Democrats Bank on Minimum-Wage Fight to Drive Voter Turnout

Apr 3, 2014 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Wall Street Journal

Democrats aren't exactly rushing to share the stage with President Barack Obama these days, especially those in tight races.

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Since: Feb 11

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#69 Apr 4, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
You don't spend much time in our cities do you? The people on the west and south west side of Chicago .
I guess you don't spend much time on facts.

You spend it making up lies- as above- and then think you can move on to the next.

Southern states- highest percentage of welfare collection. Particularly the Republican states.

Since: Feb 11

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#70 Apr 4, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
The southern States do just fine taking care of their own.
I know you think you can move on when you turn the page.

Lying C*t74.
see the light

El Paso, TX

#71 Apr 4, 2014
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Good! My future insults should have you laughing out loud.
Thanks for all the laugh's Wolfie.
Who

Wyoming, MI

#72 Apr 4, 2014
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>There goes the neighborhood!
Why?

Somebody let the brown parasites in?
Jorja Fox

Eagle Rock, VA

#73 Apr 5, 2014
foster

Ashburn, VA

#74 Apr 5, 2014
Righteous wrote:
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you mean like the libitard "agenda"?????? keep all you stupid F's so gubment dependent that you could not even get a J O B pan handling??????
Do not like the tax laws???? then change them.......... but the libitards will not even talk about it.... YOU should learn YOUR parties "agenda" .........
One more time for the determined ignorant. Consevarative Red States dominate those sucking up federal aid. Republicans are the historical leeches backed by data.
foster

Ashburn, VA

#75 Apr 5, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
The southern States do just fine taking care of their own, As far as a 20Million sign up for ObamaScam goes there will never be 20 million people signing up for a chance to pay more for insurance, and higher deductible.
There has never been a time SOUTHERNS, nor States west of Indiana have not depended on federal aid to survive. You're hurt to find out you part of the parasite culture.
foster

Ashburn, VA

#79 Apr 5, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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In actual fact, southern states are more dependent on welfare than other states.
You lie when you blink, Au LyingC*t74
http://ivn.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Dono...
Great link, I recommend this to those of you who exclusively read books with lots of pictures
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#80 Apr 5, 2014
Southern states are an ascending region while the northeast states are descending though. Get away from the urban hubs which are half decayed even with center city money cores and the suburbs you start seeing reality of those vaunted areas even with picturesque towns mixed in.
foster

Ashburn, VA

#81 Apr 5, 2014
Jorja Fox wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/ money/business/2014/01/26/stat es-with-the-most-government-be nefits/4899375/
http://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/01/2...
Very interesting read.
Another exception resource. Great baseline information that backs the reality that Red States are leeches by their own chosing.

If you're Republican, Get outta my pocket!!

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#83 Apr 5, 2014
serfs up wrote:
Southern states are an ascending region
man, you have cr@p coming out of all your orifices, Smurfette.
see the light

El Paso, TX

#84 Apr 5, 2014
foster wrote:
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One more time for the determined ignorant. Consevarative Red States dominate those sucking up federal aid. Republicans are the historical leeches backed by data.
Hey, Einstein, its not the state sucking up faderal aid, its you Democratic people. Republicans dont want Welfare. Your the ones who keep giving it to your voters to keep them down.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#85 Apr 5, 2014
foster wrote:
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Another exception resource. Great baseline information that backs the reality that Red States are leeches by their own chosing.
If you're Republican, Get outta my pocket!!
Are Welfare Recipients mostly Republican?
Paul Krugman is in puzzlement, having observed that Red States get more welfare funding, while Republican voters oppose the welfare state. He portrays Republicans as “Moochers” who are either hypocritical or too stupid to know their own best interest.

But as we know, states do not vote, individuals do. There is only a paradox if Republican voters receive welfare at above average rates while voting against it. From the Gellman-paradox we know that the low-income voters who drag down the Red States average tend to vote disproportionally for Democrats. Republican voters earn significantly more than Democrats, even though Red state earn less than Blue states.

Krugman reports no individual level data, so let me. The Maxwell Poll has detailed information about welfare use. The data is from 2004-2007. During this period in these polls a plurality of voters supported Democrats. I will graph the two-party vote, more data is at the end.

Hardly surprising, we see that in a two-party split, 60-80% of welfare recipients are Democrats, while full time Workers are evenly divided between parties.

You have similar results in this recent NPR-Poll. Among the Long Term Unemployed, 72% of the two-party support goes to Democrats.

It appears that once more common sense is right and the impression left by the New York Times wrong. Indeed, people who live off the government disproportionally support Democrats.

http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2012/02/do-...
foster

Ashburn, VA

#86 Apr 5, 2014
serfs up wrote:
Southern states are an ascending region while the northeast states are descending though. Get away from the urban hubs which are half decayed even with center city money cores and the suburbs you start seeing reality of those vaunted areas even with picturesque towns mixed in.
Southern States have been ascending since 1620
foster

Ashburn, VA

#87 Apr 5, 2014
see the light wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, Einstein, its not the state sucking up faderal aid, its you Democratic people. Republicans dont want Welfare. Your the ones who keep giving it to your voters to keep them down.
There's not a Republican Rep in the South in a district that has a net contribution to the Treasury.
You're all cultural leeches and have always been
foster

Ashburn, VA

#88 Apr 5, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Are Welfare Recipients mostly Republican?
Paul Krugman is in puzzlement, having observed that Red States get more welfare funding, while Republican voters oppose the welfare state. He portrays Republicans as “Moochers” who are either hypocritical or too stupid to know their own best interest.
But as we know, states do not vote, individuals do. There is only a paradox if Republican voters receive welfare at above average rates while voting against it. From the Gellman-paradox we know that the low-income voters who drag down the Red States average tend to vote disproportionally for Democrats. Republican voters earn significantly more than Democrats, even though Red state earn less than Blue states.
Krugman reports no individual level data, so let me. The Maxwell Poll has detailed information about welfare use. The data is from 2004-2007. During this period in these polls a plurality of voters supported Democrats. I will graph the two-party vote, more data is at the end.
Hardly surprising, we see that in a two-party split, 60-80% of welfare recipients are Democrats, while full time Workers are evenly divided between parties.
You have similar results in this recent NPR-Poll. Among the Long Term Unemployed, 72% of the two-party support goes to Democrats.
It appears that once more common sense is right and the impression left by the New York Times wrong. Indeed, people who live off the government disproportionally support Democrats.
http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2012/02/do-...
Right, so Republicans living in dead end economic communities earning the lowest wages in America pay the Taxes. Piss poor people with low wage jobs dont pay taxes. There are 2 red states with incomes in excess of $19K a year.
foster

Ashburn, VA

#89 Apr 5, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Are Welfare Recipients mostly Republican?
Paul Krugman is in puzzlement, having observed that Red States get more welfare funding, while Republican voters oppose the welfare state. He portrays Republicans as “Moochers” who are either hypocritical or too stupid to know their own best interest.
But as we know, states do not vote, individuals do. There is only a paradox if Republican voters receive welfare at above average rates while voting against it. From the Gellman-paradox we know that the low-income voters who drag down the Red States average tend to vote disproportionally for Democrats. Republican voters earn significantly more than Democrats, even though Red state earn less than Blue states.
Krugman reports no individual level data, so let me. The Maxwell Poll has detailed information about welfare use. The data is from 2004-2007. During this period in these polls a plurality of voters supported Democrats. I will graph the two-party vote, more data is at the end.
Hardly surprising, we see that in a two-party split, 60-80% of welfare recipients are Democrats, while full time Workers are evenly divided between parties.
You have similar results in this recent NPR-Poll. Among the Long Term Unemployed, 72% of the two-party support goes to Democrats.
It appears that once more common sense is right and the impression left by the New York Times wrong. Indeed, people who live off the government disproportionally support Democrats.
http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2012/02/do-...
low wage no working parasite pay no taxes. You'd have to be insane to think GOP lay arounds in the poorest parts of the nation pay the freight
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#90 Apr 5, 2014
foster wrote:
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Right, so Republicans living in dead end economic communities earning the lowest wages in America pay the Taxes. Piss poor people with low wage jobs dont pay taxes. There are 2 red states with incomes in excess of $19K a year.
Might I suggest that you download a map of Red/ Blue areas of our country? Take note that most of our country is red. It's those tiny blue cities and states that keep Democrats in power because of the concentration of people.

Look at the article I posted, particularly the part where it says "States don't vote--individuals vote."

The fact of the matter us just because a Red state has higher welfare recipients and higher federal assistance does not mean that it's mostly Republicans needing that assistance. That is unless you can prove that a Red state is all Republicans. And if you can do that, then you can also prove that a Blue state is all Democrat.

Generalizations don't work in a real debate. Real figures do. If Republicans makeup 51% of the state, then it's a Red state. What about those other 49% of people that are not Republican?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#91 Apr 5, 2014
foster wrote:
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low wage no working parasite pay no taxes. You'd have to be insane to think GOP lay arounds in the poorest parts of the nation pay the freight
I have some bad news for ya: nearly half of the citizens in this country pay no federal income tax at all. The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% of all federal income taxes collected. The rest of us 90% pay the other 30% of taxes collected in our country. And of course, that is if you make enough money to pay federal income tax at all.
Cat74

Algonquin, IL

#93 Apr 6, 2014
Democrats know exactly what they have done. They purposely created dependency in the cities to stay in power. It wasn't to help the people. If it had been we wouldn't have generational poverty. They are going on the 5th generation of welfare dependent people. They say Republicans live in white areas. Really? Have you been to any black areas lately? Want to live there. Want to dodge bullets every weekend? Crime in Chicago is the lowest it has been since the fifties. Know why? Concealed Carry. They won't branch out to other neighborhoods, because the bad guys no longer know who is armed. Even so, last night there were 2 people killed, and 5 people wounded. I know I want to move to that area, don't you. I know I want to take my business there, and create jobs too. So now according to Democrat think it is better to live in a black neighborhood, and dodge bullets then live in white area. Where do they get these ideas. No wonder they want everyone on pot.

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