Liberals running country into ground

[Lisa]

Of course Obama is a Muslim. He's even admitted it in numerous interviews. He said his father was born in Kenya and he came from a long line of Muslims. I agree with Barry. We would like to see his birth certificate.

[gossamer]

Semi-literate wrote:

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Have we seen YOURS? How can an illegal immigrant like yourself think they have the right to question the president? Why don't you go back to Mexico, China, or New Jersey where you belong?

Have we seen your birth certificate? Why doesn't an illegal alien like you go back to Afganistan where your follower Osama Bin Laden is?

[Avenging Angel]

Semi-literate wrote:

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Sorry, Pal. Attempting to denegrate my statement with your first sentence comprised of pseudo-academic blather has NOTHING at all to do with this issue. I know it is the Karl Rovian and Rush Limburgian tactic to attempt to "bait and switch" on hard issues, but it won't do in this case. Stick to the topic.

I did stick to the topic, Pal.

You obviously are an uneducated lout if you do not understand that one simple rule of logic. You can not prove a negative. So, instead of sinking to the standard level of liberal denigration tactics by trying to insult me (and I consider it an honour to be equated with Rove and Limbaugh BTW. Very smart men who use rational and deliberative processes to get their points across and achieve their goals), perhaps you could try and pull your partisan head out of your partisan rear end.

I stated that I think Barry O is a native born American citizen. My posting was to explain why people think the way they do and what it would take to settle most of the concerns that (some of) the public has.

[Semi-literate]

Barry O wrote:

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You can't prove a negative. That's why we'd like to see his birth certificate. And his college grades, term papers, etc. Barry, we hard hardly know ye.

Yeah, sure: an example of yet another tired old Rovian tactic: keep repeating the lie and re-manipulate your attempt to make a point to foster more distraction. just because you repeat a lie, dosn't magically make it true.
The Nazis liked that tactic a lot too, so you are in really great company.
Care to give the citation in Logic that a negative cannot be proven?
Care to display your own birth certificate? I hear you don't have one except the phoney one you had made while buying drugs in Afghanistan a few years ago? Care to disprove that? Why don't all of your friends go out and have some more Red Herring for lunch today? You can follow that with a nice course of smoke and mirrors.

[Avenging Angel]

CantBeSerious wrote:

First, the President has produced his birth certificate. It's available on the web, and you could have determined that yourself with a simple Google search.
Second, the fact that a person does not present proof to refute absurd back-handed accusations is proof of nothing. If the President held a press conference tomorrow, and started leveling absurd accusations that Bill O'Reilly had not paid his taxes last year, the fact the fact that O'Reilly refused to release his tax records would not be proof that O'Reilly did not pay his taxes.
If you want to accuse someone of something, then do it. Make your accusation, and be prepared to prove its truth. Don't just parrot absurd innuendo, and then point to the accused person to disprove your accusation. The fact that Fox News has made an art of skating just on the thing edge of slander, by making accusations through innuendo and then backing away from them, does not make those accusations are proof of anything.

And we all know that NBC, ABC, CNN, CBS, the Washington Post, and NY Times have ALL been so above reproach when dealing with conservatives. Nope, never committed actual slander, libel, and defamation there.

Can'tBeSerious- your name says it all. You really can't be serious.....

[Semi-literate]

Avenging Angel wrote:

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I did stick to the topic, Pal.
You obviously are an uneducated lout if you do not understand that one simple rule of logic. You can not prove a negative. So, instead of sinking to the standard level of liberal denigration tactics by trying to insult me (and I consider it an honour to be equated with Rove and Limbaugh BTW. Very smart men who use rational and deliberative processes to get their points across and achieve their goals), perhaps you could try and pull your partisan head out of your partisan rear end.
I stated that I think Barry O is a native born American citizen. My posting was to explain why people think the way they do and what it would take to settle most of the concerns that (some of) the public has.

Certainly you know as well as I that the people who want to believe our president is what the radical Fascist Right (your self-admitted heroes) purport him to be would not believe Obama if he invited them to the White House personally, showed them the original documents, had his delivery doctor present to swear on a Bible held by the Pope that his birth happened as the certificate showed, and had God himself sign the papers in confirmation.
They'd still call it a Left-Wing media-inspired hoax and insist that they "knew" better. people like that know nothing but the last opinion Rush Limgaugh spoon fed to them.

[Avenging Angel]

Semi-literate wrote:

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Certainly you know as well as I that the people who want to believe our president is what the radical Fascist Right (your self-admitted heroes) purport him to be would not believe Obama if he invited them to the White House personally, showed them the original documents, had his delivery doctor present to swear on a Bible held by the Pope that his birth happened as the certificate showed, and had God himself sign the papers in confirmation.
They'd still call it a Left-Wing media-inspired hoax and insist that they "knew" better. people like that know nothing but the last opinion Rush Limgaugh spoon fed to them.

I disagree.

With hard proof, people will accept/believe. And before you paint the conservative's with a broad brush- please state, with verifiable sources, the so called "leaders" who have said that Barry O is not an American. Specifically, show me where Rove and Limbaugh have stated such.

Now, lets look at what the Murderous Commie Left (you can say Facist Right, then I can say that) did to Bush and our soldiers. From John Kerry lying about "war atrocities" committed in Vietnam and Afghanistan to Dan Rather's falsified documents on Bush's National Guard service (which is more than Barry O ever did BTW), the Left has a proven and consistant track record of lying, slander, libel, and defamation. Oh- and they never admit their wrong, too.

[gossamer]

Semi-literate wrote:

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Yeah, sure: an example of yet another tired old Rovian tactic: keep repeating the lie and re-manipulate your attempt to make a point to foster more distraction. just because you repeat a lie, dosn't magically make it true.
The Nazis liked that tactic a lot too, so you are in really great company.
Care to give the citation in Logic that a negative cannot be proven?
Care to display your own birth certificate? I hear you don't have one except the phoney one you had made while buying drugs in Afghanistan a few years ago? Care to disprove that? Why don't all of your friends go out and have some more Red Herring for lunch today? You can follow that with a nice course of smoke and mirrors.

Show your birth certificate you blood sucking illegal alien Osama Bin Laden follower.

[thinkforyourself]

One need only look at the state ran by liberals to see what their socio-economic ideology will do to the entire country. How exactly is California or New York doing these days.

[Tony]

If you want the proof that the libs are running this country into the ground, just follow the administration and their assistants in the press as they discuss the Fort Hood massacre. They will call it anything but a terrorist massacre. It's a tragedy, an unfortunate happening, etc. Hasan is mentally ill, or at best, a religious wackco, JUST LIKE THEM CHRISTIANS. They can't make enough excuses for this guy.

[Avenging Angel]

thinkforyourself wrote:

One need only look at the state ran by liberals to see what their socio-economic ideology will do to the entire country. How exactly is California or New York doing these days.

And Michigan, Ohio, New Jersey, Massachuesetts.......

[Semi-literate]

gossamer wrote:

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Show your birth certificate you blood sucking illegal alien Osama Bin Laden follower.

As ex CIA, if I showed you my birth certificate, I'd also have to kill you. Moreover, if I actually hade the chance to follow Binny Baby, I'd "tap" him twice where it counted, then follow up with a head shot to make sure.
If you want to bwe a really good ranter, you need to get better with your concepts. They are far too simple.

[Semi-literate]

Avenging Angel wrote:

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I disagree.
With hard proof, people will accept/believe. And before you paint the conservative's with a broad brush- please state, with verifiable sources, the so called "leaders" who have said that Barry O is not an American. Specifically, show me where Rove and Limbaugh have stated such.
Now, lets look at what the Murderous Commie Left (you can say Facist Right, then I can say that) did to Bush and our soldiers. From John Kerry lying about "war atrocities" committed in Vietnam and Afghanistan to Dan Rather's falsified documents on Bush's National Guard service (which is more than Barry O ever did BTW), the Left has a proven and consistant track record of lying, slander, libel, and defamation. Oh- and they never admit their wrong, too.

My God, are you ever naive! Atrocities in war are perpetrated by both sides in nearly every action there is. You don't know squat about the military, and how s--t hits the fan when the lead starts to fly, do you? bush was, and is, a total joke. The only Republican joke funnier is Sarah Palin. Go on, tell us how hot she is.

[King Tut]

How about his brand of condoms???? Same as Slick Willys????

Barry O wrote:

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You can't prove a negative. That's why we'd like to see his birth certificate. And his college grades, term papers, etc. Barry, we hard hardly know ye.

[thinkforyourself]

Avenging Angel wrote:

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And Michigan, Ohio, New Jersey, Massachuesetts.......

Exactly they're all,bankrupt

[Avenging Angel]

thinkforyourself wrote:

<quoted text>Exactly they're all,bankrupt

They sure are. Thank you Liberals.....

[Avenging Angel]

Semi-literate wrote:

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My God, are you ever naive! Atrocities in war are perpetrated by both sides in nearly every action there is. You don't know squat about the military, and how s--t hits the fan when the lead starts to fly, do you? bush was, and is, a total joke. The only Republican joke funnier is Sarah Palin. Go on, tell us how hot she is.

You are a complete retard. Seriously- you were never in the CIA (unless you count the time playing on computer spy games...)

Lets see if you can read and understand the following. Doubt it though.

1) I was in the military and come from a military family. I doubt that you ever saw combat.
2) Kerry got up in front of Congress in the 70's and stated that the US soldiers killed, raped, and pillaged in "the manner of Genghis Khan". A discredited lie. He has also accused our soldiers, more recently, of terrorizing and killing innocent villagers in Afghanistan. Nice guy giving aid and comfort to our enemies. Yes, crimes are committed in warfare by both sides, but to make the comments and lies that he did is unforgiveable.
3) Bush may have been a joke (he wasn't) but Obama is a tragedy. BTW- Bush did have higher grades than Kerry in college. I disagreed with him on one major issue. He spent too much money. Between No Child Left Behind and Medicare Prescription Drug plans, too much was spent. Then we got screwed by the Democratic led Congress which presided over one of the biggest economic disasters in our history.
4) Palin is kinda hot. If she was single, I'd be her sled dog. I think you probably feel that Barney Frank is hot, but I digress....

[Semi-literate]

Avenging Angel wrote:

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You are a complete retard. Seriously- you were never in the CIA (unless you count the time playing on computer spy games...)
Lets see if you can read and understand the following. Doubt it though.
1) I was in the military and come from a military family. I doubt that you ever saw combat.
2) Kerry got up in front of Congress in the 70's and stated that the US soldiers killed, raped, and pillaged in "the manner of Genghis Khan". A discredited lie. He has also accused our soldiers, more recently, of terrorizing and killing innocent villagers in Afghanistan. Nice guy giving aid and comfort to our enemies. Yes, crimes are committed in warfare by both sides, but to make the comments and lies that he did is unforgiveable.
3) Bush may have been a joke (he wasn't) but Obama is a tragedy. BTW- Bush did have higher grades than Kerry in college. I disagreed with him on one major issue. He spent too much money. Between No Child Left Behind and Medicare Prescription Drug plans, too much was spent. Then we got screwed by the Democratic led Congress which presided over one of the biggest economic disasters in our history.
4) Palin is kinda hot. If she was single, I'd be her sled dog. I think you probably feel that Barney Frank is hot, but I digress....

You have no sense of humor at all, do you?
Sled Dog to Sarah? Sounds like a good title for a childrens' book. The kind Bush likes to color in. I think if you woke up next to Palin, you'd be pretty disappointed: I know I was. Without the makeup, she's a wildebeast. She has pores the size of Baltimore potholes!
Why don't you just hippity-hop down to DC and fix the government for everyone as you seem to know so much about things?
BTW, we laid waste to countless villages in Vietnam and "free fire zones" were exactly that; but "being in the military" you must have missed all that from your REMF job in Alabama polishing basketballs for inter-service competitions. And in fact I have been in the Culinary Institute of America. Oh, you wanna tell us who are friends are in Afghanistan, and how to tell them apart from our enemies in Afganistan?

[Gangofone]

thinkforyourself wrote:

One need only look at the state ran by liberals to see what their socio-economic ideology will do to the entire country. How exactly is California or New York doing these days.

And, God forbid the Federal government help those states out (SMALL government!, Remember!). By the way, California has been under Republican rule for six years now!

[JeffreyABrown]

Daniel Blair, whose letter started this thread, stated that "liberals who lack facts or empirical data resort to name-calling and derision".
I would therefore like to thank the many "conservative" contributors to this thread who've shown that most of the name-calling and derision comes from the right and not the left, thereby proving that Mr. Blair is full of crap.
Nice job, guys!