Gun control debate heating up in statehouses

[Denny CranesPlace]

Spocko wrote:

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The first victim was the shooter’s mom cut down with here own arsenal, stop letting the NRA do the thinking for you – yemoron!!

The first to die owned guns but that doesn't mean she was armed when she was murdered by her son

[duzitreallymatte r]

Spocko wrote:

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No one is going to take your gun - yemoron!!

I didn't see that anywhere in my post. But you did confirm my suspicion you would duck, dodge, swirl & twist words. Surprise, surprise!

But notably absent, from your response, was an answer from you to my questions.

[Armed Veteran]

Spocko wrote:

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The first victim was the shooter’s mom cut down with here own arsenal, stop letting the NRA do the thinking for you – yemoron!!

A couple handguns, an AR, and a shotgun does not an arsenal make. And what is your proof that she had any of these on her person when she was shot??? She would have to actually have one on her person in order to be considered "armed".

[Spocko]

Denny CranesPlace wrote:

<quoted text>The first to die owned guns but that doesn't mean she was armed when she was murdered by her son

Hit your head today falling off your pink unicorn - yemoron?

[Tray]

Spocko wrote:

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No one is going to take your gun - yemoron!!

THAT is absolutely correct.

[Tray]

Spocko wrote:

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The first victim in Newtown was heavily armed and now she's dead because of it – clearly the argument for more guns is hardly the answer to the problem. An argument can be made that the 2nd amendment is hopelessly outdated and obsolete – every gun needs to be registered on a yearly bases and require liability insurance. The wingnuz clinging to their guns like a baby clinging to its woobie is reminiscent to the creationist nonsense! We know more about nature and its evolutionary continuum than ever before and we know it clearly and without a doubt, yet here are the wingnuz, knowing it better by regression like a bunch of degenerates! Next time you see a member of Congress pushing a pro-gun agenda, ask them why they feel the U.S. government needs to be overthrown. Ask them why they support terrorism. The Second Amendment has been voided by history and was never in place for any of the reasons the NRA, any senator or congressman has given as a reason for opposing sensible gun regulation since Reconstruction. Besides, the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with gun-control in a modern society!

Why do police carry guns? Why do secret service carry guns? If they don't work and cause more harm than good then shouldn't they give up theirs first? Drum roll please.

[duzitreallymatte r]

Tray wrote:

<quoted text> Why do police carry guns? Why do secret service carry guns? If they don't work and cause more harm than good then shouldn't they give up theirs first? Drum roll please.

Cue the crickets...

[___Jenny___]

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>That just shows how great and effective the strict Gun Control laws of Chicago are working for the law abiding citizens of Chicago for years and the Pro Gun Control fanatics want to expand that kind of Society Chicago is experiencing and turn the rest of the United States into a Society like Chicago, No Thanks!.
Chicago girl who was in Washington during Obama inauguration is shot dead
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/chicag...

Right as I type this there is a bad situation in Alabama. An armed man got on a school bus and killed the bus driver and kidnapped a 5 year old off the bus. He didn't know the boy, he just picked one of the children at random. He's holding the child in an underground bunker and for three days police have been unable to get into it without the boy being killed. Alabama is a gun state where guns are legal.

A few days ago a six year old girl was shot in New Mexico. Someone Began shooting at someone out on the street and a stray bullet went though her bedroom wall and hit her in bed. New Mexico is a gun state where guns are legal.

Violence is 'everywhere'. It's just worse in older larger cities. But killing is everywhere.

Don't let your hatred for your own President warp your mind. There's too much violence and it has to be stopped.

[___Jenny___]

duzitreallymatter wrote:

<quoted text>This has to be a misprint with the news media. Chicago has a tough gun ban.

See my last post.

Btw, gun laws do not work if all a criminal has to do is drive out of the city limits or to anther state to get guns. Criminals find that easy to do. The proof is that so many criminals have them.

What this is about is getting as many as possible out the hands of criminals and dangerous people.

[duzitreallymatte r]

___Jenny___ wrote:

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See my last post.
Btw, gun laws do not work if all a criminal has to do is drive out of the city limits or to anther state to get guns. Criminals find that easy to do. The proof is that so many criminals have them.
What this is about is getting as many as possible out the hands of criminals and dangerous people.

I will bet none of them have to drive out of the gun ban area to buy them. What isn't being admitted (or perhaps understood) by the anti-gun advocates is the criminals are not slowed down by a ban, background checks, magazine capacity, etc. What a ban does is keep the non-criminals from protecting themselves - the way the criminals (and LEOs) can.

[duzitreallymatte r]

___Jenny___ wrote:

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There's too much violence and it has to be stopped.

How about banning plea bargaining gun crimes? The gun crime is almost always plea bargained out of the charges. This will only cause the criminals issues.

[Ronald]

duzitreallymatter wrote:

<quoted text>How about banning plea bargaining gun crimes? The gun crime is almost always plea bargained out of the charges. This will only cause the criminals issues.

How about EXECUTION for anyone discharging a firearm in the direction of a person?

Except in cases of bonified self defense.

[RayOne]

The elected who keep the control of personal protection close to the people is wise.
Washington DC, and the politicians of northern California should take the chair in the corner.

[CTM]

RayOne wrote:

The elected who keep the control of personal protection close to the people is wise.
Washington DC, and the politicians of northern California should take the chair in the corner.

.......We are seeing more and more politicians betraying the people for their own gain. Not being anti-semetic, but I still haven't heard of a jew politician backing up the second amendment. As for the betrayal, Sen. Blumenthal from Ct. wrote a lot of Feinsteins anti-gun bill. From Connecticut, home of the Enfield Rifle, from Enfield ,Ct. Also the home of Sturm-Ruger, Charter Arms and Colt. It's become apparent why the politicians have bought off the parents of the slain children,(the constant anti-gun parade), but now I ask, how? How does one justify not asking for the true motive of such a crime? How does one find the strength to go on "tour"? How does one not cry?

[RayOne]

The monsters aways seem to have money.

[Anonymous of Indy]

___Jenny___ wrote:

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Right as I type this there is a bad situation in Alabama. An armed man got on a school bus and killed the bus driver and kidnapped a 5 year old off the bus. He didn't know the boy, he just picked one of the children at random. He's holding the child in an underground bunker and for three days police have been unable to get into it without the boy being killed. Alabama is a gun state where guns are legal.
A few days ago a six year old girl was shot in New Mexico. Someone Began shooting at someone out on the street and a stray bullet went though her bedroom wall and hit her in bed. New Mexico is a gun state where guns are legal.
Violence is 'everywhere'. It's just worse in older larger cities. But killing is everywhere.
Don't let your hatred for your own President warp your mind. There's too much violence and it has to be stopped.

not on the level it is in Chicago and why I dont care for Chicago and all Obama did today is blame the surrounding area around Chicago for Chicago's gun problems and the surrounding area does not have the gun problems that Chicago has but Chicago problems of violence is spilling over into areas surrounding Chicago especially Northwest Indiana.

[Ronald]

___Jenny___ wrote:

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Right as I type this there is a bad situation in Alabama. An armed man got on a school bus and killed the bus driver and kidnapped a 5 year old off the bus. He didn't know the boy, he just picked one of the children at random. He's holding the child in an underground bunker and for three days police have been unable to get into it without the boy being killed. Alabama is a gun state where guns are legal.
A few days ago a six year old girl was shot in New Mexico. Someone Began shooting at someone out on the street and a stray bullet went though her bedroom wall and hit her in bed. New Mexico is a gun state where guns are legal.
Violence is 'everywhere'. It's just worse in older larger cities. But killing is everywhere.
Don't let your hatred for your own President warp your mind. There's too much violence and it has to be stopped.

Bus driver stabbed to death:

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story...

[Psych meds N shootings]

What's Causing These School Shootings - Guns or Psychiatric Drugs?

http://curtiscrx25.newsvine.com/_news/2012/12...

NEW YORK – From the moment news emerged Friday that a young man had carried out a horrific massacre of elementary-school children, politicians from local city halls to the White House have been restoking the age-old push for more gun control. While guns have been a common denominator in mass slayings at schools by teens, there’s another familiar element that seems increasingly to be minimized.

Some 90 percent of school shootings over more than a decade have been linked to a widely prescribed type of antidepressant called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors or SSRIs, according to British psychiatrist Dr. David Healy, a founder of RxISK.org , an independent website for researching and reporting on prescription drugs.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/psych-meds-linked-...

[RayOne]

I want to see a report on the post psychotic drug treatment and observation.

Psych meds N shootings wrote:

What's Causing These School Shootings - Guns or Psychiatric Drugs?
http://curtiscrx25.newsvine.com/_news/2012/12...
NEW YORK – From the moment news emerged Friday that a young man had carried out a horrific massacre of elementary-school children, politicians from local city halls to the White House have been restoking the age-old push for more gun control. While guns have been a common denominator in mass slayings at schools by teens, there’s another familiar element that seems increasingly to be minimized.
Some 90 percent of school shootings over more than a decade have been linked to a widely prescribed type of antidepressant called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors or SSRIs, according to British psychiatrist Dr. David Healy, a founder of RxISK.org , an independent website for researching and reporting on prescription drugs.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/psych-meds-linked-...

[CTM]

RayOne wrote:

The monsters aways seem to have money.

...... How many of you know that each family has just received a check for $40,000.00. And that is from just one fund. Was there any kind of outpouring like that for ANY of the other massacres? On channel 6 Ct. NBC last night.