Area gun sales, fears rising

Area gun sales, fears rising

There are 7566 comments on the North Port Sun story from Nov 14, 2012, titled Area gun sales, fears rising. In it, North Port Sun reports that:

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#6890 May 26, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
The "well regulated Militia" of 1789 was indeed well regulated by the government.
If you want to call describing the arms the volunteers were to PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES "well regulated", fine.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#6891 May 26, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
looks like Hand Gun sales in Illinois will be going up now
Looks like more family members will be killed by gun gnutters buying more guns saying it was for protection....

People who knew Mark Tarto struggled to understand Friday why he would kill his child, Matthew, 16, and then himself in the rented River Ridge home they shared, just blocks from where the teenager was a student athlete at John Curtis Christian School. Their bodies were found Friday morning in the Celeste Avenue home, after the teen's mother called authorities because she hadn't heard from her son.

Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office detectives suspect that Mark Tarto shot Matthew Tarto in the head in recent days and turned the gun on himself more recently. Detectives are investigating the deaths as a murder-suicide, said Sheriff's Office spokesman Col. John Fortunato.

Matthew Tarto was a backup offensive lineman on the John Curtis' 2012 Class 2A state championship football team, according to John Curtis football coach J.T. Curtis.

"This kind of thing is unbelievable, that something like this could happen," Curtis said. "The only way we know to get through this is through deep prayer. I just feel so heartbroken, not only for his family but for the kids, his friends and teammates."

Matthew Tarto's mother Lisa, who is Mark Tarto's ex-wife, called 911 on Friday just after 11 a.m., asking the Sheriff's Office to check on her son because she had not heard from him in quite some time, Fortunato said.

Matthew Tarto had been absent from school for several days, and Curtis said school officials called his home on Friday morning to check on him, but got no answer.

Deputies entered the home at 335 Celeste Ave., at Lucy Court, through the unlocked front door and found Mark Tarto's body on the living room floor, with an apparent gunshot wound to his head, Fortunato said. A semiautomatic pistol lay next to his body, he said.

The deputies searched the home and found Matthew Tarto's body in his bedroom, Fortunato said. Jefferson Parish coroner's office investigators determined the teen also was shot in the head. "It appears that the young man had been dead for more than a day," Fortunato said.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#6892 May 26, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Looks like more family members will be killed by gun gnutters buying more guns saying it was for protection....
People who knew Mark Tarto struggled to understand Friday why he would kill his child, Matthew, 16, and then himself in the rented River Ridge home they shared, just blocks from where the teenager was a student athlete at John Curtis Christian School. Their bodies were found Friday morning in the Celeste Avenue home, after the teen's mother called authorities because she hadn't heard from her son.
Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office detectives suspect that Mark Tarto shot Matthew Tarto in the head in recent days and turned the gun on himself more recently. Detectives are investigating the deaths as a murder-suicide, said Sheriff's Office spokesman Col. John Fortunato.
Matthew Tarto was a backup offensive lineman on the John Curtis' 2012 Class 2A state championship football team, according to John Curtis football coach J.T. Curtis.
"This kind of thing is unbelievable, that something like this could happen," Curtis said. "The only way we know to get through this is through deep prayer. I just feel so heartbroken, not only for his family but for the kids, his friends and teammates."
Matthew Tarto's mother Lisa, who is Mark Tarto's ex-wife, called 911 on Friday just after 11 a.m., asking the Sheriff's Office to check on her son because she had not heard from him in quite some time, Fortunato said.
Matthew Tarto had been absent from school for several days, and Curtis said school officials called his home on Friday morning to check on him, but got no answer.
Deputies entered the home at 335 Celeste Ave., at Lucy Court, through the unlocked front door and found Mark Tarto's body on the living room floor, with an apparent gunshot wound to his head, Fortunato said. A semiautomatic pistol lay next to his body, he said.
The deputies searched the home and found Matthew Tarto's body in his bedroom, Fortunato said. Jefferson Parish coroner's office investigators determined the teen also was shot in the head. "It appears that the young man had been dead for more than a day," Fortunato said.
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Right here is the reason why People in Chicago Illinois need to be able to CCW protection for themselves especially from the Gangs & the corrupt Chicago Police who are working hand and hand together and another example of a corrupt police state.

Ex-Chicago police officer sentenced in Latin Kings case

May 24, 2013 (CHICAGO)-- A former Chicago police officer has been sentenced to 12 years in federal prison for his role in armed robberies of drug dealers for the Latin Kings street gang in northwestern Indiana and Chicago.

The judge could have sentenced Antonio Martinez Jr., 42, to life in prison, but agreed Thursday to the shorter term because of Martinez' cooperation with investigators.

Authorities said Martinez helped in the prosecution of others involved in the gang, including fellow former Chicago officer Alex Guerrero, who is serving a 19-year sentence for armed robbery, The Times of Munster and the Post-Tribune of Merrillville reported.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story...

Latin Kings (gang)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Kings_ (gang)
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6893 May 26, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
looks like Hand Gun sales in Illinois will be going up now and the Pseudo Liberals Democrats and Criminals in Chicago will have something to worry about now.
Illinois House Votes to End Concealed-Carry Ban
By Darren McRoy, May 25, 2013
A law that would end Illinois' status as the last state in the nation without concealed-carry provisions passed the House with enough votes to override a likely veto.
http://wheaton.patch.com/articles/illinois-ho...
They didn't have much of a choice. They were ordered by a federal court to remove that ban.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6894 May 26, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
The "well regulated Militia" of 1789 was indeed well regulated by the government.
The militia was, but not their firearms.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6895 May 26, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
10 Senators and 66 Congressmen, all Democrats, voted against the pat act!
How did they vote when DumBama wanted to rescind the law? Oh, that's right, he never tried to rescind the law.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#6896 May 26, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
They didn't have much of a choice. They were ordered by a federal court to remove that ban.
True which is because of SCOTUS case of McDonald v Chicago(2010) which Illinois and Chicago have been resisting ever since the decision was handed down and have no choice but it is something how the Pseudo Liberal Democrats or Leninist in Illinois and Chicago don't want adhere to the US Constitution.

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#6897 May 26, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like more family members will be killed by gun gnutters buying more guns saying it was for protection....
People who knew Mark Tarto struggled to understand Friday why he would kill his child, Matthew, 16, and then himself in the rented River Ridge home they shared, just blocks from where the teenager was a student athlete at John Curtis Christian School. Their bodies were found Friday morning in the Celeste Avenue home, after the teen's mother called authorities because she hadn't heard from her son.
Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office detectives suspect that Mark Tarto shot Matthew Tarto in the head in recent days and turned the gun on himself more recently. Detectives are investigating the deaths as a murder-suicide, said Sheriff's Office spokesman Col. John Fortunato.
Matthew Tarto was a backup offensive lineman on the John Curtis' 2012 Class 2A state championship football team, according to John Curtis football coach J.T. Curtis.
"This kind of thing is unbelievable, that something like this could happen," Curtis said. "The only way we know to get through this is through deep prayer. I just feel so heartbroken, not only for his family but for the kids, his friends and teammates."
Matthew Tarto's mother Lisa, who is Mark Tarto's ex-wife, called 911 on Friday just after 11 a.m., asking the Sheriff's Office to check on her son because she had not heard from him in quite some time, Fortunato said.
Matthew Tarto had been absent from school for several days, and Curtis said school officials called his home on Friday morning to check on him, but got no answer.
Deputies entered the home at 335 Celeste Ave., at Lucy Court, through the unlocked front door and found Mark Tarto's body on the living room floor, with an apparent gunshot wound to his head, Fortunato said. A semiautomatic pistol lay next to his body, he said.
The deputies searched the home and found Matthew Tarto's body in his bedroom, Fortunato said. Jefferson Parish coroner's office investigators determined the teen also was shot in the head. "It appears that the young man had been dead for more than a day," Fortunato said.
No, more like it appears that demonRat criminals won't be able to get away with their crimes any more. That's what you freaks are REALLY worried about, ISN'T IT? For only tyrants and criminals prefer an unarmed people.

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#6898 May 26, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
The "well regulated Militia" of 1789 was indeed well regulated by the government.
"Mr. MADISON thought the regulation of the militia naturally appertaining to the authority charged with the public defence...."

- August 18.(1787), The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution [Elliot's Debates, Vol. 5]

The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution [Elliot's Debates, Volume 5]
Thursday, August 23.(1787).

"...In Convention.-- The report of the committee of eleven, made the 21st of August, being taken up, and the following clause being under consideration, to wit:--

"To make laws for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such parts of them as may be employed in the service of the United States; reserving to the states, respectively, the appointment of the officers, and authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed," --

Mr. SHERMAN moved to strike out the last member, "and authority of training," &c. He thought it unnecessary. The states will have this authority, of course, if not given up.

Mr. ELLSWORTH doubted the propriety of striking out the sentence. The reason assigned applies as well to the other reservation, of the appointment to offices. He remarked, at the same time, that the term "discipline," was of vast extent, and might be so expounded as to include all power on the subject.

Mr. KING, by way of explanation, said, that by organizing, the committee meant, proportioning the officers and men -- by arming, specifying the kind, size, and calibre of arms -- and by disciplining, prescribing the manual exercise, evolutions, &c.

Mr. SHERMAN withdrew his motion...."

Did you see what Mr. Sherman did? How about you do the same - WITHDRAW?

Good-bye, traitor-troll.

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#6899 May 26, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
The "well regulated Militia" of 1789 was indeed well regulated by the government.
"Each officer and private of the dragoons, to provide himself with a horse, saddle, etc., pistols and sabre; and each non-commissioned officer and private, with a carbine and cartouch-box, with twelve rounds for his carbine and six rounds for each pistol."

- Alexander Hamilton, The Works of Alexander Hamilton, ed. Henry Cabot Lodge (Federal Edition)(New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904). In 12 vols. Vol. 6.

"Whereas civil-rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."

- Tenche Coxe,'Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution' using the Pseudonym "A Pennsylvanian" in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 at 2 col. 1.

Go away, traitor-troll.

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#6900 May 26, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, more like it appears that demonRat criminals won't be able to get away with their crimes any more. That's what you freaks are REALLY worried about, ISN'T IT? For only tyrants and criminals prefer aisn unarmed people.
Tell me this where do criminals get their weapons? Do they manufacture their own, OR do they buy them from other bad guys and, or >good guys<.

Some complain "only the bad criminals will have guns" with extended background checks and good records we will know where they get those guns!

Or do some good guys care not who they sell those guns to, as long as the money is good!

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#6901 May 26, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Tell me this where do criminals get their weapons? Do they manufacture their own, OR do they buy them from other bad guys and, or >good guys<.
Some complain "only the bad criminals will have guns" with extended background checks and good records we will know where they get those guns!
Or do some good guys care not who they sell those guns to, as long as the money is good!
Criminals generally STEAL their weapons. And the current background check system [UNCONSTITUTIONALLY] tracks ALL sales of FFL dealers. Those records are REQUIRED to be retained by the FFL dealer for TWENTY YEARS. And the B.A.T.F. can come and view those 4473 forms at ANY TIME. And the 4473 has a FULL DESCRIPTION of the firearm; Make, Model, Caliber, and Serial number.
gurswate

Pittsburgh, PA

#6902 May 27, 2013
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Guns are Harmlesss ban humans
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6903 May 27, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Tell me this where do criminals get their weapons? Do they manufacture their own, OR do they buy them from other bad guys and, or >good guys<.
Some complain "only the bad criminals will have guns" with extended background checks and good records we will know where they get those guns!
Or do some good guys care not who they sell those guns to, as long as the money is good!
Actually it's a combination of all those things. But most criminals don't want traceable guns. They want guns that have a dead end history. So they buy stolen guns off of the street in most cases. The cops find the gun, the gun was reported stolen a year and a half ago, and there is nothing but fingerprints (if any) that help the police find the shooter.

Recreational narcotics have been illegal my entire life. But we have a huge drug problem in this country; so to the point we have the highest percentage of our population locked up in prison compared to any other civilized country in the world.

Gun bans won't and can't work for the bad guy. Gun bans only disarm law abiding citizens.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6904 May 27, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>True which is because of SCOTUS case of McDonald v Chicago(2010) which Illinois and Chicago have been resisting ever since the decision was handed down and have no choice but it is something how the Pseudo Liberal Democrats or Leninist in Illinois and Chicago don't want adhere to the US Constitution.
Unfortunately, just because the courts say they have to have a CCW program doesn't mean they have to make it easy as it is in many states. Look what's going on in NYC. Sure, somebody might take them to court over idiocy like limited rounds in a magazine, but it's a fight to the very end until citizens support politicians who stand behind having a sound carry program.

Hell, ten years ago here in Ohio, we would have never dreamt our gun laws would be so lenient in the future. But politicians took note of where their bread is buttered, so they all jumped on the gun bandwagon. We recently passed a law that allows us to carry in places where alcohol is served and arenas like Progressive Field. Mind you, you still can't touch a drop of alcohol while carrying, but it allows you to dine in restaurants like Applebee's. Anti-gun nuts and the cops went crazy over the passage of the law, but those people do not make up the majority of voters.

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#6905 May 27, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Criminals generally STEAL their weapons. And the current background check system [UNCONSTITUTIONALLY] tracks ALL sales of FFL dealers. Those records are REQUIRED to be retained by the FFL dealer for TWENTY YEARS. And the B.A.T.F. can come and view those 4473 forms at ANY TIME. And the 4473 has a FULL DESCRIPTION of the firearm; Make, Model, Caliber, and Serial number.
So "GENERALLY" {ha} those guns that are not stolen and sold by "GOOD GUYS" {ha} to bad guys have a legal and moral right to sell those guns with no consequences?

Profit over dead and wounded, including tens of thousands of children? HUH?{ha}

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#6906 May 27, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually it's a combination of all those things. But most criminals don't want traceable guns. They want guns that have a dead end history. So they buy stolen guns off of the street in most cases. The cops find the gun, the gun was reported stolen a year and a half ago, and there is nothing but fingerprints (if any) that help the police find the shooter.
Recreational narcotics have been illegal my entire life. But we have a huge drug problem in this country; so to the point we have the highest percentage of our population locked up in prison compared to any other civilized country in the world.
Gun bans won't and can't work for the bad guy. Gun bans only disarm law abiding citizens.
So are you against extended background checks? You did state that "criminals don't want tracable guns".

If you are against these checks, what is your reasons?

This is a little far out here, but if it saved one innocent childs life would you agree with extended gun purchasing checks?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6907 May 27, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>So are you against extended background checks? You did state that "criminals don't want tracable guns".
If you are against these checks, what is your reasons?
This is a little far out here, but if it saved one innocent childs life would you agree with extended gun purchasing checks?
When somebody can prove to me that background checks will stop all the murders in this country, I'm on board. Half the murders in this country, I'm on board. 25% of the murders in this country..........

The background check system we have now doesn't work. Why expand that? Very few people are prosecuted for trying to purchase a legal firearm, so we don't enforce the laws we already have. Plus nothing will stop straw purchasers from buying guns for the bad guys.

I have purchased gun and had a background check so I can buy any gun I want. That's fine until somebody breaks into my house to steal them, then the background check was entirely useless. You still end up with the same problems.
Brad

Manchester, CT

#6908 May 27, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
When somebody can prove to me that background checks will stop all the murders in this country, I'm on board. Half the murders in this country, I'm on board. 25% of the murders in this country..........
The background check system we have now doesn't work. Why expand that? Very few people are prosecuted for trying to purchase a legal firearm, so we don't enforce the laws we already have. Plus nothing will stop straw purchasers from buying guns for the bad guys.
I have purchased gun and had a background check so I can buy any gun I want. That's fine until somebody breaks into my house to steal them, then the background check was entirely useless. You still end up with the same problems.
Yep.
There will never be any confidence unless an honest effort to take guns out of the hands of violent criminals is mounted and the rights of law abiding citizens are protected.
Law enforcement has sadly become an extension of the corrupt system that guards the hen house.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6909 May 27, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep.
There will never be any confidence unless an honest effort to take guns out of the hands of violent criminals is mounted and the rights of law abiding citizens are protected.
Law enforcement has sadly become an extension of the corrupt system that guards the hen house.
They figure if you take all the guns away from all people, the criminal will have no way to get guns. It's ridiculous.

In our state, carrying a gun illegally will get you less than one year in prison. The prisons are so full that judges resist sending people to jail for offenses like carrying a gun. So why not carry a gun?

It's the same way in many states I'm sure. Make it a ten year prison sentence, then you might see some results.

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