Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70638 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Isaac Asimov

Oak Grove, KY

#63083 Jun 10, 2012
" It's been tried and died innumerable times,"

Except in places like Canada, Switzerland, and a vast majority of some of the richest countries on the face of the plan It's been tried, and proven successful, more times than it's failed, actually.

The fact you equate Karl Marx, the guy who wrote the handbook for COMMUNISM, with SOCIALISM is ignorant though. It shows a severe lack of civics education, probably brought upon by the decline in actual, earned intelligence that the no-child left behind act threw on us.

However, I'll point out several things that completely rule out your theory that Obama really is a Socialist.

1. Socialists don't give the rich massive tax cuts.

2. Socialists don't bail out major corporations with government funds.

3. Socialists don't make universal healthcare laws that gives all of the money to insurance companies, rather than the government itself.

I. Obama has given massive tax cuts to the rich.

II. Obama has supported the bail outs of major corporations with government funds.

III. Obama made a universal healthcare bill that gives all of the profit to Insurance Companies, rather than the government itself.

If Obama -is- a full blown Socialist, rather than the Socialist Democrat he actually is (which is in actuality what most Democrats are to begin with), then he fucking sucks at being a Socialist, and should definitely revisit the drawing board.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#63084 Jun 10, 2012
Isaac Asimov wrote:
" It's been tried and died innumerable times,"
Except in places like Canada, Switzerland, and a vast majority of some of the richest countries on the face of the plan It's been tried, and proven successful, more times than it's failed, actually.
The fact you equate Karl Marx, the guy who wrote the handbook for COMMUNISM, with SOCIALISM is ignorant though. It shows a severe lack of civics education, probably brought upon by the decline in actual, earned intelligence that the no-child left behind act threw on us.
However, I'll point out several things that completely rule out your theory that Obama really is a Socialist.
1. Socialists don't give the rich massive tax cuts.
2. Socialists don't bail out major corporations with government funds.
3. Socialists don't make universal healthcare laws that gives all of the money to insurance companies, rather than the government itself.
I. Obama has given massive tax cuts to the rich.
II. Obama has supported the bail outs of major corporations with government funds.
III. Obama made a universal healthcare bill that gives all of the profit to Insurance Companies, rather than the government itself.
If Obama -is- a full blown Socialist, rather than the Socialist Democrat he actually is (which is in actuality what most Democrats are to begin with), then he fucking sucks at being a Socialist, and should definitely revisit the drawing board.
What garbage. Since childhood, he's been raised a socialist/communist, his mentors and advisors are socialists or anarchists. He joined the NEW Party in the mid '90's, and now he's something different? No fcuking way.
There's one more reason you don't think he's a socialist, he's your kinda guy and 'socialism' doesn't sit well with most Americans. So, on top of everything else, he's deceitful and deceptive.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#63085 Jun 10, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text> How do you know your right? What if your wrong? Your open minded. What if your wrong?

Are you dragging out a version of Pascal's Wager?
If so, you are presenting a false dichotomy.(Look it up.)
The wager presents only two possibilities:
1. The fundie god who torments, for eternity, all who don't guess the right religion and then accept Jesus as savior.
2. Extinction.

But what if god only lets atheists into heaven because he can't stand sycophantic suck ups?

BTW, "your" is second person possessive, "you're" is short for "you are".

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#63086 Jun 10, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Your just being plain stupid? Proof? Proof is all around you. I hope your smarter than what you let on to believe. Nothing just appears. Here is something else you can ponder. Cause and effect. What caused it? What was the effect? If you can answer that then you may get it. If not I have pity for you .
If god were actually real?

Then godly evidence of his existing and interaction would be here.

Is it?

Nope-- there is NO such thing as godly evidence anywhere on earth.

Never has been, in fact.

You True Believers™ even have a word for this lack: faith.

What you call "faith" is the lie you tell yourself, to cover the FACT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR YOUR GODS.

Sorry, but that's the fact-jack.

You lose.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#63087 Jun 10, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text> How do you know your right? What if your wrong? Your open minded. What if your wrong?
If god existed, there would be evidence.

Is there evidence?

No.

Conclusion: your god is non-existent.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#63088 Jun 10, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text> They can't. Everything has a beginning and end. But these poor uneducated people can't answer a single question.
Can YOU answer this?

Where is your OBJECTIVE, GODLY EVIDENCE for your god?

What's that?

You don't HAVE any?

Interesting...

... it appears YOU cannot answer a simple question...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#63089 Jun 10, 2012
guest wrote:
nothing can't answer nothing.
Indeed-- you said it, not I: your nothing god cannot prove he exists, because nothing-god's do not exist.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#63090 Jun 10, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Your just being plain stupid? Proof? Proof is all around you. I hope your smarter than what you let on to believe. Nothing just appears. Here is something else you can ponder. Cause and effect. What caused it? What was the effect? If you can answer that then you may get it. If not I have pity for you .
Evidence points towards a "big bang". What caused it? I don't know. Maybe our concept of "cause and effect" had no meaning at that point. But, I'm not going to accept some clearly absurd and incorrect Bronze Age myth about the beginning of the universe because I don't know.
ARGUING with IDIOTS

United States

#63091 Jun 10, 2012
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Can YOU answer this?

Where is your OBJECTIVE, GODLY EVIDENCE for your god?

What's that?

You don't HAVE any?

Interesting...

... it appears YOU cannot answer a simple question...

Yes I can answer questions! You on the other hand refuse to do do!
Mockery and deception are the only skills you display! Sign of the weak minded!

For example, if I ask a simple question like,

What is your definition of information?

You will be sent into a frenzy and will not be able to provide a rational answer to that question.
ARGUING with IDIOTS

United States

#63092 Jun 10, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>Evidence points towards a "big bang". What caused it? I don't know. Maybe our concept of "cause and effect" had no meaning at that point. But, I'm not going to accept some clearly absurd and incorrect Bronze Age myth about the beginning of the universe because I don't know.
What evidence do you claim points to a singularity? Or is it that you are just stating a view you have been told?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#63093 Jun 10, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>
What evidence do you claim points to a singularity? Or is it that you are just stating a view you have been told?
The red shift. But again, I admit I don't know. And the origin of the universe might even be beyond human understanding, like TCP/IP is beyond the understanding of a cockroach. But, I do know the Creation story in Genesis is a Bronze Age myth, and any rational person should see that.
Isaac Asimov

Oak Grove, KY

#63094 Jun 10, 2012
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
What garbage. Since childhood, he's been raised a socialist/communist, his mentors and advisors are socialists or anarchists. He joined the NEW Party in the mid '90's, and now he's something different? No fcuking way.
There's one more reason you don't think he's a socialist, he's your kinda guy and 'socialism' doesn't sit well with most Americans. So, on top of everything else, he's deceitful and deceptive.
Since childhood, I was raised as a Christian. My friends and mentors were Christians. It doesn't mean I believe in some false incarnation of a benevolent (yet somehow malevolent) savior, who when I die will welcome me into his bosom as long as I give him a percentage of my money and visit his house.

Why do you keep equating Socialism and Communism as the same things. They're not the same thing, and any rudimentary civics class would tell you that. Are you a moron or something?

You're right, though. There is one reason I don't think he's a Socialist. That one reason is, quite obviously, because he's not a Socialist. At least, according to Socialist fundamentals he's not. He can claim to be - even though he doesn't - but his policies prove otherwise.

And what, exactly, do you mean by my kind of guy? If you mean a free-thinker who doesn't let superstitious stupidity guide our hand, I suppose you're right. If you're trying to say he and I have anything other than that in common, though, you couldn't be more wrong.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#63095 Jun 11, 2012
Isaac Asimov wrote:
<quoted text>
Since childhood, I was raised as a Christian. My friends and mentors were Christians. It doesn't mean I believe in some false incarnation of a benevolent (yet somehow malevolent) savior, who when I die will welcome me into his bosom as long as I give him a percentage of my money and visit his house.
Why do you keep equating Socialism and Communism as the same things. They're not the same thing, and any rudimentary civics class would tell you that. Are you a moron or something?
You're right, though. There is one reason I don't think he's a Socialist. That one reason is, quite obviously, because he's not a Socialist. At least, according to Socialist fundamentals he's not. He can claim to be - even though he doesn't - but his policies prove otherwise.
And what, exactly, do you mean by my kind of guy? If you mean a free-thinker who doesn't let superstitious stupidity guide our hand, I suppose you're right. If you're trying to say he and I have anything other than that in common, though, you couldn't be more wrong.
You sound like a smart guy, but then, an empty conch, held to your ear, sounds like the ocean.
Hasn't Obama insisted he's a Christian? Would you rather he be guided by ideological stupidity or "superstitious"? I can only hope he has a similar, though ideological, epiphany, that you seem to have experienced - unfortunately, it won't happen till after November, during civilian life. Be that as it may, an avowed Socialist of any degree is more of a Socialist than I, and that's too much.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#63096 Jun 11, 2012
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
You sound like a smart guy, but then, an empty conch, held to your ear, sounds like the ocean.
Hasn't Obama insisted he's a Christian? Would you rather he be guided by ideological stupidity or "superstitious"? I can only hope he has a similar, though ideological, epiphany, that you seem to have experienced - unfortunately, it won't happen till after November, during civilian life. Be that as it may, an avowed Socialist of any degree is more of a Socialist than I, and that's too much.
What does "socialist" mean? Why do you think being a socialist is a bad thing?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#63097 Jun 11, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes I can answer questions! You on the other hand refuse to do do!
Mockery and deception are the only skills you display! Sign of the weak minded!
For example, if I ask a simple question like,
What is your definition of information?
You will be sent into a frenzy and will not be able to provide a rational answer to that question.
You say you can answer questions...

... yet?

You refuse to do so!

Instead, you try to divert the subject with a nonsense "question" of your own, that has nothing to do with anything.

Classic dodge, on your part-- no answers.

Just stupid, nonsensical "questions".

Nothing, in short-- just like your nothing-god.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#63098 Jun 11, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>
What evidence do you claim points to a singularity? Or is it that you are just stating a view you have been told?
Still no divine evidence of your divine myth.

Conclusion:

Your god is myth.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#63099 Jun 11, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
What does "socialist" mean? Why do you think being a socialist is a bad thing?
He doesn't actually know.

He's heard the term on his favorite Fox Lies channel, and he now thinks it's a real word (even though he uses it as if it's not).

It's truly a sad thing to watch...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#63100 Jun 11, 2012
Isaac Asimov wrote:
<quoted text>
Since childhood, I was raised as a Christian. My friends and mentors were Christians. It doesn't mean I believe in some false incarnation of a benevolent (yet somehow malevolent) savior, who when I die will welcome me into his bosom as long as I give him a percentage of my money and visit his house.
Why do you keep equating Socialism and Communism as the same things. They're not the same thing, and any rudimentary civics class would tell you that. Are you a moron or something?
You're right, though. There is one reason I don't think he's a Socialist. That one reason is, quite obviously, because he's not a Socialist. At least, according to Socialist fundamentals he's not. He can claim to be - even though he doesn't - but his policies prove otherwise.
And what, exactly, do you mean by my kind of guy? If you mean a free-thinker who doesn't let superstitious stupidity guide our hand, I suppose you're right. If you're trying to say he and I have anything other than that in common, though, you couldn't be more wrong.
Yes... yes he is a moron ... or something.

Very sad.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#63101 Jun 11, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
What does "socialist" mean? Why do you think being a socialist is a bad thing?
And here, all along, I thought you were just being facetious.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#63102 Jun 11, 2012
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
He doesn't actually know.
He's heard the term on his favorite Fox Lies channel, and he now thinks it's a real word (even though he uses it as if it's not).
It's truly a sad thing to watch...
Yep.

I've yet to have any of these people who call Obama a socialist tell me what the term actually means.

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