Was Jesus Christ Married?

And the companion of the Saviour is Mary Magdalene. But Christ loved her more than all the disciples and used to kiss her often on her mouth, The rest of the disciples were offended by it and expressed ...

[Coolmind]

No, he was gay.

"Misquoting Jesus" by Ehrman

[Hello]

OK, first off if you want to talk about the gnostic gospels, then remember that they were written in the early 100's AD. The four gospels and Paul's letters that are in the Bible today were all written before 62 AD, that's the year that Paul died. Also, the Gospel of Thomas says that Jesus and His disciples were going to Mary and turn her into a man because no woman was worthy to enter heaven unless she became a man. So yeah, tell me again why they were married? Also, why would Jesus get married and have children if he knew that He was going to die at 33 yeras old? That seems pretty messed up. Yeah kids, I'm leaving you and your mom to go and die in a few years. Give me a break. Read The Case for Christ and Evidence that demands a verdict. You will learn a lot that doesn't get circulated in the media because they don't like eating crow when they are prven wrong. And Jesus was not gay you tree hugging hippie, was is inevitable. That's the only way we know what peace is. Get over it.

[DeepThinka]

No. He wasn't married. He didn't exist. Good movie though.

[Rami]

Hello wrote:

OK, first off if you want to talk about the gnostic gospels, then remember that they were written in the early 100's AD. The four gospels and Paul's letters that are in the Bible today were all written before 62 AD, that's the year that Paul died. Also, the Gospel of Thomas says that Jesus and His disciples were going to Mary and turn her into a man because no woman was worthy to enter heaven unless she became a man. So yeah, tell me again why they were married? Also, why would Jesus get married and have children if he knew that He was going to die at 33 yeras old? That seems pretty messed up. Yeah kids, I'm leaving you and your mom to go and die in a few years. Give me a break. Read The Case for Christ and Evidence that demands a verdict. You will learn a lot that doesn't get circulated in the media because they don't like eating crow when they are prven wrong. And Jesus was not gay you tree hugging hippie, was is inevitable. That's the only way we know what peace is. Get over it.

Actually, the first gospel (Mark) was not written until after 70 CE. According to some scholars the last cannonical gospel was not written until around 120 CE.

The tradition of gospel writing was not about recording historical events. It was an elaborate expression of one's connection with the divine. It is all metaphor and allegory.

Read "Challenging the Verdict" by Earl Doherty, for a position that corrects Lee Strobel's assertions.

No. Jesus was not married. He was not gay. He never existed. Neither did all the heroes and demigods on whom his character was based.

[malthenfindel]

why the comments that Jesus didn't exist?

I am curious to hear what would back that up-
personally I would think that a man whose reputation has lived for, what, a couple thousand years, was definitely alive and kickin' at some point.

I haven't heard any arguments against the mere existance of Jesus, only against Him as Messiah.

[Larry Coons]

Rami wrote:

<quoted text>No. Jesus was not married. He was not gay. He never existed. Neither did all the heroes and demigods on whom his character was based.

Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Daoists, Shinto, Confucianists, Pagans, Jews and Christians make up most of the world and every one would tell you Jesus existed. The majority of them would view him as at least a prophet. Why do aethiests think they have to disprove someone's existence to prove they are right? We have to agree somewhere folks or it isn't even worth arguing.

Show me in the scripture, accepted by the majority of Abrahamic beliefs, that Jesus married, was gay, or even sinned. I would like to see that.

[DeepThinka]

malthenfindel wrote:

why the comments that Jesus didn't exist?
I am curious to hear what would back that up-
personally I would think that a man whose reputation has lived for, what, a couple thousand years, was definitely alive and kickin' at some point.
I haven't heard any arguments against the mere existance of Jesus, only against Him as Messiah.

In all fairness, neither of us were alive 2000 years ago. So please understand that there's very little that either of us can say with 100% certainty. The only thing we can espouse to is what is probable.

From the activity that I have read as it pertains to the life of Jesus, I see too much similarity to what was Sun worship. The Bible just took data that was known about the Sun, and personified it. Called it Jesus. After seeing so many "coincidences" one must either conclude that either this man Jesus took painstaking detail to live his life exactly as the Sun (what are the odds?), or one must conclude that perhaps the story of Jesus isn't really about a man at all, but symbolic of something else.

[MiddleWay]

I think if Jesus was NOT married it would have been mentioned in the Bible as it was not an ordinary state, especialy for the members of the house of David.

But some think that if Jesus was married it would negate all his teachings and miracles...how silly!

[malthenfindel]

DeepThinka wrote:

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In all fairness, neither of us were alive 2000 years ago. So please understand that there's very little that either of us can say with 100% certainty. The only thing we can espouse to is what is probable.
From the activity that I have read as it pertains to the life of Jesus, I see too much similarity to what was Sun worship. The Bible just took data that was known about the Sun, and personified it. Called it Jesus. After seeing so many "coincidences" one must either conclude that either this man Jesus took painstaking detail to live his life exactly as the Sun (what are the odds?), or one must conclude that perhaps the story of Jesus isn't really about a man at all, but symbolic of something else.

Sun worship by what peoples? Egyptian?

[someone else who cares]

Coolmind wrote:

No, he was gay.
"Misquoting Jesus" by Ehrman

why on earth would you say that jesus was gay? can you please answer that? Jesus was sent here for a purpose.
Marriage or homosexuality was not part of that purpose. thank you.

[shaun]

Rami wrote:

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Actually, the first gospel (Mark) was not written until after 70 CE. According to some scholars the last cannonical gospel was not written until around 120 CE.

Depends on which side of the conservative/liberal theology spectrum you're on. There are an equal number of scholars who state against that theory, and a long list of evidence that Matthew, Mark and Luke were written pre-70. There is more evidence, also, that Matthew had an Aramaic version prior to the one we have now, and that that version was written in the early 50s. John has been dated from 80-120 A.D.

The tradition of gospel writing was not about recording historical events. It was an elaborate expression of one's connection with the divine. It is all metaphor and allegory.

For one, "Gospel Writing" was not a style in Greco-Roman times. What was common was the style the Synoptics were written in: Historical Narrative - describing an actual event with factual details.

The chronology of events in the writings in apostolic times was not important, but rather the content (hence why different events are put into different places). The order was determined on what fit the point and teaching of the writer best. However, the authenticity was never compromised - simply the order it was presented in.

No. Jesus was not married. He was not gay. He never existed. Neither did all the heroes and demigods on whom his character was based.

Have some evidence to back that truth claim up? This seems like an unfounded, highly unlikely assertion to me. Nearly all biblical and historical scholars today would disagree with your statement, as there is loads of extant textual evidence against that claim.

[Elkay]

MiddleWay wrote:

I think if Jesus was NOT married it would have been mentioned in the Bible as it was not an ordinary state, especialy for the members of the house of David.
But some think that if Jesus was married it would negate all his teachings and miracles...how silly!

How could his having a wife negate his teachings? I don't see how marriage could keep him from performing miracles. I am not trying to debate you; I would really like to hear your reasoning.

[Elkay]

DeepThinka wrote:

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From the activity that I have read as it pertains to the life of Jesus, I see too much similarity to what was Sun worship. The Bible just took data that was known about the Sun, and personified it. Called it Jesus. After seeing so many "coincidences" one must either conclude that either this man Jesus took painstaking detail to live his life exactly as the Sun (what are the odds?), or one must conclude that perhaps the story of Jesus isn't really about a man at all, but symbolic of something else.

There also seem to be corrolaries to the pagan harvest gods, who were born to sacrifice themselves for the good of their communities. There are many ancient tales of sacrifice and redemption, even before Christ.

[Coolmind]

He never married.. he was gay.

[Drew H]

No.

[Larry Coons]

Elkay wrote:

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How could his having a wife negate his teachings? I don't see how marriage could keep him from performing miracles. I am not trying to debate you; I would really like to hear your reasoning.

People who come out with things like this just want to cloud the truth. I think, by promulgating misleading theories, people somehow think it supports what they WANT to be true. I think somewhere deep, if you really look at these individuals, you find someone hurt by all the insults they get from Christians that want to 'beat down' their ideas. Asking questions is a good way to get answers. I, personally, promote Christian knowledge.

However, there are a lot of non-believers that want to 'beat down' our ideas as well. After giving up on fighting them, I finally decided to allow love to guide the argument.

[Coolmind]

If he was married, did he do her in just the "missionary" position or did he do her doggie style too? Oral sex? He was just a guy, so hopefully liked a variety of sex acts... Oh well, he's dead.. been dead for almost 2000 yrs.

[Larry Coons]

Coolmind wrote:

If he was married, did he do her in just the "missionary" position or did he do her doggie style too? Oral sex? He was just a guy, so hopefully liked a variety of sex acts... Oh well, he's dead.. been dead for almost 2000 yrs.

I don't understand your hatred, but I am sorry your mind works this way. Have you considered professional help?

[Falasha]

Of course Jesus was married. He was called Rabbi.

[DeepThinka]

malthenfindel wrote:

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Sun worship by what peoples? Egyptian?

Yes. Egypt was actually considered to be the most advanced civilization in those days, in fact we still marvel at some of their work today. So it was no surprise that many other regions looked up to Egypt, and unfortunately stole a lot of their beliefs and practices. Some were smart enough back then to realize that the Egyptians were pagan, so in order to make Christianity look different they personalized it more. They may have thought why re-invent the wheel? Egyptians had a religion that has been working, why not put a new face on the same old thing? The Bible on the surface looks like it's got nothing to do with Sun worship, but study it closer, and you'll see it's got plenty to do with it.