Congress ready to extend ban on plast...

Congress ready to extend ban on plastic firearms

There are 11 comments on the WLNE-TV Providence story from Dec 9, 2013, titled Congress ready to extend ban on plastic firearms. In it, WLNE-TV Providence reports that:

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experience anonyMoses

Hanoi, Vietnam

#2 Dec 9, 2013
;-000000000h, Tobotopix it"s dat U call arms?!!;-0
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#5 Dec 10, 2013
"Some plastic guns meet the letter of the current law with a metal piece that can be removed, making them a threat to be slipped past security screeners at schools, airports and elsewhere."

Someone tell me who makes this gun and where you can buy one. I think it is a lie. You can't make new laws based on a lie. Good thing the NRA got the change defeated.
canser suxs

Faribault, MN

#6 Dec 10, 2013
I am in full support of the 2nd amendment. But when the 2nd was written they had no idea of the horrors weapons would become. If it is true that these plastic guns cant be detected if hidden then yes they should be banned.
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#7 Dec 10, 2013
canser suxs wrote:
I am in full support of the 2nd amendment. But when the 2nd was written they had no idea of the horrors weapons would become. If it is true that these plastic guns cant be detected if hidden then yes they should be banned.
There are no plastic guns. Nobody wants to make them. If an individual somehow got the ability to make one with a 3D printer then it would already be illegal. You can't lawfully make your own gun, plastic guns were already illegal under the original plastic gun law.

They just want to change the law so they could slip something else in while nobody was looking.
canser suxs

Faribault, MN

#8 Dec 10, 2013
Robert wrote:
<quoted text> There are no plastic guns. Nobody wants to make them. If an individual somehow got the ability to make one with a 3D printer then it would already be illegal. You can't lawfully make your own gun, plastic guns were already illegal under the original plastic gun law.
They just want to change the law so they could slip something else in while nobody was looking.
Maybe. I guess would like to read whole bill before deny or support it. But there is some weapons no citizen should have. Right?
conservative crapola

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#9 Dec 10, 2013
Already signed by President Obama. Another obsolete toothpix thread.
lamer

Norwalk, OH

#11 Dec 11, 2013
Robert wrote:
<quoted text> There are no plastic guns. Nobody wants to make them. If an individual somehow got the ability to make one with a 3D printer then it would already be illegal. You can't lawfully make your own gun, plastic guns were already illegal under the original plastic gun law.
They just want to change the law so they could slip something else in while nobody was looking.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. You are allowed you make your own firearm for personal use and many already do. There are also gun companies being formed strictly around plastic and 3d printed guns including open source communities such as Defense Distributed that host schematics and such.

You could clearly check Youtube and see that there very much are plastic guns. For them to be legal inside the USA, you must insert a piece of metal that will allow metal detectors to detect it which is where the renew of this law comes from.

This has already been law for a few decades, the only real news peice here is that we actually have plastic guns being built at home where before they passed this bill and there where no home built plastic guns.
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#12 Dec 11, 2013
lamer wrote:
<quoted text>
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. You are allowed you make your own firearm for personal use and many already do. There are also gun companies being formed strictly around plastic and 3d printed guns including open source communities such as Defense Distributed that host schematics and such.
You could clearly check Youtube and see that there very much are plastic guns. For them to be legal inside the USA, you must insert a piece of metal that will allow metal detectors to detect it which is where the renew of this law comes from.
This has already been law for a few decades, the only real news peice here is that we actually have plastic guns being built at home where before they passed this bill and there where no home built plastic guns.
We are discussing the need for a change in the existing law that is to be renewed. There are some who say that we need to craft the law so that nobody will make a plastic gun which has a removable part that would allow it to pass the detectors. This will in no way impact someone who wants to build a plastic gun with or without a removable part. The only people that a change in the law would impact is someone who wanted to make a lawful firearm with a removable piece of metal. I say it does not exist because anyone wanting to make a plastic gun like that is not going to go through the ATF process to make a legal gun and no company especially with product liability makes or intends to make one. It is a needless bunch of if's. It is a practical matter, someone making such a gun will not be making a lawful one to take to the airport, if they don't make a lawful one it is already illegal, so a solution to a problem that does not exist.

“Geologist [I'm Climate Change]”

Since: Mar 07

formerly Nuneaton

#13 Dec 11, 2013
Hmm the Americans are getting younger in congress I see.

Looks like some of them like heavy metal nowadays... A remarkable change from the goings on about 25 years ago.

Have a nice day: Ag
lamer

Hamilton, OH

#14 Dec 11, 2013
Robert wrote:
<quoted text>
We are discussing the need for a change in the existing law that is to be renewed. There are some who say that we need to craft the law so that nobody will make a plastic gun which has a removable part that would allow it to pass the detectors. This will in no way impact someone who wants to build a plastic gun with or without a removable part. The only people that a change in the law would impact is someone who wanted to make a lawful firearm with a removable piece of metal. I say it does not exist because anyone wanting to make a plastic gun like that is not going to go through the ATF process to make a legal gun and no company especially with product liability makes or intends to make one. It is a needless bunch of if's. It is a practical matter, someone making such a gun will not be making a lawful one to take to the airport, if they don't make a lawful one it is already illegal, so a solution to a problem that does not exist.
You keep saying no one will do this inside the confines of the law. There ALREADY are new new businesses opening for this exact purpose. And it is not just firearms per say with this law as magizines, stocks and many other parts of a gun will fall under these guidelines.

I understand what you are saying about criminals and how they still will not follow these laws but for some of these new gun businesses starting up; if they dont follow these laws they are out of business.

I am not particularly for or against the law and i understand that even passing the law still mean enforcement of such laws are going to be very hard; especially for those who wish to circumvent the laws. But as i said before, this law has been passed for decades, the only real difference now is it is not just an "IF" as we now have these things.
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#15 Dec 12, 2013
lamer wrote:
<quoted text>
You keep saying no one will do this inside the confines of the law. There ALREADY are new new businesses opening for this exact purpose. And it is not just firearms per say with this law as magizines, stocks and many other parts of a gun will fall under these guidelines.
I understand what you are saying about criminals and how they still will not follow these laws but for some of these new gun businesses starting up; if they dont follow these laws they are out of business.
I am not particularly for or against the law and i understand that even passing the law still mean enforcement of such laws are going to be very hard; especially for those who wish to circumvent the laws. But as i said before, this law has been passed for decades, the only real difference now is it is not just an "IF" as we now have these things.
I still think you miss the point, criminals can already do this, they can download the file off the internet and print one assuming they have a printer that is good enough and the right materials to feed it. Plastic guns are already illegal changing the law to require the metal to be impossible to remove only affects companies or individuals with the right Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms permits from making a gun with the minimal required metal which is removable. I say again show me any company what has or wants to do that, they don't exist. The existing plastic gun ban was sufficient and there was no need to monkey with it.

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