Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation. Read more

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#24268 Mar 9, 2013
US Huh wrote:
Scientist at the Institute of John Q Public have determined that the cause of global warming has been attributed to one geographical area on Earth. That place is D.C. Scientist have found very telling evidence of a large output of hot gases emanating from the Capitol Building and the White House. Scientist conclude that the only way to reverse the trend is with one simple solution- throwout all the incumbents.
Start with the Liberals!

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#24269 Mar 9, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I could, but even if you could understand it, you would not accept it because you're a dogmatic ideologue. BTW, you've never asked me this incredibly lame diversionary question before, so why make it seem like I refused to answer?

That said, I do refuse .... precisely because it's an incredibly lame diversionary tactic to avoid your utter failure.

Can you post any actual science that supports your denial? Hmmm?
When I preheat my oven to 350 degrees Fahrenheit, I sometimes, not always but few times, found it made blocks of ice.

I am planing to replace my ice dispenser for my oven.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#24270 Mar 9, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>I did find it tedious that you repeated unsupported and ridiculously improbable CT (How did Gore corrupt every competent climate scientist into falsifying all of the published, peer-reviewed science and every national science academy on the planet?) while completely ignoring the openly available information regarding the origins and funding of denial.

And your inability to post science or concede is getting damn tedious, too. ;o)
Are all GW alarmist socialist, communist or Liberals?

Can you show me a real conservative who is also an GW alarmist?

What happened to the year 2,000 mass hunger you guys predicted?

See? You guys predicted back in the 70's that by the year 2000, there will be shortage of necessary metals for hospital equipment, food processing, life support, medicine, transportation, cooking, well being, survival, etc!

Capitalist predicted the OPPOSITE! Shortage of metals mean higher prices so greater motivation to explore and mine metals!

Who was right?

We Conservatives were right as always!

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#24271 Mar 9, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>Political ideology has ZERO effect on validity of science. The subject of the thread is GW; all the infantile attempts to conflated your many distractions with the science are not only tiresome, they serve to show the vacuity of denier science.
Do you agree with banning asthma inhaler to kids to stop global warning?

Yes, No, or I am clueless!

A simple question deserves a simple answer, except when asked to a Liberal.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#24272 Mar 9, 2013
WTF wrote:
<quoted text>Money sometimes is a good tool to use when trying to influence someone. Al Gore would know that to, being a fat cat DC politician.
For twenty millions I would also lie about Global Warming!

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#24273 Mar 9, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>One or two claim to do so.

Thousands actually know that it's incredibly well supported science with thousands of peer reviewed, published studies looking at it from many, many angles.

Your use of Argument by Bare Assertion = a very clear concession that you couldn't formulate a valid argument with a gun to your head.

What a complete loser! Keep posting, dude; you're our secret weapon; exposing denial for the idiocy that it is.
Kyle said "One or two claim to do so."

Facts: 31,487 to be exact and growing!

You are factually wrong! stop watching MSNBC, they are lying to you!

http://www.petitionproject.org/
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#24274 Mar 9, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
When I preheat my oven to 350 degrees Fahrenheit, I sometimes, not always but few times, found it made blocks of ice.
I am planing to replace my ice dispenser for my oven.
Reminds me of those GREEN evenings when we are supposed to turn OFF all our electrical appliances.

Irritates my wife but I go around and turn EVERYTHING ON!!

You know electric ovens, heaters, microwave, toaster, arc welder, vacume, etc..

I enjoy seeing all the GREENIES in the area turning off their lights. Meanwhile my oven burns as much as a blocks lights.
Rich Slew

Seattle, WA

#24275 Mar 9, 2013
It's would be "block's" and you're clearly a complete idiot, under every moniker.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#24276 Mar 9, 2013
Vacuum, not "vacume."
Rich Slew

Seattle, WA

#24278 Mar 9, 2013
Ralph wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, so earth is being warmed by human activity.
So why has the Minnesota winter been colder than normal?
It's easy to claim the earth is burning up getting hotter each year then how can it magically cool down this year?
Overall, winters have warmed about two to four degrees in the past 30 years or so. One good way to measure it is to look at these number of subzero lows that we're seeing at night. There are distinct trends that are emerging in the past 30 to 40 years toward fewer subzero low temperatures in Minnesota and the Twin Cities.

Quick example: this year we've had five days so far, last year we had three. That's a very low number. If you go back to the 1970s - the whole decade - we had 444 subzero days. During the 1980s we had 280, during the 1990s we had 256; down to 198 in the 2000s. That's a 57% drop in those subzero nights. If you look at that overall the trend lines show we could be down to around 10 on average per winter. We used to average about 30 back in the '70s and we could be maybe closer to zero by 2040. By 2040, in the Twin Cities we could be very close to few or any subzero nights if our current climate trends continue.
Kyle

Knox, IN

#24279 Mar 10, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually the Earth rise in temperatures is caused by the weakening magnetic force field of Earth allowing sun flares more impact on our climate.
Nothin about SUV's nor asthma inhalers killing polar bears.
I missed this nugget of denialist BS. Please post a link to real science that supports your claim.

Or not, which is a concession, of course.
Kyle

Knox, IN

#24280 Mar 10, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Liberals destroy anyone who disagrees!
Typical Liberal Standard operation procedure!
If you guys spend more time doing real unbiased science work instead of spending 98% of your time attacking the objective scientists then the real numbers will show up.
Global Warming Petition
31,487 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,029 with PhDs
http://www.petitionproject.org/
GLOBAL WARMING IS A SOCIALIST HOAX
That petition has been long revealed for the denialist lie that it surely is:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/news.php...

The qualifications they used are so loose that millions who know nothing of climate and even precious little of science qualify. Thus, the seemingly impressive numbers represent ~0.1% of those "qualified".

Fields directly concerned with climate also failed in similar fashion. In fact, the number of climatoligists (if we can even believe this unvarified and unvarifiable list) is 39. Out of 31487. 39.

Go ahead and read the link, nut I fully expect you to refuse to process it and that you'll use this dishonest petition in the future. Such is the way of all deniers.
Kyle

Knox, IN

#24281 Mar 10, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Liberals care so much about the kids that they made asthma inhalers possession a federal crime punishable by imprison.
I see that desperation has you doubling down on lies. Care to support this one?
Kyle

Knox, IN

#24282 Mar 10, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
You evaded the point, liberal SOP.
No, not at all. I posted that in response to your two phenomena rant about Obama being a secret Mooslim terrorist, etc. The only point worth making in the context of the discussion about the undeniability of GW is that such a post is an attempt at diversion, a sure sign of desperation, and a de facto concession, not to mention LOONY!
Kyle

Knox, IN

#24283 Mar 10, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop calling me names and show me a non-Liberals scientists pro GW and I will listen.
So far, every single GW alarmist being a socialists hack!
I don't expect you to support this bare assertion either, but I must ask you to provide evidence that somewhere between 97% and 99.9%(depending upon definitions of disagreement with the consensus view) are "socialist hacks".

As with your other implosion, failure to support your assertion is a concession.
Kyle

Knox, IN

#24284 Mar 10, 2013
Ralph wrote:
<quoted text>
"The warming trend will accelerate as seen already."
But But But, THIS WINTER is below (COOLER) than normal in Minnesota...
Do you have a logical response?
BTW, you can take all your PHDs and remember they all have opinions just like everyone else.
Hey, all you nutters. Are you proud to associate yourselves with arguments like Ralph's? This is the third time he's made the retarded "it's cold somewhere now" argument AFTER being educated on its idiocy!

Then he equates millions of hours of scientific research, published and peer reviewed, with your uneducated opinions!

What more can I say? Are you proud? Do you agree with him?!
Kyle

Knox, IN

#24285 Mar 10, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
When I preheat my oven to 350 degrees Fahrenheit, I sometimes, not always but few times, found it made blocks of ice.
I am planing to replace my ice dispenser for my oven.
You'll have to explain this bit of idiocy; I'm too rational to get inside the head of denier loons. Is it perhaps just a twist on Ralph's repeated failure to seperate weather from climate? Or is it a way of claiming that it's actually cooling without actually claiming it?(Because you know you can't defend it)

Hmmm? What the effect does your BS mean other than the already revealed desperate attempt to evade -

POSTING ANY SCIENCE SUPPORTING YOUR DENIAL!
Kyle

Knox, IN

#24286 Mar 10, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Are all GW alarmist socialist, communist or Liberals?
I already told you at least twice that I’m a conservative libertarian acceptor of science.
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you show me a real conservative who is also an GW alarmist?
I’m a real conservative acceptor of science. So were some of the GOP presidential contenders until the primary battle in which the anti-science rubes dominated.
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
What happened to the year 2,000 mass hunger you guys predicted?
Who are "my guys"? You don't make sense. But right now, I don’t care because it has nothing to do with climate science. You’re evading.
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Who was right? We Conservatives were right as always!
Oh, I understand now. Apparently, you’re not just so irrational that you can’t detect the difference between science and politics; you seem to think that “conservative” is the antonym of “scientist”. Your concession is accepted.

Now let's see what your evasions were evading. Your non-response was to this:

"I did find it tedious that you repeated unsupported and ridiculously improbable CT (How did Gore corrupt every competent climate scientist into falsifying all of the published, peer-reviewed science and every national science academy on the planet?) while completely ignoring the openly available information regarding the origins and funding of denial.

And your inability to post science or concede is getting damn tedious, too. ;o)"

How will you evade the obvious this time?
Kyle

Knox, IN

#24287 Mar 10, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you agree with banning asthma inhaler to kids to stop global warning?
Does every sane person here agree that this is an insanely transparent evasion from the FACT that he can't support his views with science?
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, No, or I am clueless!
Yes, No, or you're a denier, too, and therefore incapable of criticizing a fellow nutter, no matter how asinine their arguments?
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
A simple question deserves a simple answer, except when asked to a Liberal.
I didn't realize that you were a liberal! That explains why you can't answer this simple question:

"Why can't you post some real science that supports the denier position?"

Hmmm?
Kyle

Knox, IN

#24288 Mar 10, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
For twenty millions I would also lie about Global Warming!
Wow! Think how much you would lie for many times that.(The denier funding by industry and billionaires who own them.)

Actually, you are. You just may not know it because you're so gullible that you believe it unquestioningly.

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