Moving heaven and earth

Moving heaven and earth

There are 9 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Mar 7, 2007, titled Moving heaven and earth. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

The head of one of the world's foremost environmental organizations came to Indianapolis this week with a prophetic message, and brought science and religion along for mutual support.

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Catfish

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Mar 7, 2007
You guys are funny. I'm guessing someone that knows you suggested Moe as your avatar? What you "outta do" is try to form some of your own opinions.

More and more scientists (those not owned by the billions of research dollars available to them if they walk the line) are coming forward...and a light of truth is about to be shined on this ridiculous scam, so buckle up.
Mike B

Fishers, IN

#3 Mar 7, 2007
Every "well intentioned" regulation and restriction is just a nail in the coffin of Americam manufacturing. Overinflated wages, Unions, excessive regulations have driven maunfacturing to Mexico, China and elswehere. While the do gooder spout about what we "should do" the reality is that manufacturing is dying in America due to "good intentions".
Steve in Indianapolis

United States

#4 Mar 7, 2007
I only hope that Mr. Blackerwelder did not travel to the city in a private jet and be driven around town in a limo with police escort, as Al Gore is.

As he berates the rest of us for not taking care of the environment.
there he goes again

Indianapolis, IN

#5 Mar 9, 2007
"How many Christians does it take to close down a coal-fired power plant? Maybe 15 million, if they'd only change the light bulbs in their homes to high-efficiency fluorescents."

Once again, Dan reveals his intolerance by trying to dictate to the rest of us what makes a "good" Christian vesus a "bad" Christian.

Once again, Dan wants his "Christian values" and personal morality enforced through regulation and judicial fiat.

Once again, Dan claims to have to have exclusive insight into how God wants us live, who He likes and doesn't like and what role He wants His children to play in shaping society.

We all wait with bated breath for Dan's next revelation from the Almighty.
Dustin

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Mar 12, 2007
The Separation of Environment and State

Religion: a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects.

Movement: a progressive development of ideas toward a particular conclusion.

Let us examine the key word in each of the above definitions. In religion it is beliefs; in movement it is ideas. If you look at these two words together, you see what both Christians and Environmentalists have in common…a set of OPINIONS that require faith and a conviction that what they believe is true. Yet, the Christian Religion and Environmental Movement are treated completely different by the United States Government, and the politicians who make the laws.

Let us start with the question plaguing the environmentalists…are not climate change and global warming caused by humans? Well, it depends on who you ask. Is there definitive PROOF? No. There are individuals who believe that humans cause global warming. There are those who believe that global warming is a cycle caused by solar activity. Both sides site evidence to support their case, but in reality, it comes down to each side’s own belief system.

Now, we should be able to see the next question coming…Are not Christianity and Jesus Christ the One True Faith? Well, again, it depends on who you ask. Is there definitive PROOF? No. There are individuals who believe that Jesus Christ was exactly who he claimed to be, God on Earth. There are others who say he was just a prophet/man/phony, etc. Both sides have evidence to support their case, but in reality, it comes down to each side’s own belief system.

One belief system comes from our former Vice President, Al Gore. He says that the ‘climate emergency’ is about morality and not politics.

I completely agree! So, under the Constitution of the United States, and more specifically, the Supreme Court of the United States which has declared there to be a “separation of church and state,” should there also be a “Separation of Environment and State?” Why is legislating the particulars of a religion ANY different than legislating climate change laws? The United States Government has expressly said that it will not advance the ideas of one particular religion over another (the 1st Amendment), yet the United States Government, as Al Gore and climate alarmists believe, is “morally obligated” to advance the opinions of climate change/global warming and create laws based on those opinions.

Why should climate change alarmists be given the bully pulpit of the United States Government when Christians are denied the exact same option everyday? Just as religious organizations recruit individuals and preach their message to them; maybe the environmental movement should structure their own ways to recruit individuals with their belief system. My guess is that those responsible for the climate change/global warming movement do not follow their own advice, i.e. conservation. It is a little tough to preach to someone about conservation when you arrive in a caravan of gas guzzling SUV’s and limousines.(I wonder how Al Gore got to the Academy Awards anyway. Commercial aviation to a Hybrid to the red carpet…I think not).

Maybe, the climate change alarmists know the best way to ‘recruit’ is to mandate. Take away choice and force individuals/corporations to accept their belief system, or else. I wonder what the reaction would be if Christian churches were to do the same through the United States Government? I think the word Bigotry comes to mind…
Timjam

Dayton, OH

#7 Mar 12, 2007
what does christianity have to do with the price of tea in Indiancraponapolis?
Dustin

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Mar 13, 2007
Timjam wrote:
what does christianity have to do with the price of tea in Indiancraponapolis?
Nothing. But if you would read the article, you would see what it has to do with the Environmental movement. I wouldn't expect you to comprehend; go get a fresh cup of Kool-Aide.
Richard Malanoski

Bloomington, IN

#9 Mar 13, 2007
Dan
I was reading some PETA material and I developed this theory on what happened to the dinasours. The dinasours were on the earth a long time. The longer they were on the Earth the bigger they got. They also developed an over population problem. So So there was a large population of big dinasours. What you get from all these large dinasours is flagulance. From flagelance you get methane. Methane is a global warming gas. The methane caused the earth to go into a heating cycle. The hotter than normal earth killed all the dinasour.
Markus

Livonia, MI

#10 Mar 15, 2007
Mike B wrote:
Every "well intentioned" regulation and restriction is just a nail in the coffin of Americam manufacturing. Overinflated wages, Unions, excessive regulations have driven maunfacturing to Mexico, China and elswehere. While the do gooder spout about what we "should do" the reality is that manufacturing is dying in America due to "good intentions".
Thanks for pointing out the source of the skepticism for this science. It's not that the science is wrong, it's simply inconvenient.

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