Legislature gets more inspiration for smoking ban

Full story: GoErie.com

In Illinois, a state whose Legislature is held in similar ill-regard as Pennsylvania's, a smoking ban in workplaces and public spaces went into effect on New Year's Day.
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Jeff

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Jan 7, 2008
 
Last time I checked, I did not live in France. Who cares what they do? They don't care about us.

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Since: Sep 07

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#2
Jan 7, 2008
 
Dr. Seigel Started a NEW web page today called

Center for Public Accountability in Tobacco Control.

http://www.tobaccocontrolintegrity.com/

Interesting read. Although he is STILL calling for banning smoking is ALL work places, he is showing all the LIES some of the Anti smoking organizations are telling in order to get their point accross. He says it is doing MORE HARM than good. when people catch you in a lie they figure you are lying all the time...
just candid

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Jan 7, 2008
 
In todays world smokers are stigmatized as if they had a social disease, which is exactly what smoking is.
amy4peace

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Jan 7, 2008
 
Retired Jersey Boy wrote:
Dr. Seigel Started a NEW web page today called
Center for Public Accountability in Tobacco Control.
http://www.tobaccocontrolintegrity.com/
Interesting read. Although he is STILL calling for banning smoking is ALL work places, he is showing all the LIES some of the Anti smoking organizations are telling in order to get their point accross. He says it is doing MORE HARM than good. when people catch you in a lie they figure you are lying all the time...
That last line sounds like G.W.Bushit----WAIT------it is G.W.Bushit
Kent

Shepherdstown, WV

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Jan 7, 2008
 
Anti-smokers are the STD's of modern society.
Nemo31

Erie, PA

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Jan 7, 2008
 
Now the Times presents another weak argument. Do it because someone else is doing it. When I was akid a got caught doing something and stated "well Jhonny did it". The adult reponse was "if Jhonny went down and jumped in the lake should you do it?" Seeing it is January on the shores of Lake Erie the times seems to be supporting going down and jumping in the lake! i find it hypocritical that the Times and all these other PA rags support the type of pier pressure tactic tobacco control blame for kids starting smoking-peer pressure. This also shows the education flaws at the editors received while persueing their higher education. Time for a little less of Karl Marx and a lot more of John Locke and George Mason.

They also let it out that they are lobbying. Now who believes lobbyist anymore? So much for a fair and balanced press. Maybe its time the gubmit intervenes in the free press after all its all about "leveling the playing field" for the public good the Times should have no problem with the constitutional violation. After all banning smoking on private property is OK in their opinion so they should not mind gubmit control of what they print.
Joe in Illinois

Naperville, IL

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Jan 7, 2008
 
Go ahead in the name of health, send smokers out into the sub zero weather as was done in Chicago last week. Are you sure you want to alienate smokers, kill bar business and lower the income of Bartener and waitresses.

Since: Dec 07

Meadville, PA

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Jan 7, 2008
 
Thanks to Jersey Boy for the reference to Dr. Siegel's new website. However, I wonder if any accumulation of facts can free the newspaper editorial anti-secondhand smoke mind set that hundreds of millions of dollars worth of propaganda has instilled.

Perhaps, given the low editorial requirements for scientific evidence, their numbers will be reduced over the years if enough of them get suckered in to Tijuana quack clinics for any aliments, but I guess they will never get sick if they can just ban secondhand smoke.

Maybe that is the appeal of the quack. They dramatize the threat and hype their cure-all. People will give anything, even their own and everybody else's freedoms, just on the chance the cure will work.
Tommy

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Jan 7, 2008
 
framis wrote:
Thanks to Jersey Boy for the reference to Dr. Siegel's new website. However, I wonder if any accumulation of facts can free the newspaper editorial anti-secondhand smoke mind set that hundreds of millions of dollars worth of propaganda has instilled.
Perhaps, given the low editorial requirements for scientific evidence, their numbers will be reduced over the years if enough of them get suckered in to Tijuana quack clinics for any aliments, but I guess they will never get sick if they can just ban secondhand smoke.
Maybe that is the appeal of the quack. They dramatize the threat and hype their cure-all. People will give anything, even their own and everybody else's freedoms, just on the chance the cure will work.
Are you talking about smoking or global warming?
Ken

Pittsburgh, PA

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Jan 8, 2008
 
I agree 100%. Smoking is a killer and a smoking ban gives a smoker another reason to try and quit.

“Obama is a Liar, Period!”

Since: Jan 07

Pittsburgh, PA

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#12
Jan 8, 2008
 
With everybody and their uncle stopping smoking, why hasn't health care costs gone down? Oh I forgot, UPMC gives our money to Pittsburgh school's who can't do the job without this type of carrot and stick. Professional educators, YEAH.
Tommy

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Jan 8, 2008
 
Old Cynic wrote:
With everybody and their uncle stopping smoking, why hasn't health care costs gone down? Oh I forgot, UPMC gives our money to Pittsburgh school's who can't do the job without this type of carrot and stick. Professional educators, YEAH.
Probably because now we have an obesity "epidemic", and all it's own healthcare related issues, picking up the slack.

Wonder what kinds of bans/restrictions and taxes the government has in mind to get this next healthcare catastrophe under control.

Since: Dec 06

Ruskin, FL

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#14
Jan 8, 2008
 
There used to be a time when after a good steamy sex session, a guy and his hottie could sit back, have a smoke or two, and get going for another steamy round.
Not today. Now the damned no tell motels won't even provide an ash tray.

Since: Nov 07

North East, PA

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Jan 9, 2008
 
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