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Secret papers turn up heat on global-warming deniers

There are 5 comments on the Salon.com story from Feb 17, 2012, titled Secret papers turn up heat on global-warming deniers. In it, Salon.com reports that:

With Al Gore way down in Antarctica inspecting melting glaciers, and America's unusually mild winter providing a respite from seasons of freakish droughts, floods, Nome-style whiteouts and the hurricane that ravaged Vermont, the issue of man-caused global warming has been out of sight and mind.

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SpaceBlues

United States

#1 Feb 17, 2012
Secret papers turn up heat on global-warming deniers

Purloined, secret documents suggest the Heartland Institute could have lobbying plans, in violation of IRS rules

Climate change denial’s new offensive

Global warming is wreaking devastation, but Big Oil won't give up profits without a planet-destroying fight

“The Truth Will Set You Free”

Since: Jun 07

Gainesville, FL

#2 Feb 17, 2012
Duh, all of you brain-dead warmists have jumped the gun. The facts show that your 'smoking gun' has blown up in your faces. The main memo document "2012 Heartland Climate Strategy" in question is a FORGERY added to legitimate documents by another loser warmist trying a smear campaign.

You need to read up from a fellow warmist's perspective: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2 ...

1. All of the documents are high-quality PDFs generated from original electronic files ... except for the "Climate Strategy" memo.

2. The date on the memo file is different from the other documents.

2. Every single verifiable fact that's in the memo is found in another one of the documents, or available in a public source

3. The style is different

4. It's too short

5. The worldview is different (written from a warmist view of skeptics

6. There's no name, date, or identifying information in the memo

7. Heartland says that this was erroneously emailed to someone impersonating a board member. If this memo is so secret, how did the staffer get a hold of it to email? Did a "senior staffer" really not recognize a member of the board's inner circle?

Related question: Why is this memo super-secret, when there's nothing in it that isn't also in the materials distributed to the entire board?

Overall, like the fake documents and quotes of earlier posts, it just feels too convenient. It's a super-handy roadmap to all the most incendiary portions of the other documents, and it contains absolutely nothing that does not serve that purpose--no formulaic self-puffery, no mentions of problems that you would think a legitimate memo would have covered, like the precipitous cuts in their global warming programs that they were forced to undertake when their anonymous donor delivered less cash than expected in 2011. It reads like it was written for climate activists. And I don't get the feeling that the folks at Heartland are much interested in helping out their friends at ClimateProgress and Grist.

There's much more if you would bother to read it and learn something.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#3 Feb 17, 2012
Upstanding citizens, these people...

"Worried that liberal (and, in their view, overpaid) public schoolteachers are turning young minds green with impunity, Heartland planned to pay a coal industry consultant named David Wojick about $25,000 per quarter, to create a curriculum to counter global warming education in schools.

“Many people lament the absence of educational material suitable for K-12 students on global warming that isn’t alarmist or overtly political,” the document states.“Heartland has tried to make material available to teachers, but has had only limited success.”

Heartland is not alone in attacking the issue through the schools. Three states (Louisiana, Texas and South Dakota) have passed so-called Environmental Literacy Improvement Act bills — written by energy industry shills — that require schools to teach climate change “denial”
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#5 Feb 17, 2012
Northie wrote:
Upstanding citizens, these people...
"Worried that liberal (and, in their view, overpaid) public schoolteachers are turning young minds green with impunity, Heartland planned to pay a coal industry consultant named David Wojick about $25,000 per quarter, to create a curriculum to counter global warming education in schools.
“Many people lament the absence of educational material suitable for K-12 students on global warming that isn’t alarmist or overtly political,” the document states.“Heartland has tried to make material available to teachers, but has had only limited success.”
Heartland is not alone in attacking the issue through the schools. Three states (Louisiana, Texas and South Dakota) have passed so-called Environmental Literacy Improvement Act bills — written by energy industry shills — that require schools to teach climate change “denial”
HAHAHA....HAHAHA....

Here is what the AGW Cult thinks climate change “denial” is:

“Second Law of Thermodynamics: It is NOT POSSIBLE for heat to flow from a colder body to a warmer body without any work having been done to accomplish this flow. Energy will not flow spontaneously from a low temperature object to a higher temperature object.”
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/th...

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- All Teachers should present the IPCC AR4 Report definition of the Fantasy "Greenhouse Effect" ie. A Colder Atmosphere HEATING UP a Warmer Earth.

- The Students should be informed that 97% of AGW Climate "scientists" say that a +15 deg C Earth surface will Heat-Up due to a -20 deg C atmosphere.

- The Students should be informed of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics that states:

“Second Law of Thermodynamics: It is NOT POSSIBLE for heat to flow from a colder body to a warmer body without any work having been done to accomplish this flow. Energy will not flow spontaneously from a low temperature object to a higher temperature object.”
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/th...

This should be followed with a demonstration:

- A -20 deg C block of Ice should be placed next to a +15 deg C beaker of water in a +15 deg C ambient temperature room.
- The -20 deg C block of Ice is labeled as "Average Atmospheric Temperature" with a thermometer in the Ice and the +15 deg C Water labeled as "Average Earth Surface Temperature" with a thermometer in the Water.
- The Thermometers are turned away from the Students so they can no longer read the Thermometers

Students should be asked to select the correct answer from the following list:

a) The +15 deg C Water will Heat-Up and increase in temperature.

b) The +15 deg C Water will Cool and decrease in temperature.

After 15 minutes the Thermometers are read.

The Teacher will then ask the Students if the 2nd Law was correct or 97% of AGW Climate "scientists".

That would demonstrate who the real DENIERS are.
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I wonder how long the MYTH of AGW would last?
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#6 Feb 17, 2012
Next, the Teacher should present a list of all the things that 97% of AGW Climate "scientists" say is caused by A Colder Atmosphere HEATING UP a Warmer Earth.

This list should serve very well:

A complete list of things caused by AGW.
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

After allowing the Students to read through the articles, and after the laughter settles down, a poll of the Students should be taken to see how many believe the articles.

Now that is absolutely PRICELESS EDUCATION.

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