Area gun sales, fears rising

Area gun sales, fears rising

There are 7566 comments on the North Port Sun story from Nov 14, 2012, titled Area gun sales, fears rising. In it, North Port Sun reports that:

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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pedro

United States

#4564 Feb 8, 2013
average time for police to arrive 23 minutes

average time for a 357 is 1400 FPS

which one would you rely on?

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Puerto Vallarta, Mexico

#4565 Feb 8, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
BURNED !!!
LOL
These morons have to be some of the dumbest people on the planet......

Morons that say a body proves a crime..........

Morons that claim the burden of proof falls on the defense.......
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4566 Feb 8, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
What friggne moronic rant, at least you are well versed with wingnuz talking points! Stop it with the mega stupid talking points or do you honestly think lower taxes for the super wealthy is fair or even logical? People who make their money in wages (paychecks) pay taxes at a higher rate, while those who get most of their income from investments pay at lower rates or nothing at all. Remember, there is a big difference between “wealth” and “income”! The wealthiest 1% of families, in this country, owns over 35% of the nation's net worth, the top 10% of families owns over 75%, and the bottom 40% of the population owns less than 1%. Please, all you wing-nuts, pull your heads out of your collective rectum.
What I think is that everybody should pay the same percentage of taxes. Everybody. That means those making 20 million a year and those making $20,000 per year. One of the reasons we are so in debt is because nobody is feeling the pain. If we had a national consumption tax of 5%, and Commie Care was going to raise that to 7%, you bet your azz nobody would have supported it.

Right now, some cluck like DumBama comes out and yells "Free healthcare for everybody, and it won't cost you a dime!" Sure, people will support it. When you rob Peter to pay Paul, the Paul's of your society generally have no objection.

Liberals look at our country as one giant commune while Republicans look at it the way our founders did; a country where work and investment is rewarded. Those who produce survive. Those who won't chop wood in the summer for fires in the winter freeze to death. Only the fittest survive.

Right now, the lazy live better than many middle-class working people. They eat better, have larger families, have free health care, live in the suburbs, have all the amenities of the working, and sit in front of television all day long doing nothing. Does that sound fair to you?

Years ago when I got my first apartment, I was fascinated with birds. One of the first things I did was hang a bird feeder on my upstairs back porch. After a few months, I met my elderly neighbor, and he taught me something I never forgot.

He said "Ray, what you are doing for the birds with that feeder is nice, but in reality, you may be bringing them more harm. Feeding birds in the winter is a good thing because food is scarce in our hard winters. But if you leave that thing up there all year long, the birds forget how to obtain their own food. If you get board feeding the birds or move to another apartment, those birds you get a thrill out of will die."

This is the way our government is treating it's citizens; like birds. It's time we remove the government bird feeder for the better of our species.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4567 Feb 8, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Right now cons are restricting the right to vote for Americans.
I think we should start at the basic before going to the incrementally more complex.
How are Republicans doing that?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4568 Feb 8, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr brother has a favorite saying: It's not how much you make......it how much you keep.
Exactly. The problem is when Democrats get into office and sneak dollars out of your pocket with few realizing it, they then claim that our problem is money coming in instead of money going out. I guess it's the same way they look at the finances of our country.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4569 Feb 8, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
We should never punish people for what they might do. We punish people that commit acts society deems inappropriate. After the act is committed.
There goes sobriety check points. LOL!
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4570 Feb 8, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>exactly, Mitt Romney is a good example.
There is no hypocrisy with Mitt Romeny or George Bush. They both promoted that the wealthy pay more than their fair share. The hypocrisy comes in with those who cry that taxes on the wealthy need to be increased, and those very same people do whatever they can to escape paying those taxes they preach about.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#4571 Feb 8, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no hypocrisy with Mitt Romeny or George Bush. They both promoted that the wealthy pay more than their fair share. The hypocrisy comes in with those who cry that taxes on the wealthy need to be increased, and those very same people do whatever they can to escape paying those taxes they preach about.
Mitt Romeny and George Bush were Both proven Liberals in the Modern sense and I agree with Bruce Bartlett in his book "Imposter, how George W. Bush Bankrupt America" which George W Bush was another Nixon and even New York Times columnist William Safire(Nixon speechwriter) seen the Parallel between Bush and Nixon.

(Article Excerpt)

In other words, Bush is another Richard Nixon, a comparison that Bartlett spends an entire chapter on.

The first person to draw a parallel between Bush and Nixon was someone who knew Nixon well: then-New York Times columnist William Safire, who had been a speechwriter for Nixon. In a July 2003 column, Safire imagined a conversation with the late president, who spoke approvingly about Bush's strategy of moving left domestically while keeping the Republican base preoccupied with an external threat. Nixon had done this successfully with Vietnam and Bush was doing it with Iraq.

Although the popular perception of Nixon is still that of an archconservative who infuriated liberals, Bartlett reminds us that on domestic policy Nixon routinely caved in to public opinion and betrayed his conservative principles--for example, by creating the EPA, supporting enormous increases in Social Security, and proposing a guaranteed-incomes policy. Likewise, Bush spent nearly his entire first term talking tough but then caving in with barely a whimper to any interest group that might help him win a few more precious votes in 2004. Tariffs were enacted in order to appeal to steelworkers; the Medicare bill was designed to buy the votes of the elderly; and McCain-Feingold was signed in the hope that it would provide a temporary fundraising advantage for the Republican Party. If all of these actions were precisely the opposite of what a real conservative would do, so what? As Nixon might have said, don't you know there's an election coming up?

As far as all this goes, Bartlett's argument is a good one, and the Nixon comparison even provides a neat and underappreciated explanation for why liberals hate Bush so much. After all, it's possible to respect someone with whom you have a principled disagreement, but not so easy to respect someone whose only real principle is to crush anybody who gets in his way.(Bush's alter-ego, Karl Rove, summed up this philosophy within earshot of journalist Ron Suskind when he yelled to an aide about someone who had displeased him, "We will fuck him. Do you hear me? We will fuck him. We will ruin him. Like no one has ever fucked him!") As with Nixon, it's not really Bush's conservatism that gets liberals seething. In fact, it's just the opposite. It's precisely his lack of political principle, combined with a vengeful ruthlessness so dark it's scary, that makes liberals break out in hives.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/200...
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#4572 Feb 8, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
What I think is that everybody should pay the same percentage of taxes. Everybody. That means those making 20 million a year and those making $20,000 per year. One of the reasons we are so in debt is because nobody is feeling the pain. If we had a national consumption tax of 5%, and Commie Care was going to raise that to 7%, you bet your azz nobody would have supported it.
Right now, some cluck like DumBama comes out and yells "Free healthcare for everybody, and it won't cost you a dime!" Sure, people will support it. When you rob Peter to pay Paul, the Paul's of your society generally have no objection.
Liberals look at our country as one giant commune while Republicans look at it the way our founders did; a country where work and investment is rewarded. Those who produce survive. Those who won't chop wood in the summer for fires in the winter freeze to death. Only the fittest survive.
Right now, the lazy live better than many middle-class working people. They eat better, have larger families, have free health care, live in the suburbs, have all the amenities of the working, and sit in front of television all day long doing nothing. Does that sound fair to you?
Years ago when I got my first apartment, I was fascinated with birds. One of the first things I did was hang a bird feeder on my upstairs back porch. After a few months, I met my elderly neighbor, and he taught me something I never forgot.
He said "Ray, what you are doing for the birds with that feeder is nice, but in reality, you may be bringing them more harm. Feeding birds in the winter is a good thing because food is scarce in our hard winters. But if you leave that thing up there all year long, the birds forget how to obtain their own food. If you get board feeding the birds or move to another apartment, those birds you get a thrill out of will die."
This is the way our government is treating it's citizens; like birds. It's time we remove the government bird feeder for the better of our species.
Huh? If you get any more stupid with your rants your inflated head will explode! It's time to put an end to that centuries old scam and tax rich people by what they own not what they make. They may well pay 70% of all federal taxes collected but they also own 90% of what can be owned! Wage earners are in fact paying a higher % of what they have. It stands to reason that “wage-earners” contribute less in federal taxes but they pay on every single $ they make, yet they own nothing or very little. It is the absolute height of perversity for someone who has millions or billions of dollars, insisting they must acquire MORE and pay less . After all, their stake in a secure and healthy country is far greater than that of the rest of us - the rabble!

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#4573 Feb 8, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Try again, it’s people like Feinstein driving gun sales. Have you read the bill she’s attempting to get passed? Obama proclaiming he’ll do something about gun violence followed by 23 executive orders.
Who supports criminals using guns illegally? Who is we? You have an imaginary liberal in your pocket?
Have you really read the bill? Which of the 23 executive orders say, "Turn in your gunz". I am for universal background checks, and any kind of assault weepon regulation I can get. When the last time anybody's use their assault weepon to take out 20 something bad guys,,,,,,yeah I guess I miss that story.

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#4574 Feb 8, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently no chance of you being a victim of a school shooting. You obviously never went. I usually don't give people a hard time about writing errors, but you are a special cases
<quoted text>
You are a loon! Most of the guns sold recently were already produced or in production. Many are imported. People are on waiting lists for more guns to be made. Your steel stocks aren't going to jump right away.
Apparently no chance of you being a victim of a school shooting. You obviously never went,,,You are a loon,,,,,I replied mocking him in a silly little voice,,,yaa,,yaa,yaaa.

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#4575 Feb 8, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet that's not on the top of the list for Democrats. Their belief is that disarming law-biding citizens is the way to go. Instead of focusing on the real problem, just penalize everybody, and eventually, the bad guys will be disarmed. Good luck with that one.
The Democrat approach reminds me of when I was a child in school. A kid would write a nasty thing on the chalkboard while the teacher wasn't around. In order to find the culprit, the teacher threatens all children that they will have to write 500 times on a piece of paper "I will not write nasty things on the chalkboard" if somebody doesn't rat out the kid who caused the problem.
Laws don't work on criminals. That's why they are criminals in the first place. Laws only restrict law-biding citizens.
When the teacher wasn't around,(or no law) should I say, things got out of hand. And like all good Republicans "it's every man (child) for them self, right? You'd expect children to not understand the importance of policing their society, I mean class, in order to keep the freedoms have.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#4576 Feb 9, 2013
rider wrote:
<quoted text>LMFAO! wolf that cried wolf. Republican officials, who have used hysteria about alleged voter fraud as an excuse to support measures that disproportionately block Democratic voters, are furiously trying to distance themselves from a growing number of GOP voter registration drives that either submitted false applications or threw away authentic ones.
The incidents might have been overlooked if not for the GOP's clamorous campaign to restrict registration drives, purge voter rolls, roll back early voting, and pass voter ID laws that opponents point out have the effect of depressing the vote among minorities, the poor and other generally Democratic constituencies.
As one Southern California alt-weekly put it, it's turning into a story of "The Wolf Who Cried Wolf."
The latest drama began to unfold on Oct. 17, when the manager of a Tuesday Morning discount store in Virginia's Shenandoah Valley saw a man throwing a garbage bag into the store's private dumpster. Inside the bag was a file folder containing eight completed Virginia voter registration forms.
The manager described the man to Rockingham County sheriff's deputies, who the following day arrested Colin Small, 23, a voter registration drive contractor for the Virginia GOP -- and charged him with eight felonies and five misdemeanors related to the destruction and disclosure of the applications and obstruction of justice.
Because there’s evidence there’s one committing fraud it’s ok for another? Is that really how you view this?

Voter ID would give poll workers the ability to verify eligibility. Voter fraud could be reduced.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#4577 Feb 9, 2013
rider wrote:
NRA Members Disagree With NRA Leadership: Those On Terrorist Watch List Should Not Be Able To Buy Firearms
A recent Government Accountability Office (GAO) report found that individuals on the federal terrorist watch list were able to purchase firearms and explosives from licensed U.S. dealers 1,119 times. New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I) told the Senate Homeland Security Committee this month that Congress should close this “terror gap” in the nation’s gun laws.“If society decides that these people are too dangerous to get on an airplane with other people, then it’s probably appropriate to look very hard before you let them buy a gun,” he said.
During the hearing, Bloomberg actually encountered some GOP opposition to this seemingly noncontroversial suggestion. Moreover, the NRA strongly objects to closing the “terror gap,” calling legislation dealing with the issue “21st Century McCarthyism.” Bloomberg is “abusing the word ‘terrorist’ to resurrect and pursue a gun-control agenda,” an NRA spokesperson said.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2010/05/15/...
Do you think for a moment ALL NRA members agree with every decision the organization makes? Have you ever attempted to get millions of people to agree on anything?

This is what you leave out. Those on the terrorist watch list passed the federal instant background check if they purchased firearms from licensed dealers.

Just because someone is on a list they should be denied a constitutionally protected right? Do you believe the terrorist watch list is more or less accurate than the no-fly list?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#4578 Feb 9, 2013
justice187 wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you really read the bill? Which of the 23 executive orders say, "Turn in your gunz". I am for universal background checks, and any kind of assault weepon regulation I can get. When the last time anybody's use their assault weepon to take out 20 something bad guys,,,,,,yeah I guess I miss that story.
What part of ban sales do you not understand?

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#4579 Feb 9, 2013
justice187 wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently no chance of you being a victim of a school shooting. You obviously never went,,,You are a loon,,,,,I replied mocking him in a silly little voice,,,yaa,,yaa,yaaa.
Likely story.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#4580 Feb 9, 2013
justice187 wrote:
<quoted text>Have you really read the bill? Which of the 23 executive orders say, "Turn in your gunz". I am for universal background checks, and any kind of assault weepon regulation I can get. When the last time anybody's use their assault weepon to take out 20 something bad guys,,,,,,yeah I guess I miss that story.
Have you read his post? Which of his sentences said anything about Obama's 23 E.O.'s saying to turn in our guns?
Do all liberals have to twist or add meaning to common sense posts to be able to debate or contest them?
It certainly appears so.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4581 Feb 9, 2013
justice187 wrote:
<quoted text>
When the teacher wasn't around,(or no law) should I say, things got out of hand. And like all good Republicans "it's every man (child) for them self, right? You'd expect children to not understand the importance of policing their society, I mean class, in order to keep the freedoms have.
No, the Republicans are all for doing what's needed to prevent school shootings. The Democrats are for using the deaths of these children to promote their political agenda.

Republicans know that most of these mass shootings take place in cities and states where gun laws are strict and in particular, gun free zones. It's reasonable to conclude that crazy shooters are smart enough to carry out their evil plans where there is least or no resistance.

The Democrat plan is to disarm the public of assault weapons and high capacity magazines and HOPE that criminals will not get them. Well..... we've seen how good that worked for us in the war on drugs.

Since we know that getting rid of assault weapons won't stop one mass shooting (because the criminal will opt for a legal weapon) the Democrats are quite happy with a shooter killing 22 students instead of 26. To Democrats, that's a great accomplishment.

The Republican idea is for schools to have armed personnel or armed security. This would give our children better protection without stomping on the Constitutional rights of everybody in the country. However, this is not a national issue. This is a local issue where any city, county or state can implement such protection. This is not the issue of the federal government.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#4582 Feb 9, 2013
justice187 wrote:
<quoted text>When the teacher wasn't around,(or no law) should I say, things got out of hand. And like all good Republicans "it's every man (child) for them self, right? You'd expect children to not understand the importance of policing their society, I mean class, in order to keep the freedoms have.
Leave it to liberals to relate everything to childhood and how a child reacts to a given situation. That explains sooo much! I wondered why liberal debate is so childish. It finally makes sense. It's just more projection because, despite all the babbling about being enlightened and informed, liberals never grew up.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4583 Feb 9, 2013
justice187 wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you really read the bill? Which of the 23 executive orders say, "Turn in your gunz". I am for universal background checks, and any kind of assault weepon regulation I can get. When the last time anybody's use their assault weepon to take out 20 something bad guys,,,,,,yeah I guess I miss that story.
Maybe you did. Her bill restricts citizens to revolver hand guns only which empowers criminals who will continue using semi-automatic guns for their crimes. Now that's real protection for a citizen who's attacked by several people instead of one. Oh, and if you are attacked, you better make sure you don't miss and hit a vital area of your attacker because you won't have many bullets left after those first few shots.

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