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Tar Sands: Poisoning Earth and Canada's Good Name

There are 145 comments on the Common Dreams story from Feb 15, 2013, titled Tar Sands: Poisoning Earth and Canada's Good Name. In it, Common Dreams reports that:

On Sunday tens of thousands are set to converge on the White House in what organizers are promoting as "the largest climate rally in U.S. history." The protesters will be calling on Barack Obama to reject the Keystone XL pipeline.

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Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#44 Mar 8, 2013
acceptable wrote:
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Even if oil companies didn't rule the world, the food, pharmaceuticals, info tech, banking, hydro electrics, natural gas, solar-wind-tidal power organizations will replace them to rule the world in exactly the same way. When air, water, sunshine becomes scarce, companies will rise in these sectors to rule the world and boss you and everyone else around. When the Earth finally dies with everything on it, the millionaires, billionaires, trillionaires will buy very expensive tickets on the few spaceships off the planet to some other world. Everyone else who isn't rich are screwed because they are poor.
I agree. The rich knew that cheap oil was running out, Bush and Cheney knew that Saudi oil production was beginning to peak. The Saudis are building solar panels all over the place now. They use most of the oil that they use to make salt water into fresh water. They do not have any fresh water left. Only the billionaires will survive the end of cheap oil and the end of water, top soil, etc.

Greed kept this mess going. If the people running corporations had been honest they would have limited the human population. All every CEO of a corporation thinks about is him making the most profit, his job security, his huge salary, so they let the Earth get way overpopulated to do constant growth. The whole entire circus show is based on more people, build more homes, more jobs, sell more stuff. Now the oil and water and top soil is almost gone and at the same time the population is over 7 billion. And this is a big reason why China went capitalist and they are burning oil and coal like there is no tomorrow. And this is why we see the extreme weather events now and the droughts now. China really speed up global warming.
WTF

Chicago, IL

#45 Mar 8, 2013
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>If oil will be 5 to 8 times more expensive than it has always been then the global economy cannot ever grow again. If every item is going to cost 5 times more that it used to, most people won't be able to buy things. If no countries can make things cheap and can't sell things cheaply, people can't buy things, that is the end of the capitalist system, that is the end of GDP growth. If globalization ends because of high oil prices, meaning high cost of shipping products to other countries, then countries will make things locally and grow food locally. The high price of oil means the total destruction of the planet and of the human species for the oil and gas companies to get the last bit of oil and gas that is left. Only the billionaires will survive. If you have no GDP growth due to no more cheap oil, the U.S. has NO way to pay back it's debt. It will default on its debt. And when it can't borrow $1 trillion every year to hand out to the people, people will be homeless, dirt poor and rioting. Are you going to pay 5 times more for gas, 5 times more for every item made in China due to high transport and manufacturing costs? No, no one is.
Now you know why the rich took the U.S. down to steal all of the money. They knew cheap oil was running out and that world oil production was going top peak in 2008. Why do you think Bush got the oil in Iraq for Exxon and for BP? Why do you think Bush bought an aquifer in Argentina?? Cause oil and water will run out soon enough.
Funny how you conveniently left out that our dear President, Mr. Obama, accepted millions in contributions from BP for his 2008 run.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#46 Mar 8, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Wow! you're quite the victim, aren't you?
i can see why you think, and let, others control you...
The corporations control the whole world, they own the politicians. Invading Iraq was done for BP and Exxon to get control of 20 percent of the remaining world's oil reserves, which are in Iraq. You have an IQ of a small child. You should not come in here nor go anywhere where adults are posting about real things. You need to move on and post in boards where kids are talking about coloring books and video games. That is the level of IQ you are on. GET OUT OF HERE ALREADY. All you do is follow people around and say cruel and very stupid things to them. Get lost already. Go be with those who are on your mental level. Get out of here. You never say one thing, you don't know anything, you don't help the situation one bit. All you are doing is coming into Topix and saying mean crap to everyone because your IQ is sooooooo low. Rather than abusing strangers online, go somewhere where people have super low IQs like you do and talk with them so that you do not feel threatened and you don't lash out at everyone and so that you can't abuse people.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#47 Mar 8, 2013
WTF wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how you conveniently left out that our dear President, Mr. Obama, accepted millions in contributions from BP for his 2008 run.
I did not vote for Obama, I am not a liberal, and I am not a tree hugger either. I have been voting Republican for over 35 years, and I am a big fan of Ron Paul. But, Bush did take the U.S. down in 2008 and he invaded Iraq to get that oil for the major oil companies otherwise they had no more reserves and they would have gone out of business. Obama would never invade Iraq or Iran for the oil for American and British oil companies. And, if 75,000 acres of old growth forests are being killed off in order to process sand tar oil, it is what it is. NO one told me to be an environmentalist. I am a moderate Republican who can see taking down old growth forests in mass for crapy expensive low grade sand tar oil means cheap oil has run out and it cannot possibly be a good thing to be doing that. People have to think about things for themselves. You can be a fiscal conservative, be a moderate Republican and also see CA has been in drought conditions for over a decade now, anyone can see the extreme weather damages, what they are costing to clean up. You people want to pretend only one party is bad and one is all good and that anyone who sees us destroying the earth - slap a label on them - they must be some tree hugging liberal, bla, bla. How about everyone just using some common sense and deciding what makes sense for themselves. Both parties are trash and if not for the fake cable "news" channels, we all would have kicked all of them out of Washington in 2008 when the country collapsed and put Ron Paul and other Libertarians in office and moved on from both corrupt parties a long time ago.

Oil runs out, Bush invades Iraq for the oil in Iraq and we pay for it. Obama gives half the country welfare so big that it pays more than working. On and on the circus show goes. One party is totally corrupt and the other party is totally corrupt and if not for Fox and MSNBC being on the air selling total crapola made up stories, the American people would have woken up in 2008 and got rid of both parties. The media is owned by the corporations and they are trying to stop all of us from rioting and they are trying to stop the people from getting rid of the politicians they own.

“Seriously guys...”

Since: May 12

Regina

#48 Mar 8, 2013
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text> Obama gives half the country welfare so big that it pays more than working.
And boom, there goes your credibility.
Half the country eh? Yeah, I guess all those pensioners that worked and paid taxes all their lives are now just a bunch of mooches and leeches. I guess all those veterans are a bunch of lazy mooches too eh? And let's not forget about the disabled. I mean hell, if they are unable to work then they should just be killed so they aren't a burden on you.
One of the dumbest things to come out of Romney's mouth was that 47% figure.
It's bad enough when the rest of the world is too stupid to figure that out, it's even worse when Americans are too stupid to figure that out.

But back to the topic, do please enlighten us with your proposal to provide energy, fuel and consumer goods in an oil-free world.
WTF

Chicago, IL

#49 Mar 8, 2013
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>I did not vote for Obama, I am not a liberal, and I am not a tree hugger either. I have been voting Republican for over 35 years, and I am a big fan of Ron Paul. But, Bush did take the U.S. down in 2008 and he invaded Iraq to get that oil for the major oil companies otherwise they had no more reserves and they would have gone out of business. Obama would never invade Iraq or Iran for the oil for American and British oil companies. And, if 75,000 acres of old growth forests are being killed off in order to process sand tar oil, it is what it is. NO one told me to be an environmentalist. I am a moderate Republican who can see taking down old growth forests in mass for crapy expensive low grade sand tar oil means cheap oil has run out and it cannot possibly be a good thing to be doing that. People have to think about things for themselves. You can be a fiscal conservative, be a moderate Republican and also see CA has been in drought conditions for over a decade now, anyone can see the extreme weather damages, what they are costing to clean up. You people want to pretend only one party is bad and one is all good and that anyone who sees us destroying the earth - slap a label on them - they must be some tree hugging liberal, bla, bla. How about everyone just using some common sense and deciding what makes sense for themselves. Both parties are trash and if not for the fake cable "news" channels, we all would have kicked all of them out of Washington in 2008 when the country collapsed and put Ron Paul and other Libertarians in office and moved on from both corrupt parties a long time ago.
Oil runs out, Bush invades Iraq for the oil in Iraq and we pay for it. Obama gives half the country welfare so big that it pays more than working. On and on the circus show goes. One party is totally corrupt and the other party is totally corrupt and if not for Fox and MSNBC being on the air selling total crapola made up stories, the American people would have woken up in 2008 and got rid of both parties. The media is owned by the corporations and they are trying to stop all of us from rioting and they are trying to stop the people from getting rid of the politicians they own.
Is that why China won the contracts to manage the oil fields in Iraq?
Is that why Obama, and the EU, invaded Libya to help to free the Libyan people or so BP could get a better contract for the oil fields.
The same Obama who is now getting us into Africa, with France, and going after the uranium deposits.
The same Obama who still has troops deployed in Afghanistan, which has one of the world's largest deposits of minerals used to manufacture lithium batteries.
I would agree that both parties are in it for one thing- money, but don't lay the blame squarely at Bush's feet.
Look at the vote the Senate and Congress took on the invasion of Iraq. 90% of both voted yes, authorizing use of force.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#50 Mar 8, 2013
Whisgean Zoda wrote:
<quoted text>
And boom, there goes your credibility.
Half the country eh? Yeah, I guess all those pensioners that worked and paid taxes all their lives are now just a bunch of mooches and leeches. I guess all those veterans are a bunch of lazy mooches too eh? And let's not forget about the disabled. I mean hell, if they are unable to work then they should just be killed so they aren't a burden on you.
One of the dumbest things to come out of Romney's mouth was that 47% figure.
It's bad enough when the rest of the world is too stupid to figure that out, it's even worse when Americans are too stupid to figure that out.
But back to the topic, do please enlighten us with your proposal to provide energy, fuel and consumer goods in an oil-free world.
Yes those pensioners ARE a bunch of moochers, yes they are. Everyone of them getting anywhere from $5,000-$20,000 a month in tax money from local, state or federal pensions, they did not pay for them. That money ALL comes from tax money, same as their salaries did, and yes, look at what Alan Simpson had to say about the cost of VA health care - TriCare. He said you can serve as little as one year during peace time and get VA health care for free and it costs over $50 billion per year in tax money. He said you have to set up copayments. Everyone has to take some cuts.

Yes, everyone on Social Security and Medicare is a total moocher. Those two programs have over $122 TRILION of debt, of promises made beyond what people paid in. Old people get 4 times more government money than your people do, and the real fight is old people getting huge union/local/state/federal/VA pensions AND SS and Medicare and some men get double SS payments - as much as $2,700 a month when they may also be getting a VA pension and a gov. pension or union pension worth 10K a month too, and those leeches want big huge old aged medical care from the government too. They want to be able to get about $10-15K a month in tax money in various social programs and gov. pensions and rake in big free health care too so they can buy a second home, travel half the year, buy crap at the mall nonstop without them ever having saved one cent of their own money. How much tax money is enough for every person to get? If it is going to cost us $122 trillion to hand out Social Security and Medicare to the baby boomers, most of whom have huge pensions and most of them inherited money as well, how much do they need? Is 20K a month enough for them while they cancel out SS and Medicare and unions and gov. pensions on young people and want to end the minimum wage on young people? How much tax money do they need for them, them them to piss away every month, and how much are they really entitled too if they have NO higher educations and they did not invest nor save one cent while they worked? You want to borrow $122 trillion to hand out to people who don't need it so they can live fat for no reason while they no longer pay income taxes and contribute nothing while young people have nothing and have to have 3 times the education those old folks have in order to be able to make a living. So how much are they worth if they didn't save any of their own money? Let them take out reverse mortgages, pay half of their Medicare themselves and screw them, do not give anyone who has other pensions SS money, and stop paying women who never worked. Kick them off of SS and Medicare. Means test and make those people take responsibility for their own retirements.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#51 Mar 8, 2013
Whisgean Zoda wrote:
<quoted text>
And boom, there goes your credibility.
Half the country eh? Yeah, I guess all those pensioners that worked and paid taxes all their lives are now just a bunch of mooches and leeches. I guess all those veterans are a bunch of lazy mooches too eh? And let's not forget about the disabled. I mean hell, if they are unable to work then they should just be killed so they aren't a burden on you.
One of the dumbest things to come out of Romney's mouth was that 47% figure.
It's bad enough when the rest of the world is too stupid to figure that out, it's even worse when Americans are too stupid to figure that out.
But back to the topic, do please enlighten us with your proposal to provide energy, fuel and consumer goods in an oil-free world.
It's not going to be an oil-free world. It will be $150 a barrel oil from here on out, so it will be the end of globalization, back to localization, job sharing, the end of growth and only the super rich will have cars and be able to afford to buy the food they want and be able to go on planes. Why don't you look into what Jeff Rubin is saying about his for years now? He is the world's most sought after expert on oil, he is a Canadian economist. Do a search in Youtube for Jeff Rubin and listen to one of his lectures if you want to find out how the world will be with the end of cheap oil. He's super smart and has written books about it.

Even Van Jones, who is a flaming liberal, did a special on The History Channel where they showed how the people will start to starve and die and he said things like Social Secuirty and Medicare will be things of the past. You can't have no more top soil, droughts, run out of water, have so much air, water and soil pollution from fracking for oil and gas and have these $90 billion dollar a piece weather diasters and then think there would be one cent left to pay out things like SS and Medicare.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#52 Mar 8, 2013
WTF wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that why China won the contracts to manage the oil fields in Iraq?
Is that why Obama, and the EU, invaded Libya to help to free the Libyan people or so BP could get a better contract for the oil fields.
The same Obama who is now getting us into Africa, with France, and going after the uranium deposits.
The same Obama who still has troops deployed in Afghanistan, which has one of the world's largest deposits of minerals used to manufacture lithium batteries.
I would agree that both parties are in it for one thing- money, but don't lay the blame squarely at Bush's feet.
Look at the vote the Senate and Congress took on the invasion of Iraq. 90% of both voted yes, authorizing use of force.
China didn't get any contracts to manage the oil fields in Iraq when we invaded Iraq. Dick Cheney's company, Haliburton, marched right onto those oil fields from day one and Exxon and BP marched right in too. Only in the last year the Iraqi people got rid of Exxon and BP. They have had enough of the U.S. invading them.

Obama didn't invade Libya. He made NATO go and do most of the work. It was a short, tiny operation he turned over to NATO. The liberals do NOT spend on oil companies and on war profiteers, on defense contractors. They spend on welfare, gov. pensions, SS, Medicare, all the handout stuff. The REpubs are owned by the defense contractors and the oil companies. They both spend and spend and spend - the Repubs on oil wars and war profiteering and the Dems on welfare - Medicaid, section 8 housing, SSI, GA cash, food stamps, prisons for the folks who come from welfare families, on and on it all goes. Ron Paul was right when he said "end the welfare/warfare state." He said both parties spend and spend, one party on welfare, the other party on warfare. Then, the phony news channels control the voters by lying to them and making it sound as if one party is good and one is bad. Both doubled the debt, doubled spending. This ALL happened over the last 12 years, under Rs and Ds. So look for why. What giant event would make an empire go under? Why would the rich take down their own country via greed? It's cause cheap oil ran out. That's why you have all of these billionaires now. The rich knew long before we did that cheap oil was running out so they decided to become billionaires off of war profits, off of outsourcing to China, off of oil wars, off of sand tar, fracking for shale oil and natural gas, and then we all die from it and the few billionaires will survive somehow.

When Fox TV paints a picture of how just the Dems are all bad. Yeah right, try to get Hannity to cut one cent from his war profiteering, from defense. They are both the same. It's all crapola.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#53 Mar 8, 2013
Another example of the fake and twisted media is how Hannity is using Rand Paul to make his points against Obama. But, Hannity is the one who ruined it for Ron Paul. He is a war profiteer so he turned on Ron Paul because RP did not want a third war, a war with Iran. Fox controls who wins, controls what people think, and today Rand Paul's actions make a story that Hannity can use to bash Obama, tomorrow if Rand Paul runs for president and doesn't want more expensive wars, Hannity will slit his throat and scare everyone to death and say we must have a third war right now and be so terrified that Rand Paul won't do it. What is so sick and disgusting is these uneducated nothing folks with shows on the cable news channels control who we run for office and who gets elected and they are all making $20-50 million per year themselves. They rig who wins for their tax rates and their war profits, etc.
WTF

United States

#54 Mar 8, 2013
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>China didn't get any contracts to manage the oil fields in Iraq when we invaded Iraq. Dick Cheney's company, Haliburton, marched right onto those oil fields from day one and Exxon and BP marched right in too. Only in the last year the Iraqi people got rid of Exxon and BP. They have had enough of the U.S. invading them.
Obama didn't invade Libya. He made NATO go and do most of the work. It was a short, tiny operation he turned over to NATO. The liberals do NOT spend on oil companies and on war profiteers, on defense contractors. They spend on welfare, gov. pensions, SS, Medicare, all the handout stuff. The REpubs are owned by the defense contractors and the oil companies. They both spend and spend and spend - the Repubs on oil wars and war profiteering and the Dems on welfare - Medicaid, section 8 housing, SSI, GA cash, food stamps, prisons for the folks who come from welfare families, on and on it all goes. Ron Paul was right when he said "end the welfare/warfare state." He said both parties spend and spend, one party on welfare, the other party on warfare. Then, the phony news channels control the voters by lying to them and making it sound as if one party is good and one is bad. Both doubled the debt, doubled spending. This ALL happened over the last 12 years, under Rs and Ds. So look for why. What giant event would make an empire go under? Why would the rich take down their own country via greed? It's cause cheap oil ran out. That's why you have all of these billionaires now. The rich knew long before we did that cheap oil was running out so they decided to become billionaires off of war profits, off of outsourcing to China, off of oil wars, off of sand tar, fracking for shale oil and natural gas, and then we all die from it and the few billionaires will survive somehow.
When Fox TV paints a picture of how just the Dems are all bad. Yeah right, try to get Hannity to cut one cent from his war profiteering, from defense. They are both the same. It's all crapola.
Huh? That's weird NBC, not your most conservative news outlet, reported that Russia and China had won the contracts to manage the Iraqi oil fields. Weird. You say they didn't, but a major news organization is saying they did. Why would NBC lie about that?

Obama didn't invade Libya? That's weird, because I wonder how a US F-15 ended up in the desert of Libya and the new EW aircraft EA-18G was providing jamming to NATO. Hmmm? And then a Pentagon spokesperson confirmed US troops were present, along with CIA operatives, in Sept 2011, in Libya. And that was reported by the Business Insider.

I smell a conspiracy or maybe you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Oh, by the way, Democrats also enjoy big oil money. Just ask Obama about a little bit of money BP gave him in 2008.

“Seriously guys...”

Since: May 12

Regina

#55 Mar 8, 2013
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>Yes those pensioners ARE a bunch of moochers, yes they are. Everyone of them getting anywhere from $5,000-$20,000 a month in tax money from local, state or federal pensions, they did not pay for them. That money ALL comes from tax money, same as their salaries did,
Same as their salaries?? So you're telling me that EVERY Old Age Pensioner is merely a retired public servant? Are you stupid or something?
Pamela wrote:
and yes, look at what Alan Simpson had to say about the cost of VA health care - TriCare. He said you can serve as little as one year during peace time and get VA health care for free and it costs over $50 billion per year in tax money. He said you have to set up copayments. Everyone has to take some cuts.
Nice strawman, you'll notice I said VETERANS. Somoene that served only one year in peacetime is not or should not be considered a veteran.
Pamela wrote:
Yes, everyone on Social Security and Medicare is a total moocher.
Man, I can't WAIT til you reach retirment age. I bet you'll be the first one screaming for your pension.
Pamela wrote:
Those two programs have over $122 TRILION of debt, of promises made beyond what people paid in. Old people get 4 times more government money than your people do, and the real fight is old people getting huge union/local/state/federal/VA pensions AND SS and Medicare and some men get double SS payments - as much as $2,700 a month when they may also be getting a VA pension and a gov. pension or union pension worth 10K a month too, and those leeches want big huge old aged medical care from the government too. They want to be able to get about $10-15K a month in tax money in various social programs and gov. pensions and rake in big free health care too so they can buy a second home, travel half the year, buy crap at the mall nonstop without them ever having saved one cent of their own money. How much tax money is enough for every person to get? If it is going to cost us $122 trillion to hand out Social Security and Medicare to the baby boomers, most of whom have huge pensions and most of them inherited money as well, how much do they need? Is 20K a month enough for them while they cancel out SS and Medicare and unions and gov. pensions on young people and want to end the minimum wage on young people? How much tax money do they need for them, them them to piss away every month, and how much are they really entitled too if they have NO higher educations and they did not invest nor save one cent while they worked? You want to borrow $122 trillion to hand out to people who don't need it so they can live fat for no reason while they no longer pay income taxes and contribute nothing while young people have nothing and have to have 3 times the education those old folks have in order to be able to make a living. So how much are they worth if they didn't save any of their own money? Let them take out reverse mortgages, pay half of their Medicare themselves and screw them, do not give anyone who has other pensions SS money, and stop paying women who never worked. Kick them off of SS and Medicare. Means test and make those people take responsibility for their own retirements.
Wow nice rant. Tell ya what then. Let's just kill off all the old people, all the veterans and all the disabled and then you can have all the money you want.
It's funny how you mention "cancelling" pensions on young people. So old people that worked all their lives are entitled to nothing when they retire, but young people that sit on their fat, useless asses deserve money for NOTHING?
You little lady, are absolutely nuts!!
Let them take reverse mortgages out LMFAOOO yeah lady, cuz rental units have no problem with tenants taking out reverse mortgages on their properties. Or do you assininely believe that every retired person in America lives in $500,000 home?

“Seriously guys...”

Since: May 12

Regina

#56 Mar 8, 2013
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>It's not going to be an oil-free world. It will be $150 a barrel oil from here on out, so it will be the end of globalization, back to localization, job sharing, the end of growth and only the super rich will have cars and be able to afford to buy the food they want and be able to go on planes. Why don't you look into what Jeff Rubin is saying about his for years now? He is the world's most sought after expert on oil, he is a Canadian economist. Do a search in Youtube for Jeff Rubin and listen to one of his lectures if you want to find out how the world will be with the end of cheap oil. He's super smart and has written books about it.
Even Van Jones, who is a flaming liberal, did a special on The History Channel where they showed how the people will start to starve and die and he said things like Social Secuirty and Medicare will be things of the past. You can't have no more top soil, droughts, run out of water, have so much air, water and soil pollution from fracking for oil and gas and have these $90 billion dollar a piece weather diasters and then think there would be one cent left to pay out things like SS and Medicare.
So you have no solution or ideas, you just want to bitch about oil.
Well that's great and all but unless you have some solutions to the problem, bitching about oil isn't going to net you any new "converts".
Once again, EVEN if/when things get to the point where globalization is gone and we're back to domestic production for purely domestic consumption, it still can't be done without oil. Without oil to make the plastics for your computer, how would you be able to come on here and cry about oil??
I guess you never bothered to read the list of everyday products made from oil. I don't blame you either because it doesn't fit in with your little fantasy world.
You see, products were being made with the by-products of oil LONG LONG before the days of globalization. Why would you expect that to change in a post-globalization world? It doesn't matter whether your computer is made in the USA or China, it still takes oil to make the plastics. It doesn't matter whther you're in the US or China, it still takes oil to make surgical gloves and gowns. It doesn't matter whether you're in China or the US, it still takes oil to lubricate the machines of industry.

A word of advice. Since you're so against the whole idea of pensions for those that earned them, you better start buying up stock in oil companies. I mean if oil is going as high as predicted, you'd be a fool not to get in on the gravy train. Why risk becoming a potential pension mooch?
paul SHYKORA arts

Calgary, Canada

#57 Mar 8, 2013
..PAMELA....You's are soooooooooooooooooooooooo ..dumb,here...and,you's GREENPEACE and NDP is '''NOT''' Me ...GOD,..eh...
paul SHYKORA arts

Calgary, Canada

#58 Mar 8, 2013
...romantic Alberta,supernatural British Columbia,golden Saskatchewan and frotier Yukon...go,..go Oil and Gas...forth..eh...
Cana

Burnaby, Canada

#59 Mar 8, 2013
Pamela wrote:
Another example of the fake and twisted media is how Hannity is using Rand Paul to make his points against Obama. But, Hannity is the one who ruined it for Ron Paul. He is a war profiteer so he turned on Ron Paul because RP did not want a third war, a war with Iran. Fox controls who wins, controls what people think, and today Rand Paul's actions make a story that Hannity can use to bash Obama, tomorrow if Rand Paul runs for president and doesn't want more expensive wars, Hannity will slit his throat and scare everyone to death and say we must have a third war right now and be so terrified that Rand Paul won't do it. What is so sick and disgusting is these uneducated nothing folks with shows on the cable news channels control who we run for office and who gets elected and they are all making $20-50 million per year themselves. They rig who wins for their tax rates and their war profits, etc.
That was some run...what is your take on 911.
Cana

Burnaby, Canada

#60 Mar 8, 2013
Whisgean Zoda wrote:
<quoted text>Man, I can't WAIT til you reach retirment age. I bet you'll be the first one screaming for your pension.
LOL...That would suck for you detroit dependents...lol.
To bad you didn't (with that fat union wage)from detroit; invest in China, or the Canadian companies that were 25 years ago...hahaha!
Cana

Burnaby, Canada

#61 Mar 8, 2013
paul SHYKORA arts wrote:
...romantic Alberta,supernatural British Columbia,golden Saskatchewan and frotier Yukon...go,..go Oil and Gas...forth..eh...
When the spillage starts...we will expect you to be there with a straw...sucking hard! Just like any guy from the westend worth his salt.
Cana

Burnaby, Canada

#62 Mar 8, 2013
The immediacy of the tarsands development and to push it through in its raw form, just shows what Pamela was saying in long form, ie Canadian People allowing our gov't to sell off resources at f'n idiot prices.
The question I have for Pamela is the Arctic...USer oil companies have already started test drilling...

“Seriously guys...”

Since: May 12

Regina

#63 Mar 8, 2013
Cana wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL...That would suck for you detroit dependents...lol.
To bad you didn't (with that fat union wage)from detroit; invest in China, or the Canadian companies that were 25 years ago...hahaha!
Uhhh I'm Canadian you dumbshit, no matter how many times you try and convince yourself otherwise. At least I can say I was BORN here, unlike your mooching, immigrant ass.
But do pray tell, what Canadian companies were present in Detroit 25 years ago that would have been so investment worthy?
Because Detroit has been a shithole for much longer than 25 years, not that you'd know anything about the city.

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