After Senate win, gay groups shift focus to Obama

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In this June 13, 2013, file photo, Vice President Joe Biden, left, pats President Barack Obama, right, on the chest while he speaks at a reception in the East Room of the White House in Washington to celebrate lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender pride month.

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“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#1 Nov 8, 2013
I tend to lean toward Obama's not signing the Executive Order on this one. It will make for a better campaign in the mid-terms if it is held up to the light that Republicans again want to discriminate. He can, if need be, sign such an order after the mid-terms. Or, if Dems get control of the House, an iffy proposition, they could pass the bill then.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#2 Nov 8, 2013
RalphB wrote:
I tend to lean toward Obama's not signing the Executive Order on this one. It will make for a better campaign in the mid-terms if it is held up to the light that Republicans again want to discriminate. He can, if need be, sign such an order after the mid-terms. Or, if Dems get control of the House, an iffy proposition, they could pass the bill then.
I'd call The Obamanaic a snake in the grass, but as an animal rights person, I certainly don't want to denigrate snakes.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#3 Nov 8, 2013
RalphB wrote:
I tend to lean toward Obama's not signing the Executive Order on this one. It will make for a better campaign in the mid-terms if it is held up to the light that Republicans again want to discriminate. He can, if need be, sign such an order after the mid-terms. Or, if Dems get control of the House, an iffy proposition, they could pass the bill then.
It will still be a mid-term issue regardless, in fact the Executive order could make it a bigger issue by showing the falicies put forth by the right wing. The very fact that there has been no major increase of lawsuits in states that already have non discrimination laws in place would only be made more clear.

Ignore the idiot who wants to give animals rights. He's nothing but a sniveling fool.
lolol

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Nov 8, 2013
forget the bill that would make it law, just let the emperor issue another royal edict that can be easily cancelled by the next prez who isn't a flamer themselves.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#5 Nov 8, 2013
I agree that an Executive order would likely demonstrate the fallacy of the GOPasaurs arguments.

However, the anti-gays will wait for the first lawsuit and hold that up as an example, while claiming it's just the first of millions of lawsuits to come.

Remember the anti-gays are VERY good at twisting stats in their favor.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#6 Nov 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
I agree that an Executive order would likely demonstrate the fallacy of the GOPasaurs arguments.
However, the anti-gays will wait for the first lawsuit and hold that up as an example, while claiming it's just the first of millions of lawsuits to come.
Remember the anti-gays are VERY good at twisting stats in their favor.
Why have an elected Congress that is supposed to represent the people at all, if The Obamaniac is simply gong to act as emperor and rule by decree ? THAT is what DEMOCRATS stand for ?! Is THAT what Gov. Bev Perdue meant when she said that "elections should be suspended for a few years" ? THAT'S what DEMOCRATS stand for ?! why, how "democratic" of them !:)

"You can vote for ANY party you want just as long as it is us !:)" (Shades of Joseph Stalin not surprisingly).

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#7 Nov 8, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Why have an elected Congress that is supposed to represent the people at all, if The Obamaniac is simply gong to act as emperor and rule by decree ? THAT is what DEMOCRATS stand for ?! Is THAT what Gov. Bev Perdue meant when she said that "elections should be suspended for a few years" ? THAT'S what DEMOCRATS stand for ?! why, how "democratic" of them !:)
"You can vote for ANY party you want just as long as it is us !:)" (Shades of Joseph Stalin not surprisingly).
Like Republican Presidents have never issued an Executive Order. You're nothing more than a troll.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#8 Nov 8, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
Why have an elected Congress that is supposed to represent the people at all, if The Obamaniac is simply gong to act as emperor and rule by decree ? THAT is what DEMOCRATS stand for ?! Is THAT what Gov. Bev Perdue meant when she said that "elections should be suspended for a few years" ? THAT'S what DEMOCRATS stand for ?! why, how "democratic" of them !:)
"You can vote for ANY party you want just as long as it is us !:)" (Shades of Joseph Stalin not surprisingly).
EVERY president has issued executive orders, and the SCOTUS has upheld them as constitutional.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#9 Nov 8, 2013
TomInElPaso wrote:
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Like Republican Presidents have never issued an Executive Order. You're nothing more than a troll.
Why, how "DEMOCRATIC" of them.:)

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#10 Nov 8, 2013
RalphB wrote:
I tend to lean toward Obama's not signing the Executive Order on this one. It will make for a better campaign in the mid-terms if it is held up to the light that Republicans again want to discriminate. He can, if need be, sign such an order after the mid-terms. Or, if Dems get control of the House, an iffy proposition, they could pass the bill then.
Obama should absolutely sign an executive order as soon as the House has demonstrably buried the bill.

Most importantly, it will provide much-needed protections to employees (although the largest government contractors already have non-discrimination policies). It will give the right-wing wackos a rallying point, which will then be disseminated to embarrass the wackos. It will provide evidence that that Democrats actually deliver on their promises.[Add these protections to Matthew Shepard/James Byrd, repeal of DADT, demise of DOMA, etc.]

The right wing will gain nothing from the additional talking point. Their rabid troops are already riled about DADT and marriage. Moreover, they are not bothered by what Obama has actually done or not done: You can watch them foam at the mouth by saying ANYTHING AT ALL about Obama, true or not.

But the Democrats will gain new voters by running on the issue. And the most valuable group, young voters, will be swayed by their opposition to bigotry to vote Democratic.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#11 Nov 8, 2013
I suppose there are points on both sides of whether he should sign an EO. I'm just going to let him make the decision, and give him support in whichever way he goes. After all, it is politics, and he's much better at it than I am. I just don't think the pressure should be put on, but rather, trust him to make the right decision at the right time.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#12 Nov 8, 2013
RalphB wrote:
I suppose there are points on both sides of whether he should sign an EO. I'm just going to let him make the decision, and give him support in whichever way he goes. After all, it is politics, and he's much better at it than I am. I just don't think the pressure should be put on, but rather, trust him to make the right decision at the right time.
Every decision made by a President is made under pressure. The easy ones are decided by staffers.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#13 Nov 8, 2013
Americans will pay little attention to the impact of a small number of sodomites terrorizing Senators to vote for more special rights for sodomites. Sodomites have gained special rights and special recognition for a few decades only through terror, threats and intentional infection of America with disease, both physical and moral. Even should a previously sodomite President go along with it, Americans will ask the only pertinent question... "How could he be a previous sodomite?"

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#14 Nov 8, 2013
No doubt you were also a birther.

Stupid is as stupid does.
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Americans will pay little attention to the impact of a small number of sodomites terrorizing Senators to vote for more special rights for sodomites. Sodomites have gained special rights and special recognition for a few decades only through terror, threats and intentional infection of America with disease, both physical and moral. Even should a previously sodomite President go along with it, Americans will ask the only pertinent question... "How could he be a previous sodomite?"
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#15 Nov 8, 2013
I'd like to see a straight pride month. Why do they have a "lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender pride month" anyway? Most of them say they wouldn't be gay if they had a choice.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#16 Nov 8, 2013
Wondering wrote:
I'd like to see a straight pride month. Why do they have a "lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender pride month" anyway? Most of them say they wouldn't be gay if they had a choice.
Take an hour, and LEARN.

http://video.pbs.org/video/1889649613/
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#18 Nov 8, 2013
lolol wrote:
forget the bill that would make it law, just let the emperor issue another royal edict that can be easily cancelled by the next prez who isn't a flamer themselves.
Hillary is not a flamer
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#19 Nov 8, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
Why have an elected Congress that is supposed to represent the people at all, if The Obamaniac is simply gong to act as emperor and rule by decree ? THAT is what DEMOCRATS stand for ?! Is THAT what Gov. Bev Perdue meant when she said that "elections should be suspended for a few years" ? THAT'S what DEMOCRATS stand for ?! why, how "democratic" of them !:)
"You can vote for ANY party you want just as long as it is us !:)" (Shades of Joseph Stalin not surprisingly).
The elected officials in the House of Representatives are inadequate
.
So to keep the government wheels turning; Obama is forced to compensate for the shortfall
.
Its his job

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#20 Nov 8, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
The elected officials in the House of Representatives are inadequate
.
So to keep the government wheels turning; Obama is forced to compensate for the shortfall
.
Its his job
LOL You're a loon !
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#21 Nov 8, 2013
Wondering wrote:
I'd like to see a straight pride month
Where in the heck do you plan to find a proud straight person?

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