Obama urges vote on assault weapons ban

Obama urges vote on assault weapons ban

There are 74 comments on the Click Orlando story from Mar 23, 2013, titled Obama urges vote on assault weapons ban. In it, Click Orlando reports that:

President Barack Obama called on the Senate to vote on a controversial ban on semiautomatic firearms modeled after military-style assault weapons, despite dim predictions from Senate leadership that such a ban will have any luck passing the upper chamber.

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#55 Mar 24, 2013
RustyS wrote:
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I might add that the founding fathers never thought X rated movies would be covered by the 1st Amendment. They never would have considered gay marriage as the right to pursue happiness. So what's your point, get rid of everything 'out dated'? Make the age of consent 12? If it's for a good reason, unwarranted searches are OK, the founding fathers didnít know about meth, so the 4th Amendment can go. Youíre on a roll, keep going.
I will. The United States directly following the American Revolution in many ways bears little resemblance to the United States of today. What this country needs is a panel of highly esteemed, reasonable and visionary people who can see the world as it is today, with all its problems, freedoms, and restrictions. They should study, debate, and ultimately decide what is realistic in our time, what language in the Constitution makes sense today, and what language may need updating or expsnding.

The authors of our Constitution delibrated and argued fiercely about the wording of this document. These were by and large insightful, intelligent, and visionary men. But these were men, not gods. Their ability to see the future had its limits. I believe if they were asked to create a Constitution for today's United States, that document would differ in many respects, and reflect the dynamics of our country and the world as they are today.

Your somewhat absurd comments about gay marriage, age of consent, etc. would all be considered in the light of common sense. My own opinion is that when it comes to gay marriage, the idea would not even be considered, just as in the original document, since they would tacitly recognize marriage as an equal right, available to all adults.

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#56 Mar 24, 2013
So Larry, who would appoint this panel to re-invent the wheel?
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>I will. The United States directly following the American Revolution in many ways bears little resemblance to the United States of today. What this country needs is a panel of highly esteemed, reasonable and visionary people who can see the world as it is today, with all its problems, freedoms, and restrictions. They should study, debate, and ultimately decide what is realistic in our time, what language in the Constitution makes sense today, and what language may need updating or expsnding.
The authors of our Constitution delibrated and argued fiercely about the wording of this document. These were by and large insightful, intelligent, and visionary men. But these were men, not gods. Their ability to see the future had its limits. I believe if they were asked to create a Constitution for today's United States, that document would differ in many respects, and reflect the dynamics of our country and the world as they are today.
Your somewhat absurd comments about gay marriage, age of consent, etc. would all be considered in the light of common sense. My own opinion is that when it comes to gay marriage, the idea would not even be considered, just as in the original document, since they would tacitly recognize marriage as an equal right, available to all adults.

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#57 Mar 24, 2013
RustyS wrote:
So Larry, who would appoint this panel to re-invent the wheel?
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I would, of course!

More seriously, how were the framers chosen then? I would imagine a similar approach could be used. I realize it would have to be either bi-partisan, or non-partisan.

As to re-inventing the wheel, you and I seem to be far apart. I believe the wheel has a few spokes loose, which need fixing or replacing. Again, I think if the framers were alive today, they would agree.
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United States

#58 Mar 24, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
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No NOT AGAIN. It's been a long hard night. My bib is soaking wet.
you and me both. I have wiped my chin so many times I can't stop talking about it. mm mm good

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#59 Mar 24, 2013
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you and me both. I have wiped my chin so many times I can't stop talking about it. mm mm good
It doesn't matter whose screen names you steal. The irony is that you have to live with yourself 24 hours a day. I couldn't think of a better punishment.
drinK The hivE

New York, NY

#64 Mar 24, 2013
Drive Obama' Ambulance And Thrill Me With Your Socio - Political Acumen On How This F***ng Fraud Got Nobel Prize...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploa...

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#66 Mar 24, 2013
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It does? Provide the text, knucklehead.
May I cut in? You'll find the text Responsibility was referring to in your favorite amendment,#2. Look for the phrase, "a WELL REGULATED militia..." Now prove that you are well regulated or part of a militia.

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#69 Mar 24, 2013
Say the Truth wrote:
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We have even MORE reason to be wary of the Federal Govt than ever before. They founders could not have imagined the multitude of ways that a citizens freedom, property, and privacy may be removed on a whim. I guess you are a low info voter, Lar.
Almost no private citizen in this country owns an assault weapon.
Which of your alleged rights have been removed?

You add further credibility to my theory that there is a condition I will call "Wingnut Paranoia". I'm still working on a more catchy name, but that should do for now. It applies to anyone in this country who believes the federal government is about to attack them.

And, you gun loons who think you can defend yourself against an attack from the federales by arming yourselves, paranoia ranks second to your delusions of grandeur.

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#70 Mar 24, 2013
Say the Truth wrote:
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LMAO!! Now who exactly will pick this "panel"?
The same people who think that Obama should be given unlimited power, but only "temporarily", to "fix" our problems without all that messy negotiation?
You realize of course that your idea is grossly unConstitutional, right?
BTW, the Framers DID provide a way to change the Constitution, and it's been done numerous times, even quite recently.
I've already replied to this kind of question. Look for it, or not. Who cares?

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#71 Mar 24, 2013
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No, don't, because you will only make a fool of yourself....Whoops! Too late!
You've already achieved that goal.
mike

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#74 Mar 24, 2013
Start spraying birth control meds over minority neighborhood. It's a good start in lowering future crime

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#77 Mar 24, 2013
Say the Truth wrote:
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Hey, you want public safety? How about a Ferderal Curfew, where no one (except certain "authorized (i.e., members of the leading elite)) may be out of their homes without first registering their itineraries, then, if approved by the Public Safety Czar, are required to be tracked using a GPS-enabled ankle bracelet.
Violators will be sent to a Federal Max camp for their and other citizen's "safety".
Wadda ya think about that? Progressive thinking, eh?
No, more like paranoid thinking. People in your camp seem to come up the most fanciful fun-house ideas in your alternate reality.

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#78 Mar 24, 2013
Say the Truth wrote:
<quoted text>Nothing in the Constitution says that firearms must be regulated. In fact, it expressly states that owning and bearing SHALL NOT be infringed. At all. Go tell that to your idiot Social Studies teacher.
Pay attention. The constitution says the militia must be regulated. That means that firearms must also be regulated, and limited to members of a well regulated militia in preparing for battle.
I spoke to my social studies teacher. I won't tell you where she said to stick your gun.

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#79 Mar 24, 2013
Say the Truth wrote:
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What state do you live in, Lar, besides Fantasy Island?
De plane! De plane!

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#80 Mar 24, 2013
Say the Truth wrote:
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My "alleged" rights? Are you SERIOUS?
BTW, I didn't say anything about rights. But since you brought it up, go read the Patriot Act and the NDAA. Oh, and so-called "forfeiting" of property based upon mere suspicion. TSA, anyone?
You are probably right about not being able to defend onself individually against the feds, especially since they have REAL assault weapons at their disposal and 1.6 bilion rounds of ammo for them.
But an armed citizenry gives those in power pause when considering depriving people of their rights on a mass basis.
Zany stuff. Your imagination creates a world of chaos, and then convinces you that you live in it.
Cat74

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#81 Mar 24, 2013
It isn't gun owners that are paranoid about their law abiding neighbors having guns. Since when is it any of your business what is in someone else's house? Who the hell are you? I know every Democrat thinks they are nanny Bloomberg. Makes us wish for the Democrats of old, like John Kenndy,

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#86 Mar 24, 2013
Say the Truth wrote:
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Go ask you English teacher what "regulated" meant in 1789.
Go ask you Law Prof what the Heller Decision said.
"Well regulated" used to mean in proper working order, pretty much as it does today. Being well regulated requires a regulator or coordinator. It does not mean every lunatic for himself.
Say the Truth

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#89 Mar 24, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>"Well regulated" used to mean in proper working order, pretty much as it does today. Being well regulated requires a regulator or coordinator. It does not mean every lunatic for himself.
EAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!

Wrong; it means disciplined and prepared. And preparation includes ready access to armamanets. By the PEOPLE. In context, it means that a citizen (the people) has a RIGHT, not a grant, not permission, not an okey-dokey, to OWN and BEAR [fire]arms. PERIOD. There was no "expiration date" or conditions attached. There was no "regulation" in the parlance of the Left. No amount of leftist creative reading comprehension can change the meaning of those words. It was #2 in the list of enumenrated RIGHTS for a reason.

The 2nd Amendment expressly says the government SHALL NOT infringe on the RIGHT. PERIOD.
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#90 Mar 24, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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It is a disease
As the great Dr Savage says, it's a MENTAL DISORDER!

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#91 Mar 24, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>I would, of course!
More seriously, how were the framers chosen then? I would imagine a similar approach could be used. I realize it would have to be either bi-partisan, or non-partisan.
As to re-inventing the wheel, you and I seem to be far apart. I believe the wheel has a few spokes loose, which need fixing or replacing. Again, I think if the framers were alive today, they would agree.
Al Sharpton and Dianne Feinstein would work too. If the framers were alive today they would likely say WTF is the matter with you people, what happened to love of country, morals, honor and personal responsibility.

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