Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

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Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Amused Slew

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YYes ?? Poor P-ppppenny...

Of course, I'm "postiong" dead, just like your Global Warming credibility.

If you REALLY want a laugh, imagine Penny putting all those "judging marks" up after we copy/paste posts....

Hi, Mistake a minute P-P-Penny,
How are Sheldon and Leonard...
Ps- Almost a moron, stick with it.
People say that you are the perfect idiot. I say that you are not perfect, but you are doing alright.
Ordinarily people live and learn. You just live

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Global warming is wonderful. We should burn more fossil fuel, to keep warm. Let's all emit greenhouse gas like its going out of style. Live for today; when you die you can conserve; forever.
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Brian_G wrote:
Global warming is wonderful. We should burn more fossil fuel, to keep warm. Let's all emit greenhouse gas like its going out of style. Live for today; when you die you can conserve; forever.
Sorry to hear about your sterility. I myself have children. I'd like to leave a little something behind for them. Your scorched earth approach is as shallow and selfish as could be. But I suppose you make a buck or two for it huh?

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Do you know why Intelligent Design is bogus science? There are no experimental tests that show any effect that another theory can also explain. It just adds a metaphysical element, as if our greenhouse gas emissions might scorch the Earth for them. I'm not sterile, I've got kids and you've got to earn something to leave behind, if that's what you choose.

I prefer to teach my children to adapt and overcome, not expect handouts. Life doesn't owe anyone a living.

BTW, How do you think anyone can 'make a buck or two for it'? I find Topix is mostly a waste of time.
Amused Slew

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"I find Topix is mostly a waste of time."

In your case, a COMPLETE waste of time.
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[QUOTE who="marred & tinny joke"]Liberal's SIN[/QUOTE]

Liberal sins are more earned science, engineering & mathematics degrees than re-pubic-lick-uns, so practical wealth-building occurs.

Liberal sins are more voters getting in the way of re-pubic-lick-uns who give more money to rich people. Re-pubic-lick-uns have fewer people, so must politically gain power through back-door politics.

Good thing 'marred & tinny joke' ain't god, because he ain't good or just, but does believe that others need to sacrifice so that the royal kings & queens of money........ will have more money.

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Brian_G wrote:
Do you know why Intelligent Design is bogus science? There are no experimental tests that show any effect that another theory can also explain. It just adds a metaphysical element, as if our greenhouse gas emissions might scorch the Earth for them. I'm not sterile, I've got kids and you've got to earn something to leave behind, if that's what you choose.
Actually a scorched earth IS part of the legacy you right wingers are leaving our children from ignoring global warming.

Other than droughts and failed agriculture harvests? Flooded coastlines from the melted ice caps and oceans in crisis from reduced fish harvests and coral reefs. See the added CO2 is also making the oceans warmer and more acidic.

It will take more than your money to fix the mess you are leaving them.
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Brain Gone has no money, just a moronic mouth and a simpleton attitude....
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litesong wrote:
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Liberal sins are more earned science, engineering & mathematics degrees than re-pubic-lick-uns, so practical wealth-building occurs.
Liberal sins are more voters getting in the way of re-pubic-lick-uns who give more money to rich people. Re-pubic-lick-uns have fewer people, so must politically gain power through back-door politics.
Good thing 'marred & tinny joke' ain't god, because he ain't good or just, but does believe that others need to sacrifice so that the royal kings & queens of money........ will have more money.
In addition, you think topix does not know what you publish. Attacks on me will not delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.
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YYes ?? Poor P-ppppenny...

Of course, I'm "postiong" dead, just like your Global Warming credibility.

If you REALLY want a laugh, imagine Penny putting all those "judging marks" up after we copy/paste posts....

Hi, Mistake a minute P-P-Penny,
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Ps- Almost a moron, stick with it.
People say that you are the perfect idiot. I say that you are not perfect, but you are doing alright.
Ordinarily people live and learn. You just live

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Actually a scorched earth IS part of the legacy you right wingers are leaving our children from ignoring global warming.
I've never recommended ignoring global warming, I just oppose climate change mitigation. If you want to adapt to climate, I think that's a wonderful idea; go for it. I'm for climate freedom, get government out of climate.

I'm not leaving scorched Earth by advocating using fossil fuels, all fuels, encouraging the distribution and use of energy and fuel should help our economy. At least our kids can have jobs!

I oppose restricting CO2 emissions; that's idiocy and greed. Higher taxes and more government control; I won't buy it!

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Other than droughts and failed agriculture harvests?
There have never been droughts and crop failures before the age of the automobile? That's not the history I've read.

You should learn more; people have always tried to scare others with news about droughts and crop failures; they used to burn witches to mitigate climate change. Get government out of climate change mitigation!

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Flooded coastlines from the melted ice caps
Ever visit Amsterdam or Venice? Flooded coastlines are picturesque; that's why people like to live near them. We shouldn't subsidize their bad decisions by subsidizing insurance or disaster aid beyond immediate relief and relocation.

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and oceans in crisis from reduced fish harvests
That happens everywhere we overuse resources, the market might adjust to aquaculture and other sources of food. Government isn't the solution; they are the problem.

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and coral reefs. See the added CO2 is also making the oceans warmer and more acidic.
Coral reefs need CO2 to live, just like we need plants to use CO2. Don't be selfish; CO2 adds to the biosphere, in increases the range of life.

When the oceans warm, they release CO2 the same way a cold can of soda will release more CO2 as it warms. Don't confuse cause and effect.

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It will take more than your money to fix the mess you are leaving them.
No amount of cash can fix the climate. If you don't like your climate, move. Governments can't fix climate, but you can deal with it.
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I've never recommended ignoring global warming.....
"brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver" allegedly threatened AGW advocates so they would no longer post on toxic topix AGW forum threads.
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A leaked report by a United Nations' group dedicated to climate studies says that heat from the sun may play a larger role than previously thought."[Results] do suggest the possibility of a much larger impact of solar variations on the stratosphere than previously thought, and some studies have suggested that this may lead to significant regional impacts on climate," reads a draft copy of a major, upcoming report from the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
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Told Ya wrote:
A leaked report by a United Nations' group dedicated to climate studies says that heat from the sun may play a larger role than previously thought."[Results] do suggest the possibility of a much larger impact of solar variations on the stratosphere than previously thought, and some studies have suggested that this may lead to significant regional impacts on climate," reads a draft copy of a major, upcoming report from the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
You just told a lie.

Deniers lie and cheat.
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You own post weakens the credibility.
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Haha it happened again, AmS, cross posted.

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Told Ya wrote:
A leaked report by a United Nations' group dedicated to climate studies says that heat from the sun may play a larger role than previously thought."[Results] do suggest the possibility of a much larger impact of solar variations on the stratosphere than previously thought, and some studies have suggested that this may lead to significant regional impacts on climate," reads a draft copy of a major, upcoming report from the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
it said regional impact only. Did you notice that.

And solar variations have been relatively stable over the last 30 years, declining a little recently.

Yet temperatures have been climbing. So they still wouldn't be saying CO2 isn't the primary culprit.

Isn't that clear to you?
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You own post weakens the credibility.
Whatever you said was not to me. Right?
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it said regional impact only. Did you notice that.
And solar variations have been relatively stable over the last 30 years, declining a little recently.
Yet temperatures have been climbing. So they still wouldn't be saying CO2 isn't the primary culprit.
Isn't that clear to you?
This is a much better response than mine.

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<quoted text>I've never recommended ignoring global warming, I just oppose climate change mitigation. If you want to adapt to climate, I think that's a wonderful idea; go for it. I'm for climate freedom, get government out of climate.
Are you aware govt research & development was used for the transcontinental train building. That the Dept of Defense financed R&D for helicopters and airplanes, NASA financed R&D for satellities and the telecommunications industry, and on and on. NASA also paid for windtunnel testing and air traffic control systems used today by the airlines.

Typically what happens is commercial companies then take over the production after the R&D has been paid for the government. The same parallel is what needs to happen with alternative fuels.
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I'm not leaving scorched Earth by advocating using fossil fuels, all fuels, encouraging the distribution and use of energy and fuel should help our economy. At least our kids can have jobs!
The plan of the Democrats was to retool buildings to use alternataive energy which would create new jobs. Republicans were determined to give Democrats no successes.
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I oppose restricting CO2 emissions; that's idiocy and greed. Higher taxes and more government control; I won't buy it!
Are you aware the problem of mercury in ocean fish has been traced to coal plant emissions? More CO2 will lead to more droughts and when the ice cap melts, there will be flooding of the coastal cities? This will be extremely expensive -- far more than controlling CO2 emissions. Food prices will go up and insurance prices will go up, a lot.
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<quoted text>There have never been droughts and crop failures before the age of the automobile? That's not the history I've read.
No the number of hot days have increased, and the number of cold days have decreased. NASA has a graph that shows there have been something like double the warmer days, and half the normal cooler days. Droughts are the worst on record for most of the world, and expected to increase.

See, warmer temperatures evaporate the moisture in the ground. This has to be replaced with either rain or irrigation. We have a water problem out West too you know.
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You should learn more; people have always tried to scare others with news about droughts and crop failures; they used to burn witches to mitigate climate change. Get government out of climate change mitigation!
I agree with you some on mainstream news -- they need to attract audiences. I read science sources. The latter does not talk about polar bears or hurricanes very much for example.
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<quoted text>Ever visit Amsterdam or Venice? Flooded coastlines are picturesque; that's why people like to live near them. We shouldn't subsidize their bad decisions by subsidizing insurance or disaster aid beyond immediate relief and relocation.

Venice had a bad flood not to long ago. See the houses are still built on foundations. They don't float. Holland pays for very expensive dikes to keep the water out. Would cost us a fortune for both -- far more than prevention of CO2 emissions.

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<quoted text>That happens everywhere we overuse resources, the market might adjust to aquaculture and other sources of food. Government isn't the solution; they are the problem.
No, because agricultural scientists are testing for drought resistant crops, and they say so far they have found some success, but eventually they still need to have some water.... ie there is still a big problem
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