Obama: Gun-control advocates have to listen more

Jan 27, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WOI

16, 2013, file photo, President Barack Obama, accompanied by Vice President Joe Biden, talks about proposals to reduce gun violence at the White House in Washington.

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GUN GRABBER wrote:
Bury your intruments of death in the back yard now and avoid the rush.
Gun owners so called rights are going down.
If you need a 50 round magazine to hunt deer or pigs, you need more training or a better weapon.
The country is now on Obama's side of this issue. You can't win.
There are some really good air guns on the market now. Might be a good time for you shooters to buy one.
Sounds good. When somebody breaks into your home, holds you at gunpoint while forcing you to witness the rape of your wife, go grab your pellet gun.

For the rest of us, when a thief robs a store and turns to aim their firearm at us, we're killing the SOB.

The country is not on DumBama's side of this issue. If we were, legislation would pass to disarm law-biding citizens and allow criminals to have one up on us.

Liberals are Communists only with a less offensive title.

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Terrorist Obama shitting on Americans again and again !
When Terrorist Obama and Hillary Traitor are hung for Treason, it should be televised for the world to see !
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We'll make sure there's a TV up in the belltower, so you can see it too.

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Obamma cries the GOP is unwilling to compromise on guns....
And he fails to grasp
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED......
And you fail to grasp
WELL REGULATED MILITIA......

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xxxrayted wrote:
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Except for the fact that hunters are only in single digit numbers (percentage wise) when it comes to gun owners. People don't care about hunting, they care about protecting themselves and their families.
From what? From whom?
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Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>From what? From whom?
From criminals which happens every day in this country and cities across the US.

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From criminals which happens every day in this country and cities across the US.
There's always your bunker.

Homes with guns are 30 times more likely to have gun injuries than those without guns. And I am not referring to invaders.
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<quoted text>There's always your bunker.
Homes with guns are 30 times more likely to have gun injuries than those without guns. And I am not referring to invaders.
Yes, but that figure includes things like accidental shootings and suicide which there are plenty of in this country.

For people who don't believe in owning a firearm, I say put a large sign on your front porch that says "NO FIREARMS IN THIS HOUSE." The reason criminals are cautious about breaking into occupied homes is the possibility that a resident in the home has a firearm. Take away all guns, and it's just as good as hanging that sign on your porch.

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Yes, but that figure includes things like accidental shootings and suicide which there are plenty of in this country.
For people who don't believe in owning a firearm, I say put a large sign on your front porch that says "NO FIREARMS IN THIS HOUSE." The reason criminals are cautious about breaking into occupied homes is the possibility that a resident in the home has a firearm. Take away all guns, and it's just as good as hanging that sign on your porch.
None of you gun worshippers have answered the main question yet.
Why do you need Clips with more than 10, Rounds,(And I own one) and why do you need assault weapons.
Very simple question.
Did you see the gun nuts in the hearing yesterday attacking the Father who had lost his 7 yr. old son at NewTown?
Is that what gun nuts have become? They couldn't answer that question either. Someone yelled "Right to bear arms." but that is not an answer to the question, is it?

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xxxrayted wrote:
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From criminals which happens every day in this country and cities across the US.
A new survey found that 75% of NRA members support universal ... inagist.com/all/296207396936757248/

A new survey found that 75% of NRA members support universal background checks for ...@usnews Jan 29, 2013 10:45:21 GMT Follow @usnews 8 retweets ...

Strong Majority of Americans, NRA Members Back Gun Control ... www.trueskool.com/xn/detail/1464587:Topic:161...

1 day ago ... Survey indicates broad support for restriction on gun sales By Seth Cline | January ... identified as NRA members, support universal background checks for gun sales..... December 7, 2012 at 10pm to December 8, 2012 at 2am ...

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Anyone else notice when you make a point that validates the importance and impenetrable stance of the second amendment, the moderators pull the post?

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Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>And you fail to grasp
WELL REGULATED MILITIA......
What is YOUR definition of well regulated militia?
Mine is an organized group of citizens to defend the constitution. That organized group of citizens provide their own arms.
Do you think a tyrannical government is going to organize and arm a militia to fight against?

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Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>From what? From whom?
A tyrannical Government! That is what the Second Amendment is all about. You know, the security of a free State?
You have to read the whole Second Amendment! You can't pick and choose segments or phrases to suit your agenda.
Here's the part you CAN NOT get around, "shall not be infringed". It goes along with the rest of the Amendment, in its entirety!

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<quoted text>There's always your bunker.

Homes with guns are 30 times more likely to have gun injuries than those without guns. And I am not referring to invaders.
No, you are referring to gang banger houses, crack houses, biker club houses, vacant houses, and illegal immigrant mass houses.

Tell the whole story if you want to make a valid point! Twisting statistics is the liberal way, and we are onto it.

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<quoted text>Yes, but that figure includes things like accidental shootings and suicide which there are plenty of in this country.

For people who don't believe in owning a firearm, I say put a large sign on your front porch that says "NO FIREARMS IN THIS HOUSE." The reason criminals are cautious about breaking into occupied homes is the possibility that a resident in the home has a firearm. Take away all guns, and it's just as good as hanging that sign on your porch.
Yes, and if anyone wants to know why suicide is so prevalent in this country, they need not look much further than the lack of victors and losers in the education of our children. Today, children grow up learning they can play tee ball, pee wee football, soccer, and any number of formerly competitive sports, and nobody loses the game!
They grow up this way, only to learn later, that not everyone wins.

Suddenly, one has to work hard to be successful. Some can't deal with that.

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<quoted text>None of you gun worshippers have answered the main question yet.
Why do you need Clips with more than 10, Rounds,(And I own one) and why do you need assault weapons.
Very simple question.
Did you see the gun nuts in the hearing yesterday attacking the Father who had lost his 7 yr. old son at NewTown?
Is that what gun nuts have become? They couldn't answer that question either. Someone yelled "Right to bear arms." but that is not an answer to the question, is it?
I can answer that question even though it is irrelevant.
We need MAGAZINES that hold more than 10 rounds because the force we would face if thwarting tyranny magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. We need "Assault Weapons" because the force we would face has "Assault Weapons". You should first figure out why we have a second amendment in the first place. Hint, it has nothing to do with hunting, target shooting, or protecting/defending against criminals. Those things are nice perks, but not why we have the second amendment. We have the second amendment because our founding fathers experienced tyrannical government, and knew by history that every country reaches the point when people fall for the propaganda government feeds them, and are willing to relinquish their rights to that government. That's why the phrase," shall not be infringed" was added.

Now, the reason your point is irrelevant is this. NEED has absolutely nothing to do with it either. US citizens have the right to bear "Assault Weapons" with high capacity magazines weather they need them or not.

As another poster put it, Rosa Parks didn't NEED to sit in the front of the bus, but she had a RIGHT to. You wouldn't tell her she couldn't sit in the front of the bus, but you want to tell people they can't have certain firearms or magazines.

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<quoted text>A new survey found that 75% of NRA members support universal ... inagist.com/all/296207396936757248/

A new survey found that 75% of NRA members support universal background checks for ...@usnews Jan 29, 2013 10:45:21 GMT Follow @usnews 8 retweets ...

Strong Majority of Americans, NRA Members Back Gun Control ... www.trueskool.com/xn/detail/1464587:Topic:161...

1 day ago ... Survey indicates broad support for restriction on gun sales By Seth Cline | January ... identified as NRA members, support universal background checks for gun sales..... December 7, 2012 at 10pm to December 8, 2012 at 2am ...
Surveys are based on numerous factors including the questions asked, and the subjects surveyed. If a survey doesn't offer an answer you agree with, you have to pick the closest one available, but not convey your true beliefs.

One can make surveys say anything they want them to say.

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I can answer that question even though it is irrelevant.
We need MAGAZINES that hold more than 10 rounds because the force we would face if thwarting tyranny magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. We need "Assault Weapons" because the force we would face has "Assault Weapons". You should first figure out why we have a second amendment in the first place. Hint, it has nothing to do with hunting, target shooting, or protecting/defending against criminals. Those things are nice perks, but not why we have the second amendment. We have the second amendment because our founding fathers experienced tyrannical government, and knew by history that every country reaches the point when people fall for the propaganda government feeds them, and are willing to relinquish their rights to that government. That's why the phrase," shall not be infringed" was added.
Now, the reason your point is irrelevant is this. NEED has absolutely nothing to do with it either. US citizens have the right to bear "Assault Weapons" with high capacity magazines weather they need them or not.
As another poster put it, Rosa Parks didn't NEED to sit in the front of the bus, but she had a RIGHT to. You wouldn't tell her she couldn't sit in the front of the bus, but you want to tell people they can't have certain firearms or magazines.
My right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is of no merit?
My right NOT to be gunned down in a movie, in a mall, in a school, my RIGHT TO LIFE supercedes your fantasy right to own weapons made for killing human beings.
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None of you gun worshippers have answered the main question yet.
Why do you need Clips with more than 10, Rounds,(And I own one) and why do you need assault weapons.
Very simple question.
Did you see the gun nuts in the hearing yesterday attacking the Father who had lost his 7 yr. old son at NewTown?
Is that what gun nuts have become? They couldn't answer that question either. Someone yelled "Right to bear arms." but that is not an answer to the question, is it?
It's a shame you don't get your news from a real news station like Fox. Once again, you libs have been had. NBC did another George Zimmerman on that tape you heard of the father. They snipped out the part where the father asked the same question you did: why do you need high capacity clips and assault weapons? You really have to quit getting your news from liars like NBC/ MSNBC.

Why do we need clips with more than 10 rounds? For one, longer range targets are harder to hit and may result in missed shots. Two, people who have used their firearms in the past use them against more than one person--usually two or three people.

One of the first things you learn in firearm self-defense is that going to the range for target practice is not like defending your life against another person with a firearm. You don't have time to think, breathe properly or take careful and time consuming aim. It's usually a split second decision.

Here are a few things you should look at: The first is a story about a woman in Georgia who was forced to defend herself and children by shooting (not killing) the intruder that broke into her home. Thankfully, there was only one intruder, otherwise she and her kids might not be alive. Why? Because she only had a revolver. As we know, revolvers don't hold much more (and usually less) than seven rounds:

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hi...

Next is a real video. This is a video of highly trained police officers. They have countless hours of training and practice to be a police officer. Yet, look what can happen when your heart is pumping and you think you may die. Count the rounds fired out of the weapons and pay close attention to the range between the cop and the shooters. You may want to fast-foward to the last few minutes of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Now do you understand why we need high capacity magazines?

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Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
<quoted text>My right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is of no merit?
My right NOT to be gunned down in a movie, in a mall, in a school, my RIGHT TO LIFE supercedes your fantasy right to own weapons made for killing human beings.
Absolutely your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness has merit. But not at the expense of everyone else's right to keep and bear arms. Your right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness is YOUR responsibility, not mine, and not everyone else's.
you are wrong! Your right does not supersede mine! If you want exercise your right not to be gunned down in those gun free zones, 1) push for elimination of gun free zones! 2) arm yourself, utilize the amendment you want to infringe.
If its not important enough to you to do those things, then becoming a victim is on you. Not me. Not the rest of the country.
Take responsibility for your rights and freedoms.

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Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
<quoted text>My right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is of no merit?
My right NOT to be gunned down in a movie, in a mall, in a school, my RIGHT TO LIFE supercedes your fantasy right to own weapons made for killing human beings.
The constitution and bill of rights gave you what you need for all of those things. Since you choose to exercise some of your rights, and not others, you think it's my responsibility to give up the rights you choose not to utilize?

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