Obama: Gun-control advocates have to ...

Obama: Gun-control advocates have to listen more

There are 673 comments on the WOI story from Jan 27, 2013, titled Obama: Gun-control advocates have to listen more. In it, WOI reports that:

16, 2013, file photo, President Barack Obama, accompanied by Vice President Joe Biden, talks about proposals to reduce gun violence at the White House in Washington.

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Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#255 Feb 4, 2013
Say the Truth wrote:
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But if they choose certain styles of guns, then they are "gamers" who like Rambo and are likely to shoot up schools.
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Exactly. What type weapons does these gun nuts choose primarily in mass gun school shootings?
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#256 Feb 4, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>I do not accept youtube for a reliable source. Try again with a reliable source.
Footage is not a reliable source for you? Then what is?

She proposed making all semi-automatic weapons illegal. And yes, that includes handguns.

In other words, she wants criminals to have the advantage over citizens who would only be allowed to carry or use revolver guns. Revolvers shoot much slower and because more pressure is needed to get to the next round, it makes them less accurate.

Criminals don't obey laws. That's why we call them criminals. NYC banned any magazine that holds more than 7 rounds. That's fine if your opponent is within a couple of feet, but not so fine if you have three or four attackers at a distance.

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Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#257 Feb 4, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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So you're comparing actual footage of how easily a clip can be changed to UFO's? Now that's a stretch.
Fine, then why don't you ask somebody who owns semi-automatics to demonstrate how easy it is to change clips live? Maybe that will illustrate how foolish it is to believe that clip size actually matters. If you don't have friends with those weapons, go to a shooting range or gun store and ask them to give you a demonstration.
I think I can change my clip faster than that shooter in the video. He reached in his left pocket for his second clip whereas I would have had the second magazine already in my left hand while shooting with my right. It's not that talented of a trick. Anybody can do it.
Not when it is on youtube. Hell, I can watch cartoons and get the same guality of info.

I care not how fast you can take your eye off target, eject magazine, align mag, insert, refocus and resight, and pull trigger there is still elapsed time for the target victim to react.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#258 Feb 4, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly. What type weapons does these gun nuts choose primarily in mass gun school shootings?
The Virginia Tech shooter only had 7 round magazines.

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Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#259 Feb 4, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Footage is not a reliable source for you? Then what is?
She proposed making all semi-automatic weapons illegal. And yes, that includes handguns.
In other words, she wants criminals to have the advantage over citizens who would only be allowed to carry or use revolver guns. Revolvers shoot much slower and because more pressure is needed to get to the next round, it makes them less accurate.
Criminals don't obey laws. That's why we call them criminals. NYC banned any magazine that holds more than 7 rounds. That's fine if your opponent is within a couple of feet, but not so fine if you have three or four attackers at a distance.
Who's she?

Nope, not footage from youtube, you may have saw the footage where Elvis was shown over three times last week in Wal Mart.{sic}

I will accept any state, national, world organizations where their broadcasts have been proven to be above reproach.

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Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#260 Feb 4, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
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The Virginia Tech shooter only had 7 round magazines.
And I said primarily, not in every case.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#261 Feb 4, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Not when it is on youtube. Hell, I can watch cartoons and get the same guality of info.
I care not how fast you can take your eye off target, eject magazine, align mag, insert, refocus and resight, and pull trigger there is still elapsed time for the target victim to react.
A victim can react in a fraction of a second? I'm a black belt in Karate, and I can tell you that it's impossible to take down a gunman in a second of time.

Again, your comment shows you have no experience with weapons. Anybody who does knows quite well how fast you can change a magazine and continue shooting (accurately) without missing a beat. What you don't like about the video is that it's reality, and not some concocted claim by anti-gun Democrats who (like you) have no real knowledge of guns or shooting.

What I posted was not an opinion piece, nor was it a claim in wording. The video shows how quickly a magazine can be changed, and you don't like it because it proves that you're wrong in the thinking that magazine size would make a difference. it doesn't. In fact, in advanced gun training techniques, they insert a squib (a dead round) into the magazine to see how quickly you eject the bad round and continue shooting.

Since: Dec 12

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#262 Feb 4, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Most people have become more civilized when it comes to gun violence.
ROTFLMAO !
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#263 Feb 4, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Who's she?
Nope, not footage from youtube, you may have saw the footage where Elvis was shown over three times last week in Wal Mart.{sic}
I will accept any state, national, world organizations where their broadcasts have been proven to be above reproach.
Then read it for yourself:

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Feinste...

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Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#264 Feb 4, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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A victim can react in a fraction of a second? I'm a black belt in Karate, and I can tell you that it's impossible to take down a gunman in a second of time.
Again, your comment shows you have no experience with weapons. Anybody who does knows quite well how fast you can change a magazine and continue shooting (accurately) without missing a beat. What you don't like about the video is that it's reality, and not some concocted claim by anti-gun Democrats who (like you) have no real knowledge of guns or shooting.
What I posted was not an opinion piece, nor was it a claim in wording. The video shows how quickly a magazine can be changed, and you don't like it because it proves that you're wrong in the thinking that magazine size would make a difference. it doesn't. In fact, in advanced gun training techniques, they insert a squib (a dead round) into the magazine to see how quickly you eject the bad round and continue shooting.
If you are still speaking of the youtube video I have not watched it so you can either show another reliable source I will view it and respond until then you are only talking to yourself!

If the victim has time to pull his weapon while you are reloading and puts a slug in a vital spot yes most definitely a shooter can be dropped before he can reload.

Black belt in what arts?

Since: Dec 12

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#265 Feb 4, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Not "king" and what "authority", just freedom of expression. It's my right to have an opinion. That opinion is, gun nuts {people who use militatry type weapons to use in mass shootings} I have never insinuated that any legal "sane" gun owner is a gun nut.

Where id you post "gun nut mentality is backed by facts and satistics"?
You do have freedom of expression. Maybe that's what we should be pushing to ban. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

I didn't post it as gun nut mentality facts and statistics. You have YOUR definition of "gun nut mentality" and what it would say. It matches the facts and statistics I've posted repeatedly. It's not hard to find. Look at the FBI statistics on gun murder. Apparently you do your best to ignore those facts and statistics.

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Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#266 Feb 4, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Then read it for yourself:
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Feinste...
Good article but if you would show one parqagraph where she states "every gun should be banned", after all that was your contention was it not?

Since: Dec 12

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#267 Feb 4, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Do not use youtube to try and prove an agernda.

Many victims of gun nuts are within striking range.

Sure other guns can do the same damage as military type weapons but gun nuts do not choose these other weapons to use in mass school shootings.
Translation: let us ban your modern semi automatic rifles with high capacity magazines. When that ban doesn't work, we'll start the proceedings to ban the other guns one style at a time, until none are legal.

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Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#268 Feb 4, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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ROTFLMAO !
Yes, there are more legal and safe gun owners than the opposite, because civillized peoples understand how quickly misuse {duels, vigilantyism, safety issuers} can becomne the norm.

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#269 Feb 4, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>hHHHMMMM, there was no modern military type weapons with high capaciity magazines in the 30's.
Are you serious? Lmao! You are wrong! Plain and simple!
Look up Thompson Submachine Gun. Produced 1921 to present.

Quit flaunting your ignorance.

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Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#270 Feb 4, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Translation: let us ban your modern semi automatic rifles with high capacity magazines. When that ban doesn't work, we'll start the proceedings to ban the other guns one style at a time, until none are legal.
Here we go again, they take this military type weapon and next they will want my child water gun!

The ol NRA money grabbing propaganda headline! Buy more guns, buy more guns they {?} are coming after all guns!

And they are exactly who again? Our military, our police, our first reponders,etc.?

Who? Easy question, and if you are so sure of this "take over" {urban legend} then let us know.

Since: Dec 12

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#271 Feb 4, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>And again tell me who are attempting to "make every gun illegal in this country"?

With you answer please give a reliable source that supports your and their contentions.
The second amendment doesn't say, shall not be banned. It doesn't say, shall not be made illegal. It doesn't say, shall not be confiscated.

The second amendment says, "shall not be infringed". Although all the previously mentioned would infringe the right to keep and bear arms, it only takes an attempt to limit or undermine, to violate the second amendment.

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#272 Feb 4, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>And again tell me who are attempting to "make every gun illegal in this country"?

With you answer please give a reliable source that supports your and their contentions.
Do you attempt the same talking point with every poster you encounter? Even after being debunked?

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Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#273 Feb 4, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Are you serious? Lmao! You are wrong! Plain and simple!
Look up Thompson Submachine Gun. Produced 1921 to present.
Quit flaunting your ignorance.
Hey, you're right. Strange, but after being wrong so ofter you actually did got something right.

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Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#274 Feb 4, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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You do have freedom of expression. Maybe that's what we should be pushing to ban. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
I didn't post it as gun nut mentality facts and statistics. You have YOUR definition of "gun nut mentality" and what it would say. It matches the facts and statistics I've posted repeatedly. It's not hard to find. Look at the FBI statistics on gun murder. Apparently you do your best to ignore those facts and statistics.
Why would we want to ban freedom of expressionn it doesn't rip flesh from bone as military type weapons often do.

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