Global warming is dead. What's the next eco-scare?

Jan 20, 2010 Full story: Men's News Daily 238

As the man-made global warming fear movement collapses and the climate establishment lay in a Climategate ridden tatters , many are asking what next? As man-made global warming fears enter the ashbin of history, what will environmentalists, UN activists and politicians do to fill the void of a failed eco-scare? Well, wonder no more.

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Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#1 Jan 20, 2010
How about the earth is getting flatter?
Mr Giblets

Haverfordwest, UK

#2 Jan 20, 2010
they will find something, but they won't give up easily on the AGW scam, there are too many on the gravy train. They now have the climate change scare, but if they can't continue kidding us it's our fault, it will all collapse.
Earthling

Hellín, Spain

#3 Jan 20, 2010
They seem to think the next scare could be nitrous oxide, that would be a laugh.

Strange, I thought the next scare had already started with methane.

It doesn't matter what's chosen, some suckers will fall for it, they always do.
Pokay1kaduB

North East, PA

#4 Jan 20, 2010
So this has become the "science that cried wolf"? How will we ever know if something's legit if the deniers deny everything by reflex, with no thinking involved?

I guess heavy metals have separated themselves from their ores all on their own and dispersed themselves around the planet slowly poisoning it more and more. And same with petroleum based chemicals/solvents/etc. Another few hundred years of this inundation will really do the earh good, huh? Everything has a natural cause, humans couldn't possibly influence this planet.

Without even considering global warming, who can say that we are carrying on a sustainable lifestyle? We should be working on sustainability regardless of global warming. Why would it be a bad idea to subsidize green tech and reduce subsidies where we don't need them? How else can it become a contender?

I hope I live to see the day that oil and coal run low, so that I can watch the deniers and the NIMBYs finally give in to 'whatever it takes in anyone's backyard to keep the power flowing'. Can't wait for a little 'humbling of the human race'. Won't be too many more lifetimes before humans are forced to act.
Earthling

Hellín, Spain

#5 Jan 20, 2010
Pokay1kaduB wrote:
I hope I live to see the day that oil and coal run low, so that I can watch the deniers and the NIMBYs finally give in to 'whatever it takes in anyone's backyard to keep the power flowing'. Can't wait for a little 'humbling of the human race'. Won't be too many more lifetimes before humans are forced to act.
You have my pity, to the point where I hope you do live long enough to see everything you want to see, but I'm afraid you'll have to live longer than anyone ever has to achieve that dream.
Considering the state you tell us you're in right now, I don't rate your chances much.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#6 Jan 20, 2010
Rumours of the death of global warming have been greatly exaggerated.

Expect new temperature records this year to prove it.
Earthling

Hellín, Spain

#7 Jan 20, 2010
Yeah, FuG, keep the pot boiling.
I hope you're happy when another record is broken, I gather it's being so cheerful that keeps you going.
Pokay1kaduB

North East, PA

#8 Jan 20, 2010
Earthling wrote:
<quoted text>You have my pity, to the point where I hope you do live long enough to see everything you want to see, but I'm afraid you'll have to live longer than anyone ever has to achieve that dream.
Considering the state you tell us you're in right now, I don't rate your chances much.
Well there's always my next lifetime or the one after that......If I thought all we were was just a transient form of nongenuine but emergent consciousness/intelligence that would never have any consequences for irresponsibility then I wouldn't care about this crap either. Nature can wipe us out in one swipe so why should we bother trying especially when emissions limits won't be enough, rather we'll never be able to limit them enough to make a difference? Well because of a couple reasons.
1) Sustainability for future generations (includes reducing pollution as well as building sustainable energy sources)
2) Because we don't want to be the reason future generations have to face the impossible. Let nature do them in. We can at least try to give a head start to a sustainable future.

And the more people that think green tech is nowhere near able to handle any real capacity, the more reason we start as soon as possible instead of waiting a couple more centuries until the oil runs out.
Pokay1kaduB

North East, PA

#9 Jan 20, 2010
Fair Game wrote:
Rumours of the death of global warming have been greatly exaggerated.
Expect new temperature records this year to prove it.
2009 already set a new record for the southern hemisphere while the sun is quieter than it's been in a century. This sun cycle aught to be interesting.*Any* additional heat will spell new records I'm sure. "Death of global warming" won't even start to happen until we have a couple decades of below average yearly temps, haven't had a single year of it yet since I don't remember when, 2009 was 2nd warmest.
Pokay1kaduB

North East, PA

#10 Jan 20, 2010
Earthling wrote:
Yeah, FuG, keep the pot boiling.
I hope you're happy when another record is broken, I gather it's being so cheerful that keeps you going.
No one wants it to warm, but how else to get people to realize it is warming than to keep reminding them?
Earthling

Hellín, Spain

#11 Jan 20, 2010
Pokay1kaduB wrote:
Well there's always my next lifetime or the one after that......
ROFLMAO.
Live in hope, die in despair.
Earthling

Hellín, Spain

#12 Jan 20, 2010
Pokay1kaduB wrote:
No one wants it to warm, but how else to get people to realize it is warming than to keep reminding them?
To what end?
No one living at any time will notice a warming climate at the rate of 1ºF or C per century.
Mr Giblets

Haverfordwest, UK

#13 Jan 20, 2010
Pokay1kaduB wrote:
<quoted text>2009 already set a new record for the southern hemisphere while the sun is quieter than it's been in a century. This sun cycle aught to be interesting.*Any* additional heat will spell new records I'm sure. "Death of global warming" won't even start to happen until we have a couple decades of below average yearly temps, haven't had a single year of it yet since I don't remember when, 2009 was 2nd warmest.
only recently you warmies were saying that the Sun had NO effect at all on the climate - now it is your big hope that the Sun will rescue your theory. But we have said all along it is the Sun and not CO2. How will you blame sunspots on Bush and Big Oil?
Mr Giblets

Haverfordwest, UK

#14 Jan 20, 2010
Pokay1kaduB wrote:
<quoted text>No one wants it to warm, but how else to get people to realize it is warming than to keep reminding them?
yes you do! you are all the same , hoping for disasters to prove your crackpot theory. We all see the disappointment when yet another prophecy doesn't come true.
JRobert

Benet Lake, WI

#15 Jan 20, 2010
Pokay1kaduB wrote:
So this has become the "science that cried wolf"? How will we ever know if something's legit if the deniers deny everything by reflex, with no thinking involved?
I guess heavy metals have separated themselves from their ores all on their own and dispersed themselves around the planet slowly poisoning it more and more. And same with petroleum based chemicals/solvents/etc. Another few hundred years of this inundation will really do the earh good, huh? Everything has a natural cause, humans couldn't possibly influence this planet.
Without even considering global warming, who can say that we are carrying on a sustainable lifestyle? We should be working on sustainability regardless of global warming. Why would it be a bad idea to subsidize green tech and reduce subsidies where we don't need them? How else can it become a contender?
I hope I live to see the day that oil and coal run low, so that I can watch the deniers and the NIMBYs finally give in to 'whatever it takes in anyone's backyard to keep the power flowing'. Can't wait for a little 'humbling of the human race'. Won't be too many more lifetimes before humans are forced to act.
"Green tech?" Like the environmentally disastrous corn ethanol? The one that you greenies and Warmists helped force on us with a government mandate?

Speaking of "humbling", too bad you Warmists and greenies are too arrogantly sure of yourselves to humble yourselves to the point of "acting" to get rid of this environmental, social and financial monstrosity.

How about it? When will you speak up as loudly and with the same enthusiasm about this proven disaster as you do with the theory of man-made climate change?
Pokay1kaduB

North East, PA

#16 Jan 20, 2010
Earthling wrote:
<quoted text>ROFLMAO.
Live in hope, die in despair.
No, it's live AND die with a clean conscience. There's no despair. You will probably be the one "despairing". Death would set me free, why would I despair? Living is the hard part, especially with irresponsible people like you around.
Pokay1kaduB

North East, PA

#17 Jan 20, 2010
Earthling wrote:
<quoted text>To what end?
No one living at any time will notice a warming climate at the rate of 1ºF or C per century.
I know you'll tell me how responsible you are with your solar water tank and your frugal energy use, but you are irresponsible with your support of a continued descent into the unsustainability pit and the continued denial of the consequences of warming. Why should we not increase subsidy to green tech? Why should we keep giving them to coal and oil? You think oil and coal will stay cheap? They're not even really cheap now, especially for you guys in Europe.

As far as your idea that no one will ever notice a warming climate, I'm noticing it right now and have been for the last decade in my area. We haven't had a normal winter in ten years. It's in the '40s (F) when we should be having bouts of below zero weather. If we were in an all out ice age 150 yrs ago we would have had 5 degrees C to play with before getting into an extreme warm period. Well we were already warmer than an all out ice age then and now we are 1.5 degrees warmer in 150 yrs. That's incredibly fast warming. By 2100 and surely by 220 we will be into an all out extreme warm period complete with all the emerging consequences. You won't be around so you can get away with saying whatever you want, especially since you lack a conscience as well.

What will it take for you to admit it's warming? You already said you're not a denier. A sceptic admits it's warming. So you must just think that it is never going to warm enough to be big deal. So what will it take? When all the glaciers melt in a couple centuries? Will that be enough? You don't think people will live that long before we go extinct? What? When an ice sheet falls into the ocean? I know, not until you are forced from *your* home.

I agree with you that it is probably a losing battle to try limiting emissions. What else do you want? Why should we not subsidize green energy for the sake of sustainability?
Earthling

Hellín, Spain

#18 Jan 21, 2010
To all sceptics (and the denier).
We are dealing with cranks, folks.

This one wants to die with a, "clean" conscience, he's waiting for death to set him free from the burden of life.
He wants me to die in despair because of my, "irresponsible" behaviour.
He's panicking because winters where he lives aren't cold enough for his liking.
He tells me that his winters are no longer, "normal."

Does anyone know what a, "normal" winter should be like?

He goes on to tell me I, "lack a conscience" because I don't support 'the' theory.
He then asks me, "What will it take for you to admit it's warming?"
He should know by now that I've accepted that fact for a very long time, that I believe global climate has warmed 1ºF over the last 100 years and may warm another 1ºF by the end of this century.

In closing, I must remind him that I've never been involved here at any time in a discussion about subsidies of any kind.

Beware cranks, you know who they are!
Curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#19 Jan 21, 2010
Axis shift. 2012 theplanets will alighn and the poles will reverse? That is more believeable than the golwbull warming myth. I want the greenies to explainjust how al gores carbon credit reduces outpuit? We could have clean hydrogen power but it would be almost impossible to tax.If I had a hydrogen fuel cell . A small wind generator could power my home and car for almost free!
Curtis Lowe

Montgomery, AL

#20 Jan 21, 2010
Radioactive Whistle-Pigs!

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