Guns, mental health poison pill: Obam...

Guns, mental health poison pill: Obamacare

There are 121 comments on the Politico story from Jan 17, 2013, titled Guns, mental health poison pill: Obamacare. In it, Politico reports that:

Here's one thing President Barack Obama and Republicans actually agree on: Mental health has to be a big part of the gun violence debate in Obama's second term - because people with serious mental illness shouldn't have guns.

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Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#22 Jan 18, 2013
They say most of these people who go onto social security disability or onto SSI say they are nuts in order to get onto disability. So if all of these people have gone and paid psychiatrists and lawyers to lie that they are nuts in order to get SS benefits, does that mean that the whole lot of them won't be allowed to buy guns? If they say they can't ever work because they have brain injuries or all of these different mental illnesses, will the government refuse to give them guns? 7 million more people went onto disability since Obama has been in office, most of them for mental problems. So if the government did a check on them, if the gov. finds out they are on permanent disability for psychiatric problems, will they be allowed to buy guns? The point is it is a slippery slope here. On the one hand all these people lie that they have mental problems to get gov. money, but on the other hand I doubt they want to be denied the ability to buy a gun. How many men who hunt down in the deep south live on SSI and claim to be full blown head cases in order to get SSI?
Cat74

United States

#24 Jan 18, 2013
These maniac shooters, and the shooters in the killing fields of Chicago have somethig else in common. They come from homes where there is no father present. We don't want to address that problem. We created a segment of society that has no direction, no semblence of civility, and then we wonder why they act insane. They aren't civilized, but we want to pretend there is nothing wrong with them.

“or Fox News”

Since: Jan 08

Vicksburg, MI

#25 Jan 18, 2013
American Lady wrote:
Beyond coincidence: Pieces of the puzzle rapidly coming together
Sure, a car crash involving John Noveske could be a coincidence. It could also be a coincidence that no video footage has been released from Sandy Hook showing Adam Lanza carrying any rifle whatsoever.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_John_Novesk...
Could also be a coincidence that you are a loony.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#26 Jan 18, 2013
Wait until they start doing background checks on both SS disability claims and on VA post-traumatic stress disability claims. All of those people would be considered mentally ill and not allowed to buy a gun. What about all of the people on anti-depresants and diagnosed as being bipolar, and, since one out of 90 kids today is born autistic, will their parents be allowed to own guns since the kids live with them all of their lives?
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#27 Jan 18, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
These maniac shooters, and the shooters in the killing fields of Chicago have somethig else in common. They come from homes where there is no father present. We don't want to address that problem. We created a segment of society that has no direction, no semblence of civility, and then we wonder why they act insane. They aren't civilized, but we want to pretend there is nothing wrong with them.
Those three shooters are all white guys. they are not from inner city projects. the last one's mother was a school teacher, middle class people and the mother was divorced. It has nothing to do with the parents being divorced. They put the three pictures up on the TV yesterday and the three of them look like the three stooges, they look totally insane, wild eyes, out of their minds.
conservative crapola

Zionhill, PA

#28 Jan 18, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>
definition of double-dealer: liejimbo.

hahahahahahahahahaha
Cat74

United States

#29 Jan 18, 2013
A killer is a killer whether his mommy is a teacher, or a street walker. They will kill with guns, knives, ball bats, whatever the can find. One of the common denominators seems to be they are from fatherless homes. We don't want to look at the pattern.
CBOW

Abbottstown, PA

#30 Jan 18, 2013
Pamela wrote:
They say most of these people who go onto social security disability or onto SSI say they are nuts in order to get onto disability. So if all of these people have gone and paid psychiatrists and lawyers to lie that they are nuts in order to get SS benefits, does that mean that the whole lot of them won't be allowed to buy guns? If they say they can't ever work because they have brain injuries or all of these different mental illnesses, will the government refuse to give them guns? 7 million more people went onto disability since Obama has been in office, most of them for mental problems. So if the government did a check on them, if the gov. finds out they are on permanent disability for psychiatric problems, will they be allowed to buy guns? The point is it is a slippery slope here. On the one hand all these people lie that they have mental problems to get gov. money, but on the other hand I doubt they want to be denied the ability to buy a gun. How many men who hunt down in the deep south live on SSI and claim to be full blown head cases in order to get SSI?
Imagine how many valid gun owners "shot themselves in the foot" grasping for Odumbo's free money through SSI? An agenda, wouldn't you say?
CBOW

Abbottstown, PA

#31 Jan 18, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
These maniac shooters, and the shooters in the killing fields of Chicago have somethig else in common. They come from homes where there is no father present. We don't want to address that problem. We created a segment of society that has no direction, no semblence of civility, and then we wonder why they act insane. They aren't civilized, but we want to pretend there is nothing wrong with them.
Exactly, their mothers and their mother's mothers were paid government money(tax dollars) to breed like rats.......More of that libtard agenda.

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#32 Jan 18, 2013
If you are for guns in every gang, push one for
Spanish, 2 for Ebonics.
conservative crapola

Allentown, PA

#33 Jan 18, 2013
au contraire wrote:
teapussy still pouting? It's in your DNA.

hahahahahahahaha
Cat74

United States

#34 Jan 18, 2013
But those 3 shooters also came from homes without fathers. Not all children without fathes become killers, but so far all the maniac shooters came from homes without fathers.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#35 Jan 18, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
But those 3 shooters also came from homes without fathers.
Timothy McVeigh had a father.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#36 Jan 18, 2013
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>Those three shooters are all white guys. they are not from inner city projects. the last one's mother was a school teacher, middle class people and the mother was divorced. It has nothing to do with the parents being divorced. They put the three pictures up on the TV yesterday and the three of them look like the three stooges, they look totally insane, wild eyes, out of their minds.
Yep, they look just like the average teabagger that forgot his dose of Thorazine.
WallStreetTruth

Rochester, MN

#37 Jan 18, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
These maniac shooters, and the shooters in the killing fields of Chicago have somethig else in common. They come from homes where there is no father present. We don't want to address that problem. We created a segment of society that has no direction, no semblence of civility, and then we wonder why they act insane. They aren't civilized, but we want to pretend there is nothing wrong with them.
dont worry

The Democrats won't even talk about banning assault rifles because they know the NRA and we the people will throw their ass's out in the midterms
WallStreetTruth

Rochester, MN

#38 Jan 18, 2013
Laws don't stop shooting sprees
Cat74

United States

#39 Jan 18, 2013
No, Timothy McVeigh did not have a father in the home. He lived with his mommy. There is ample information available on all these mentally challenged people. We don't want to take them off the street, because they vote!! And guess who they vote? For the people who protect them. The Democrats.
WallStreetTruth

Rochester, MN

#40 Jan 18, 2013
Timothy McVeigh was raised in a foster home by liberal step parents

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#41 Jan 18, 2013
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
President Obama presented a complete package for new gun safety legislation...
Obama is frickin awesome. To end violence with a few mere executive orders. Wow, no wonder he 'won' the Nobel Peace Prize.
mea

United States

#42 Jan 18, 2013
So this lady in CT purchased guns...six of them
in Walmart...passed the background checks.
Lo, and behold, her son takes them, shoot her
and then a whole bunch of other people.
If there would have been mental illness background
done on the mom...she would have passed.
There was NOTHING that would pop up a red flag on
this violent shooter.
BUT...we can make all of this stop.
It is called social taboo. Even mentally ill
people will be halted if something is taboo.
If sane people would only respect life...and
that means end legal killing ---calling legal
killing what it is and CHANGE what is viewed
as acceptable....then killings would only happen
by accident.
The reason we never had all this in the past was because killing ---all killing----was taboo! DAH

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