Congress votes to force Postal Servic...

Congress votes to force Postal Service to keep Saturday delivery

There are 155 comments on the reuters.com story from Mar 21, 2013, titled Congress votes to force Postal Service to keep Saturday delivery. In it, reuters.com reports that:

The financially beleaguered Postal Service suffered a setback in its plan to end Saturday delivery of first-class mail as Congress on Thursday passed legislation requiring six-day delivery.

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Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#23 Mar 21, 2013
Stupid..... it's the same proposal passed every year since Obama's been President, the very same proposal Romney and Ryan presented in their failed Presidential Campaign.

The Republicans only have one Idea, repackaged over and over since 1972, aren't you remotely familiar with your party's position on the issues, yet? ROFLMAO

There single quest since 1964 has been to dismantle Medicare, Medicaid and reduce taxes to zero for Plutocrats and rape America for her natural resources for America's industrialist.

When it's all said and done, the Republicans at the base of the party are puppets for the oligarch.
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>House passes GOP budget plan promising deep cuts
House Republicans have passed a budget plan that would bring the federal government's finances into balance in 10 years by sharply cutting safety-net programs for the poor and by clamping down...
Now will Harry Reid and Obama do their job..........tick tock tick tock
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#24 Mar 21, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>House passes GOP budget plan promising deep cuts
House Republicans have passed a budget plan that would bring the federal government's finances into balance in 10 years by sharply cutting safety-net programs for the poor and by clamping down...
Now will Harry Reid and Obama do their job..........tick tock tick tock
ROFLMAO....... Reid and Obama's job is to throw that garbage in a drawer and pay it no attention.... as they've done with the previous 4 idiotic proposals submitted by Ryan and the Clan..... ROFLMAO

You discuss politics daily and are clueless about the Position of the Republicans since 1964...... You can't be motivated by Politics in America......

This is the same Republican budget proposal that lead to the Obama Landslide last November...... ROFLMAO
fatbacksx

Portland, OR

#25 Mar 21, 2013
How about a vote to pry congress off it's fat a--? Now there's a totally worthless congregation of thumb in the a-- tards.
senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#26 Mar 21, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
The Post Office is very different in that Congress prohibited the Post Office from competing against other parcel delivery services. The Post office adds nothing to the nation's debt and gets no funding for operations or any thing else from congress.
They are federal workers, but they aren't paid or compensated in any manner out of the revenues collected by the Treasury, thus furloughs and sequester doesn't apply to postal employees.
If you're a natural born America how is it you don't know much about your Government? You're here posting daily on politics, where's your information coming from ? Fox News or one of the propaganda conservative web sites?
For you Republicans to be concerned about jobs in America you sure are giddy about the potential for folks in the middle class to loose jobs.....you're promoting and championing laying off Postal Workers, why?
<quoted text>
I WROTE: The PO is not different from any other place of business. If they do not have the work to keep them busy - lay them off. If they do not have the money to pay them - do like the rest of America has had to do - make them take one day furlough and don't come back with the crap that the world will fall apart.
Most places of business have at least one employee (from many employees) that calls off from work every day of the week.

ANSWER TO YOUR POST
I did NOT SAY THEY WERE GOVERNMENT - the PO wanted all of the benefits that the federal employee got but did not want the lower wages that the federal employees were paid, plus the fact they wanted a union and the Federal Employees had to sign an agreement that they would not stike. Look what happened to the Air Traffic Controllers. Prime example.

It appears you are clueless to the federal government and the employees. You are watching too much of Rachel Madddow and Chris Matthews - MSNBC - the channel that got a news commentator FIRED for lying and deleting portions out of speeches that were played to the public. They got caught.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#27 Mar 21, 2013
Look for stamp prices to go to $1 just to mail a letter.

Thanks Congress, you screwed us all again!
Chicopee

United States

#28 Mar 21, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
The Post Office is very different in that Congress prohibited the Post Office from competing against other parcel delivery services. The Post office adds nothing to the nation's debt and gets no funding for operations or any thing else from congress.
They are federal workers, but they aren't paid or compensated in any manner out of the revenues collected by the Treasury, thus furloughs and sequester doesn't apply to postal employees.
If you're a natural born America how is it you don't know much about your Government? You're here posting daily on politics, where's your information coming from ? Fox News or one of the propaganda conservative web sites?
For you Republicans to be concerned about jobs in America you sure are giddy about the potential for folks in the middle class to loose jobs.....you're promoting and championing laying off Postal Workers, why?
<quoted text>
The USPS workload dropped by 12 billion pieces of mail delivered between 2006 and 2009 alone, and that is projected to drop by 170 billion pieces by the year 2020.
USPS workers enjoy a no layoff policy with their union contract, so in spite of a 9% decrease in demand in 2009 alone, they can't cut their payroll to accomodate the shrinking demand as any other company would be forced to do.
The federal government offered to cut a deal in which any laid off postal workers would recieve a replacement position in another federal job, but the workers and the union rejected that idea, as well. And why not? Many believe that the USPS can't go out of business, so they feel secure in their demands.
The USPS did recieve a $15 billion loan from the Treasury during the 90's and many believe they will recieve anpther "bailout" again soon.
Being a government entity doesn't negate simple accounting. The USPS is running in the red because their workforce is too big for the demand and the decrease in the revenue it is earning, and is in part why they have to pay for their legacy costs up front, rather than sticking the taxpayers with it down the road.
No one wants to see anyone lose their jobs, but millions of middle class Americans have lost jobs since the 2008 crash. Why do you, or anyone for that matter, think that a job with the government entitles one to a lifetime appointment? Is a federal worker more special or entitled than a private sector worker?
MAID IN AMERICA

Lakeland, FL

#29 Mar 21, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
The Republicans intentions are to drive every Federal Agency out of the business of serving the public need.
There can be no better example of the republican crusade since 1972 to collapse the U.S Government than what has happened to the Post Office and the Post Office doesn't get Congressional Appropriations to function.
The Repubies are such a BITTER BUNCH...SORE LOSERS, the WHOLE LOT!!!!...My favorite historical memory will be ALL that SILENCE after the election...and the LOOK on their faces...and the LOOK on Mitt's face!!!!...hahahahaahahahahaha !!!!!!!
MAID IN AMERICA

Lakeland, FL

#30 Mar 21, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Look for stamp prices to go to $1 just to mail a letter.
Thanks Congress, you screwed us all again!
Spoken like a 19th century miser...It costs MONEY to process and deliver mail,you idiot...I think at even today's rates you're getting a bargain...Do you get to operate your computer online, so can show everybody you're a JERK, for free???...Everything costs...PAY UP, Doctor Deadbeat!!!!
Chicopee

United States

#31 Mar 21, 2013
MAID IN AMERICA wrote:
<quoted text>The Repubies are such a BITTER BUNCH...SORE LOSERS, the WHOLE LOT!!!!...My favorite historical memory will be ALL that SILENCE after the election...and the LOOK on their faces...and the LOOK on Mitt's face!!!!...hahahahaahahahahaha !!!!!!!
As a lifelong Democrat, I remember all too well how it felt when Bush won...TWICE!!!!!!!!! Thankfully, the Repubs (I worked with quite a few of them) were gracious winners and didn't gloat like the second grader you appear to be. And don't look now, but our turn at long faces will come soon enough. The pendulum swings both ways and it always has. You're either too young or too immature (I'm being kind) to understand. And please, get to bed. You've got school tommorrow.
Chicopee

United States

#32 Mar 21, 2013
MAID IN AMERICA wrote:
<quoted text>Spoken like a 19th century miser...It costs MONEY to process and deliver mail,you idiot...I think at even today's rates you're getting a bargain...Do you get to operate your computer online, so can show everybody you're a JERK, for free???...Everything costs...PAY UP, Doctor Deadbeat!!!!
Spoken like a true, pro-entitlement-big nanny state supporter, who thinks the piles of taxpayer dollars grow under the mulch piles in our yards and that we should happily pay those dollars to continue to support an otherwise unsustainable business with more employees than work to do. Because the fiscal woes and bankruptsy facing many of the EU countries following that exact formula can't happen here, right?
Please tell me you're not old enough to actually vote.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#33 Mar 21, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Stupid, the Postal Service doesn't get appropriations from Congress. i.e, they're not operating with tax money.
How much more don't you know about American Government......? ROFLMAO
Congress long restricted the Post Office from competing in the parcel delivery business on equal terms as UPS and Fed Ex. This is just one example of the Republicans purposely trying to destroy the Institutions that make America great.
Actually, the USPS is in the Constitution.

It'll be interesting how cons handle this if what you suspect is true.
Miriam

Oviedo, FL

#34 Mar 22, 2013
Part of the reason they are going broke is,the amount of supervisors that stand behind you you and watch you work.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#35 Mar 22, 2013
the USPS crops personnel by attrition since the Republicans sabotage their competitive edge in the parcel delivery business.

More of the Marxist style worker mandates undertaken and perfected by Ronald Reagan during the Air Traffic Control dispute where Reagan fired the Controllers.

This is more of the example of the Republicans conspiring and using policies against American middle class workers.
Chicopee wrote:
<quoted text>
The USPS workload dropped by 12 billion pieces of mail delivered between 2006 and 2009 alone, and that is projected to drop by 170 billion pieces by the year 2020.
USPS workers enjoy a no layoff policy with their union contract, so in spite of a 9% decrease in demand in 2009 alone, they can't cut their payroll to accomodate the shrinking demand as any other company would be forced to do.
The federal government offered to cut a deal in which any laid off postal workers would recieve a replacement position in another federal job, but the workers and the union rejected that idea, as well. And why not? Many believe that the USPS can't go out of business, so they feel secure in their demands.
The USPS did recieve a $15 billion loan from the Treasury during the 90's and many believe they will recieve anpther "bailout" again soon.
Being a government entity doesn't negate simple accounting. The USPS is running in the red because their workforce is too big for the demand and the decrease in the revenue it is earning, and is in part why they have to pay for their legacy costs up front, rather than sticking the taxpayers with it down the road.
No one wants to see anyone lose their jobs, but millions of middle class Americans have lost jobs since the 2008 crash. Why do you, or anyone for that matter, think that a job with the government entitles one to a lifetime appointment? Is a federal worker more special or entitled than a private sector worker?
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#36 Mar 22, 2013
Miriam wrote:
Part of the reason they are going broke is,the amount of supervisors that stand behind you you and watch you work.
The Post office is going broke because of the regressive financial demands the Republican Majority imposed on the Postal Services requiring a $5 Billion Dollar yearly payment to pre pay retirees medical benefits.

Before they can pay anything, they are required by legislation to pre pay those accounts. The Republicans required this pre Payment to drive the Postal Service into Bankruptcy.

It's disappointing some of you don't seem to know the mandates Republicans implemented to drive the Post office into Bankruptcy in 2005.

This is part of the campaign to reduce the size of the Federal Government to a point where it can be drowned in a bathtub. Never mind the Postal Services provides veterans a serviceable career wit h livable wages.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#37 Mar 22, 2013
Your assumption is totally wrong, the Post Office doesn't receiver money for their expenses from Congress.

The Post Office is self sustaining, There are no congressional appropriations.

It's not possible you understand this debate and what is happening with the Post Office believing their compensation comes out of Federal Tax revenues.

It's not possible to take a position on a political matter if you don't have basic information concerning that matter, you're more opted to draw a ridiculous conclusion.
Chicopee wrote:
<quoted text>
Spoken like a true, pro-entitlement-big nanny state supporter, who thinks the piles of taxpayer dollars grow under the mulch piles in our yards and that we should happily pay those dollars to continue to support an otherwise unsustainable business with more employees than work to do. Because the fiscal woes and bankruptsy facing many of the EU countries following that exact formula can't happen here, right?
Please tell me you're not old enough to actually vote.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#38 Mar 22, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Look for stamp prices to go to $1 just to mail a letter.
Thanks Congress, you screwed us all again!
Don't worry, we can bail out the pension plan later.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#39 Mar 22, 2013
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
Right. Drive the government out of business.
What then?
A country of 310 million citizens without a
functioning government.
A moronic teabagger's dream and a nightmare for the
average citizen.
What do we end up with?
A Libertarian dystopia?
God, those people are ignorant. Pure filth!
Right now we have 545 people, 435 in congress, 9 Judges of Scotus and one president that got us into this mess and hurting 300,000, 000 people. How does three hundred million people control their lives, furthers and that of our children and grandchildren. That is not what the founding fathers envisioned.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#40 Mar 22, 2013
fatbacksx wrote:
How about a vote to pry congress off it's fat a--? Now there's a totally worthless congregation of thumb in the a-- tards.
Right now we have 545 people, 435 in congress, 9 Judges of Scotus and one president that got us into this mess and hurting 300,000,000 people. How does three hundred million people let these 545 control their lives further and that of our children and grandchildren. That is not what the founding fathers envisioned.

This is what our founding father came to America to get away from. Tyrany, high taxes, no real say in government and less freedom daily.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#41 Mar 22, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Your assumption is totally wrong, the Post Office doesn't receiver money for their expenses from Congress.
The Post Office is self sustaining, There are no congressional appropriations.
It's not possible you understand this debate and what is happening with the Post Office believing their compensation comes out of Federal Tax revenues.
It's not possible to take a position on a political matter if you don't have basic information concerning that matter, you're more opted to draw a ridiculous conclusion.
<quoted text>
They must live within their means. Just like those of us paying their salaries that are exorbant.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#42 Mar 22, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>
Right now we have 545 people, 435 in congress, 9 Judges of Scotus and one president that got us into this mess and hurting 300,000, 000 people. How does three hundred million people control their lives, furthers and that of our children and grandchildren. That is not what the founding fathers envisioned.
oops, hit the send too quickly.

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