based >>only<<.

As soon as there is evidence? A scientific viewpoint will fit said evidence into the worldview.

In direct contrast to you god-robots: you REJECT any and all evidence that proves your GOD is MYTH.

So.

Who is lying here?

Yes-- that would be YOU.
BBSting wrote:
For those who believe, or who sense a greater reality, the way to God is by way of the heart, not the intellect.
Your "heart" is just a blood-pump, made of meat.

It cannot "sense" anything.

And since you admit you REJECT rationality?(the intellect)

You admit you are ...

... lying here.
BBSting wrote:
Often the heart already knows what the intellect must rationalize.
A meat pump cannot "know", stupid.
BBSting wrote:
You cannot objectify that which is not physical (primary consciousness), you can only experience it.
You can also "experience" insane hallucinations about little green leprechauns.

That does not mean green leprechauns are real.

No more real than your monster-terrorist (god) is.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#68406 Feb 16, 2013
BBSting wrote:
<quoted text>
You have proved that atheists are as fervent in their disbelief in God as the religious are in their belief in God.
No-- atheists demand...

.... EVIDENCE.

You have none, with regards to your god.

But I freely admit that the demand for evidence is strong.

As strong as your demand for ... no evidence.

... sad for you-- you insist in lying (faith) instead.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#68407 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
It was sad him being 20 years old in the 5th grade.
<quoted text>
Indeed it was.

Him being his teacher's "pet" must have been something of an embarrassment too.

What with nuns supposed to be "celibate" and all...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#68408 Feb 16, 2013
John wrote:
<cowardly nothing redacted>
Still no proof of your claims.

You are still lying: many-many atheists have show you the positions they are willing to debate-- you cowardly run away each and every time.
John

East Saint Louis, IL

#68409 Feb 16, 2013
The latest nothing has been brought to you by bigot Bob. Notice he skipped my questions and providence no evidence or accountable position. His magic natural universe is so ridiculous he can't even make it up. Conversely, the scientific disciplines that point to design are myriad. I've already exposed Bob and his crew have absolutely zero evidence or adequate measuring stick for same. Once again I suggest we make our cases and present our accountable positions of belief we are willing to defend.

You see antitheists strangely spend their time attempting to marginalize a God they don't believe in. Yes, its a sign of mental illness but here we are. My accountable position is a prime mover. Let's see what these loons bring. Since 2009 its been zip, zilch, nada. Just name it for now. Short and sweet. Thanks for nothing in advance.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
John

East Saint Louis, IL

#68410 Feb 16, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 65,660 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#68411 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
You do know many of your fellow Christians also accept the bing bang?
<quoted text>
The big bang novelty is easier to accept when you also believe in a CAUSE.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#68412 Feb 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
No-- atheists demand...
.... EVIDENCE.
You have none, with regards to your god.
But I freely admit that the demand for evidence is strong.
As strong as your demand for ... no evidence.
... sad for you-- you insist in lying (faith) instead.
Atheists definitely demand evidence but they also show a grim determination to believe anything science says, without it.

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#68413 Feb 16, 2013
John wrote:
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 65,660 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!
Still waiting on ur evidence.

You really like to hear urself talk dont you?

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#68414 Feb 16, 2013
BBSting wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheists definitely demand evidence but they also show a grim determination to believe anything science says, without it.
Because Atheists believes in science and science requires evidence.

You really that stupid?

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#68415 Feb 16, 2013
BBSting wrote:
<quoted text>
The big bang novelty is easier to accept when you also believe in a CAUSE.
The cause is an exploding star.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#68416 Feb 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
True-- but the two are hardly equal. The >>scientific<< approach is evidence-based >>only<<
As soon as there is evidence? A scientific viewpoint will fit said evidence into the worldview.
That's the theory, but not the practice. There is no scientific evidence proving NOTHING caused the SOMETHING to go bang, but you are willing to believe it anyway...while you wait for science to produce the evidence.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
In direct contrast to you god-robots: you REJECT any and all evidence that proves your GOD is MYTH.
So.
Who is lying here?
Yes-- that would be YOU.
<quoted text>
Your "heart" is just a blood-pump, made of meat.
It cannot "sense" anything.
And since you admit you REJECT rationality?(the intellect)
You admit you are ...
... lying here.
<quoted text>
A meat pump cannot "know", stupid.
<quoted text>
You can also "experience" insane hallucinations about little green leprechauns.
That does not mean green leprechauns are real.
No more real than your monster-terrorist (god) is.
The above harangue is a fine example of hallucinatory thinking.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#68417 Feb 16, 2013
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
<quoted text>
Because Atheists believes in science and science requires evidence.
You really that stupid?
Are you? There is no evidence that NOTHING caused a SOMETHING to go bang yet like the Boob of Quantum Fantasies you believe it anyway and only because it's "scientific".

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#68418 Feb 16, 2013
BBSting wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you? There is no evidence that NOTHING caused a SOMETHING to go bang yet like the Boob of Quantum Fantasies you believe it anyway and only because it's "scientific".
Like an explosion from a dying star that causes a massive supernova?

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