People do not need assault weapons: defense secretary

Jan 17, 2013 Full story: Reuters 4,995

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta joined the gun control debate on Thursday when he told troops at a military base in Italy that only soldiers needed armor-piercing bullets or assault weapons.

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#2313 Feb 8, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
As the saying goes....the easiest way to enslave a people is to disarm them. Germany didn't disarm the Jews in one fell swoop.
They didn't need to disarm them, dumbfugg. Jews didn't have guns and the people who wanted to make sure they didn't were all CHRISTIAN RIGHT WING WHITE GUYS.

Like you, dumbfugg.

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#2314 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Tell us about the black UN hellycopters, PA!
They traded them in for drones.

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#2315 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Still waiting for the correction, Au Dumbo:
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Correct away puffer. The ball in your court.....errrr mouth as they say.

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#2316 Feb 8, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<First by a full registration of all firearms in the hands of civilians. Then banning certain types. Then an all out prohibition of civilian arms.
You are a m/f c/s d/s liar.

But we knew that already.

The German laws RELAXED provisions of previous laws, and the earlier laws were put in because the Allies REQUIRED it as party of the Versailles treaty.

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#2317 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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They didn't need to disarm them, dumbfugg. Jews didn't have guns and the people who wanted to make sure they didn't were all CHRISTIAN RIGHT WING WHITE GUYS.
Like you, dumbfugg.
Six million Jews murdered by the Third Reich, and you are making the claim that not one of them owned firearms before they were confiscated by the Nazis?????

You truly are dumber than a bag of hammers.
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#2318 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Tell us about the black UN hellycopters, PA!
So you've got nothing and are forced to use ridicule to avoid admitting you're wrong.

Typical Progressive forum debate tactic to derail any argument they are losing (and boy, that's a LOT!!).

Did the list they gave you include any other standard tactics to avoid an honest debate at all costs?

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#2319 Feb 8, 2013
inbred Genius wrote:
w
You, Barefoot and Mykro should set up some kind of menage a trois,
Sounds like something you do over your lunch break, spoogebreath, with you being the pivot man.

Wipe your chin, you're still dripping.

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#2321 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You are a m/f c/s d/s liar.
But we knew that already.
The German laws RELAXED provisions of previous laws, and the earlier laws were put in because the Allies REQUIRED it as party of the Versailles treaty.
"Until 1943-44, the German government published its laws and regulations in the 'Reichsgesetzblatt,' roughly the equivalent of the U.S. Federal Register. Carefully shelved by law librarians, the 1938 issues of this German government publication had gathered a lot of dust. In the 'Reichsgesetzblatt' issue for the week of March 21, 1938, was the official text of the Weapons Law (March 18, 1938). It gave Hitler's Nazi party a stranglehold on the Germans, many of whom did not support the Nazis. We found that the Nazis did not invent "gun control" in Germany. The Nazis inherited gun control and then perfected it: they invented handgun control.

The Nazi Weapons Law of 1938 replaced a Law on Firearms and Ammunition of April 13, 1928. The 1928 law was enacted by a center-right, freely elected German government that wanted to curb "gang activity," violent street fights between Nazi party and Communist party thugs. All firearm owners and their firearms had to be registered. Sound familiar? "Gun control" did not save democracy in Germany. It helped to make sure that the toughest criminals, the Nazis, prevailed.

The Nazis inherited lists of firearm owners and their firearms when they 'lawfully' took over in March 1933. The Nazis used these inherited registration lists to seize privately held firearms from persons who were not "reliable." Knowing exactly who owned which firearms, the Nazis had only to revoke the annual ownership permits or decline to renew them.

In 1938, five years after taking power, the Nazis enhanced the 1928 law. The Nazi Weapons Law introduced handgun control. Firearms ownership was restricted to Nazi party members and other "reliable" people.

The 1938 Nazi law barred Jews from businesses involving firearms. On November 10. 1938 -- one day after the Nazi party terror squads (the SS) savaged thousands of Jews, synagogues and Jewish businesses throughout Germany -- new regulations under the Weapons Law specifically barred Jews from owning any weapons, even clubs or knives." -- http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/GCA_68.htm
Rebel Against Tyranny

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#2322 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You are a m/f c/s d/s liar.
But we knew that already.
The German laws RELAXED provisions of previous laws, and the earlier laws were put in because the Allies REQUIRED it as party of the Versailles treaty.
German laws passed by Hitler's government relaxed gun laws for Nazi Party members in good standing, but forbid guns for Jews and non-Party members.

I'm sitting here looking at an actual WW2 Nazi government poster that was put up throughout Germany explaining the change in the gun laws to the German public that my father snagged and brought home from WW2 that says you're a liar.

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#2323 Feb 8, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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"Until 1943-44, the German government published its laws
Relaxed gun registrations.

Except for the Jews.

Who didn't have guns... anyway.

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#2324 Feb 8, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
We found that the Nazis did not invent "gun control" in Germany. The Nazis inherited gun control and then perfected it: they invented handgun control.
Hand guns were 'controlled' by law before NAZIs were in power.

Of course, I am using actual facts.

Since Germany had gun control (putting aside Germans did not have constitutional rights to ANY firearms in 1919) before they had NAZIs and the gun control act in 1928 regulated hand guns... of course, that would be based on facts in this universe... and gun laws were *relaxed* in 1938 except for the Jews... who did not have guns except in the minds of the gun gnutters in America who want you to believe if they had, things would have turned out differently.

Sounds like a screenplay.

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#2325 Feb 8, 2013
Rebel Against Tyranny wrote:
I'm sitting here looking at an actual WW2 Nazi government poster that was put up throughout Germany explaining the change in the gun laws to the German public that my father snagged and brought home from WW2 that says you're a liar.
Of course you do, if only you could prove it with actual facts like I have posted that prove whenever you open your mouth, lies and spooge dribble out.

The 1938 regulations were- if anything else- the opposite of gun control, deregulating the possession, sales, and transfer of firearms.

Except for the Jews, if only they had had weapons, right?
Rebel Against Tyranny

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#2326 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Relaxed gun registrations.
Except for the Jews.
Who didn't have guns... anyway.
Wrong.

According to the WW2 Nazi public information/notice bill/poster in my hands that I'm looking at, every gun had to be registered, but some sub-groups of people were not allowed to register or possess guns (Jews/undesirables/non-Party). All had to show why they needed to own a gun. Jews up to that time had guns in about the same numbers per-capita as the rest of the German public in general.

You're not entitled to your own twisted version of history or facts.

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#2327 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You are a m/f c/s d/s liar.
But we knew that already.
The German laws RELAXED provisions of previous laws, and the earlier laws were put in because the Allies REQUIRED it as party of the Versailles treaty.
You are really struggling to be relevent. T'ain't working pookie.

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#2328 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Hand guns were 'controlled' by law before NAZIs were in power.
Of course, I am using actual facts.
Since Germany had gun control (putting aside Germans did not have constitutional rights to ANY firearms in 1919) before they had NAZIs and the gun control act in 1928 regulated hand guns... of course, that would be based on facts in this universe... and gun laws were *relaxed* in 1938 except for the Jews... who did not have guns except in the minds of the gun gnutters in America who want you to believe if they had, things would have turned out differently.
Sounds like a screenplay.
Yep...a screenplay made up entirely in your very smallish brain. I challenge you to post ANY proof you can find that states that Jews didn't own any firearms prior to the Nazi's forbidding them to do so. And it didn't say that it was just the Jews who could not own firearms. It was anyone whom the Nazi's determined were "unreliable". And who would that be to the Nazi's???? Anyone who was NOT a Nazi or their ally. Seriously...where do you come up with this shit, simpleton??

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#2329 Feb 8, 2013
EASY MONEY wrote:
Americans need and require assualt weapons as long as that half-breed liberal socialist phony is in the White House. Never in history has America looked so bad, weak and helpless as it does today.
Things may look bad but we will be here for all fifteen rounds , boxing or bullets.

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#2330 Feb 8, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Yep...a screenplay made up entirely in your very smallish brain. I challenge you to post ANY proof you can find that states that Jews didn't own any firearms prior to the Nazi's forbidding them to do so. And it didn't say that it was just the Jews who could not own firearms. It was anyone whom the Nazi's determined were "unreliable". And who would that be to the Nazi's???? Anyone who was NOT a Nazi or their ally. Seriously...where do you come up with this shit, simpleton??
100 percent correct.

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#2331 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Hand guns were 'controlled' by law before NAZIs were in power.
Of course, I am using actual facts.
Since Germany had gun control (putting aside Germans did not have constitutional rights to ANY firearms in 1919) before they had NAZIs and the gun control act in 1928 regulated hand guns... of course, that would be based on facts in this universe... and gun laws were *relaxed* in 1938 except for the Jews... who did not have guns except in the minds of the gun gnutters in America who want you to believe if they had, things would have turned out differently.
Sounds like a screenplay.
Your delusional.

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#2332 Feb 8, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>You are really struggling to be relevent. T'ain't working pookie.
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

You're still crying about Herman Cain not getting nominated!

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Poor Dumbo!

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#2333 Feb 8, 2013
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>Your delusional.
"your" stuck pulling my boot out of your azz.

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