Vietnam Visas: 'Till Death Do Us Part

Vietnam Visas: 'Till Death Do Us Part

There are 47 comments on the CBS 13 story from Feb 23, 2010, titled Vietnam Visas: 'Till Death Do Us Part. In it, CBS 13 reports that:

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ha noi yeu dau

UK

#1 Feb 23, 2010
hi there !

is it so sad to hear your stories that American IMMIGRATION REFUSED your wife and daughter to join you to settlement in America,
as you an immigration officer was a Vietnamese,

she did not consider all evidence you had submittes to support your application.

as you know ! she has been effected by the couture,
at an interview what you need to do is put your hands under the table gentlely massager her legs with the envelope with a bundle of Hochiminh pictures.DONG,DONG DONG then she will open her eyes to look at all the evidence of your case,

any way good luck to you please do not give up this importance fight.

further more if I was you I will go to live in vietnam,
to teach her English first next few years then making an application for settlement later.
can you do that ?

where did you find your lover any more over there ?

recommence me if you know

Anyway best wish, we hope that you soon settlement with your wife in your country.
SpongeBob

Toronto, Canada

#2 Feb 23, 2010
If the case were mine, I would file an appeal right away. The next step is hiring an immigration lawyer from USA and doing paper works at USA. Guaranteed everything will be fine afterward with delays, of course. Then turning around and sue the cacksacker "Vietnamese" who works/interviews at US consulate. There are too many OverseaVits who after got in Foreign citizen and work for Foreign Consulates abused the systems and trying to act as "God" toward their own folks. I don't think a Vietnamese national who works for Foreign Consulate has enough authority to turn down the case. Good luck to you, Buddy. Then after everything is fine, moving back to VN and make a second home there. You don't have to be fallen into someone's stupidity who has some kind of fking authorization to abuse an average citizen.
Good luck.
NVN777

Las Vegas, NV

#3 Feb 23, 2010
SpongeBob wrote:
If the case were mine, I would file an appeal right away. The next step is hiring an immigration lawyer from USA and doing paper works at USA. Guaranteed everything will be fine afterward with delays, of course. Then turning around and sue the cacksacker "Vietnamese" who works/interviews at US consulate. There are too many OverseaVits who after got in Foreign citizen and work for Foreign Consulates abused the systems and trying to act as "God" toward their own folks. I don't think a Vietnamese national who works for Foreign Consulate has enough authority to turn down the case. Good luck to you, Buddy. Then after everything is fine, moving back to VN and make a second home there. You don't have to be fallen into someone's stupidity who has some kind of fking authorization to abuse an average citizen.
Good luck.
Usually it's an American that works at the consulate who's able to speak a little bit of Vietnamese that's doing the interview. I know because I brought my wife over this way.
SpongeBob

Toronto, Canada

#4 Feb 23, 2010
NVN777 wrote:
<quoted text>Usually it's an American that works at the consulate who's able to speak a little bit of Vietnamese that's doing the interview. I know because I brought my wife over this way.
The reason I said "Vietnamese national" because according to the story of Thread's title. That's why I expressed I didn't think he is the guy with enough authority to turn down the case. In my mind I think he could be "vietnamese origin" with US citizenship and working there, but still, he wouldn't have enough power to turn down the case anyway. When an immigration appeal starts rolling, it would take the whole group of staffs from Immigration Board to DENY the case.
Anyway, if Mr. Kurtis has his bona fide relationship, the case will be ended up as his wish. And if I were him, I would turn back to sue the cacksacker at US consulate no matter he is brown, yellow, green , white, Black, Red, or even a Baboon....then I would let my little girl growing up in US and enjoy better condition and myself with my wife going back to VN and making a second home there for future use.
BTW, "NVN triple Seven", you got the wife in VN didn't you? That's good to know that. Congratulation, man. Now I don't know when will be the next time your couple would meet me, my wife and two of my kids in Saigon. Hopefully that would be someday not far from now.
See you!
ha noi yeu dau

UK

#5 Feb 23, 2010
bobspong wrote, i would turn back to sue the cacksacker,

hi bob, regarding to sue the immigration office for a refused those entry clearance application,

you can never wine, the reason for me to say that is because they have the power to refused any application if they have had some reasonble doubt,

you can appeal against the decision and let immigration court decide,

if you wine the case that is all over,
I know alots of people give up when the application was refused,

because they can not afford to pay for the appeal,

the immigration officer whom in charge the application he or she does have a power to refuse,

in order for the applicant to submit further evidence to supporting the case,

that is how the immigration worker.
they alway said this, if you two a true love why can he/she go over there to live with ?
WHAT INFORMATION AND EVIDENCE HAVA TO RE BUST THIS VERDICT ? that is the main thing ,

any way all the best to you all.
HCM BigAss TinyBrain

Las Vegas, NV

#6 Feb 23, 2010
There is a Korean-American officer and it seems many applicants are scared of her. Her Vietnamese is not fluential and she refuses interpreter help.
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The step daughter in the photo is quite cute. Hope she can have a much better life here!
HCM BigAss TinyBrain

Las Vegas, NV

#7 Feb 23, 2010
Don't be fast to blame these consulars.
The problem is that quite a high percentage of marriage is sham. I guess 35% or more spouses who come here are fake lovers.
ha noi yeu dau wrote:
bobspong wrote, i would turn back to sue the cacksacker,
hi bob, regarding to sue the immigration office for a refused those entry clearance application,
you can never wine, the reason for me to say that is because they have the power to refused any application if they have had some reasonble doubt,
you can appeal against the decision and let immigration court decide,
if you wine the case that is all over,
I know alots of people give up when the application was refused,
because they can not afford to pay for the appeal,
the immigration officer whom in charge the application he or she does have a power to refuse,
in order for the applicant to submit further evidence to supporting the case,
that is how the immigration worker.
they alway said this, if you two a true love why can he/she go over there to live with ?
WHAT INFORMATION AND EVIDENCE HAVA TO RE BUST THIS VERDICT ? that is the main thing ,
any way all the best to you all.
ha noi yeu dau

UK

#8 Feb 23, 2010
NVN 777,WROTE able to speak a little vietnamese.

you do not know any thing about the immigration rules at all so keep mouth shot up, and go to lick the lampost.

your comment it does not contribute to any thing,

you only know how to said dit,du,deo, that is your culture you are FOOOOOLLLL
tito

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Feb 23, 2010
hehehe...
ho chu tit teaching.
" deo' co' gi` qui' hon US pat' po"..
Just ask nvn777, phan dong, spongbob....
those are the one hanging very tight to the pat po...
SpongeBob

Toronto, Canada

#10 Feb 23, 2010
ha noi yeu dau wrote:
bobspong wrote, i would turn back to sue the cacksacker,
hi bob, regarding to sue the immigration office for a refused those entry clearance application,
you can never wine, the reason for me to say that is because they have the power to refused any application if they have had some reasonble doubt,
you can appeal against the decision and let immigration court decide,
if you wine the case that is all over,
I know alots of people give up when the application was refused,
because they can not afford to pay for the appeal,
the immigration officer whom in charge the application he or she does have a power to refuse,
in order for the applicant to submit further evidence to supporting the case,
that is how the immigration worker.
they alway said this, if you two a true love why can he/she go over there to live with ?
WHAT INFORMATION AND EVIDENCE HAVA TO RE BUST THIS VERDICT ? that is the main thing ,
any way all the best to you all.
If it were my case, and I knew mine is bonda-fide relationship, I would go all the way to the end, baby! You bet!
I would keep all of my evidences as a proof of my bonda-fide relationship prior to the interview, then start from there. Of course, there must be denial due to many fake cases, but paying attention to the story in thread's title... The staff who was in charged of interview didn't even bother considering or looking at these proofs. That's enough, man. Hire an US immigration lawyer and go to the immigration court in USA, of course it costs $$$ that's why I would go all the way until final acceptance, then with lawyer and my true case, US Immigration department must pay back all the costs from airplane tickets, trips, paper works, also lawyer fees. If a client wants to be accepted, just go HALF-WAY until his appeal accepted. If he GOES ALL THE WAY, US Immigration would be a loser and paying back all costs, baby! Keep in your mind that, a single consular official can deny your case but that's not the end. With your appeal, TO DENY YOUR CASE, IT WILL TAKE A DECISION WHICH IS A FINAL DISCUSSIONS FROM IMMIGRATION BOARD. In this case, this group consist of AT LEAST 3 staffs from immigration board, baby! Woop, I talked too much, I better shut my gaps or else someone might names me as "Mister Immigration Lawyer" while infact I only had 3rdGrade HochiMinh education..Eehehehe!
HCM BigAss TinyBrain

Las Vegas, NV

#11 Feb 23, 2010
deo' co' ji` qui' ho*n da^.p dzap (da^n) tu* do
va bay gio la` cac dong chi noi'
deo' co ji` qui' ho*n pat' po de' quoc My
tito wrote:
hehehe...
ho chu tit teaching.
" deo' co' gi` qui' hon US pat' po"..
Just ask nvn777, phan dong, spongbob....
those are the one hanging very tight to the pat po...
ha noi yeu dau

UK

#12 Feb 24, 2010
bob spong wrote,
i would go all the way,

yes i agree with you that if your are the true then nothing can stop you,

you were said you had 3rd Grade Hochiminh Education.

but your Education and qualification it does not cooperate with the international at all you know that do not you ?
but the international immigration law will worker very much difference than your education and qualification in vietnam.

you sound to have some knowlege of immigration law, I MUST Agree with,

but you still do not provide the imformation and evidence for rebust the verdict, if an imigration court rule out this,
why do not you go to live with your husband/wife over there.?

I WAITING FOR THE ANSWER,AND Evidences,

Thank you Bob,
best wish all the way.
SpongeBob

Toronto, Canada

#13 Feb 24, 2010
ha noi yeu dau wrote:
bob spong wrote,
i would go all the way,
yes i agree with you that if your are the true then nothing can stop you,
you were said you had 3rd Grade Hochiminh Education.
but your Education and qualification it does not cooperate with the international at all you know that do not you ?
but the international immigration law will worker very much difference than your education and qualification in vietnam.
you sound to have some knowlege of immigration law, I MUST Agree with,
but you still do not provide the imformation and evidence for rebust the verdict, if an imigration court rule out this,
why do not you go to live with your husband/wife over there.?
I WAITING FOR THE ANSWER,AND Evidences,
Thank you Bob,
best wish all the way.
To answer your question, here it is and with "my instinct", the rule is applied on ANYWHERE ON EARTH, a little bit similar to divorce/family/children alimony regulations:
1/Between husband and wife, most of the laws regardless of national boundary will favor WHOEVER HAS MORE INCOMES, JOB STABILITY, BETTER ENVIRONMENT AND SAFETY in term of children care or family care. In this case, the wife is living in Vietnam which has no Welfare services. The wife herself has no steady, stable job
2/Unless the independants are disables which will become burdens to society, generally other than that they, both wife and kid are healthy, young, ALSO in relationship as SPOUSE and CHILDREN, no Law can prohibit them to unite as one family.
3/With all of proofs to be represented in the immigration court to show this is a bona-fide relationship, under oath and agreement sign-up done by sponsorship procedures, I believe sooner or later they as one family will be united in United States of America.
The end. Hey, Once again, I never had any problem to immigration Law to have experiences or work for Law offices, but that is conclusion of an 3rd Grade HochiMinh education.
SpongeBob

Toronto, Canada

#14 Feb 24, 2010
suppement:
There is NO LAW ON EARTH designates or appoints A FAMILY(Husband and wife)RESIDENCE in term of international immigration policy. Otherwise, they, as family have choice of their own to decide where they would want to be resided.
ha noi yeu dau

UK

#15 Feb 24, 2010
SPONG WROTE,
THERE IS NO LAW ON EARTH designate or appoint a family husbund,wife RESIDENCE.

YES you told me that the immigration law of viet nam.

immigration law in the rich nation, the law very tighten,

you can go and live in vietnam with your (husbund,wife)very easy but alots difficult for you to come and live with husbund wife in the rich nation.

now let me set example for you, if you hold a VIETNAMESE PASPORT you can travel around FAR EAST, you can not travel around EUROPE, if you have AMERICAN PASSPORT YOU CAN TRAVEL Around the world.

are they difference ? Bob! your Hochi minh Education and qualification of immigration the only relevan with LAOS,CAMBODIA,that all.

let me tell one more thing,I go to vietnam and apply visa on arival but those have had a vietnamese passport can not do that with any EUROPEAN country.

so finaly your Education in Hochiminh are used less over here.
what you have wrote is you just wrote with your owner mind.

any way it does not help any thing just for you and me to argue,

but you did not provide or give some idea which immigration law of America request,

why do not you go and live over there with your wife, husbund? if you can not answer then you lose your case,

simple as that,

any way sleep well.
SpongeBob

Toronto, Canada

#17 Feb 24, 2010
ha noi yeu dau wrote:
SPONG WROTE,
THERE IS NO LAW ON EARTH designate or appoint a family husbund,wife RESIDENCE.
YES you told me that the immigration law of viet nam.
immigration law in the rich nation, the law very tighten,
you can go and live in vietnam with your (husbund,wife)very easy but alots difficult for you to come and live with husbund wife in the rich nation.
now let me set example for you, if you hold a VIETNAMESE PASPORT you can travel around FAR EAST, you can not travel around EUROPE, if you have AMERICAN PASSPORT YOU CAN TRAVEL Around the world.
are they difference ? Bob! your Hochi minh Education and qualification of immigration the only relevan with LAOS,CAMBODIA,that all.
let me tell one more thing,I go to vietnam and apply visa on arival but those have had a vietnamese passport can not do that with any EUROPEAN country.
so finaly your Education in Hochiminh are used less over here.
what you have wrote is you just wrote with your owner mind.
any way it does not help any thing just for you and me to argue,
but you did not provide or give some idea which immigration law of America request,
why do not you go and live over there with your wife, husbund? if you can not answer then you lose your case,
simple as that,
any way sleep well.
Go and read comment # 13. About conpare visas b/t the West versus vn is a different story. Not just VN, most of South East nations also African's must have valid visa to enter European and North American nations.
ha noi yeu dau

UK

#18 Feb 24, 2010
Bob spong wrote,
go and read comment,

I do not mention any orther country,
just you I am talking about.

your Education in HO CHI MINH,REGARDING VIETNAM IMMIGRATION

YOU SAID THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.
if you have been education in AFRICA REGARDING the immigration law is difference matter.

dung la lu khong xuong nhieu duong lac leo.
mieng khong danh mieng meo tu tung.

I am not go to read any orther people subject. why did not you clarifies to the AMERICAN immigration LAW verdict.?

that what you learner from Ho chi minh school ?

SAYING SOME WHICH IT DOES NOT FORM ANY BASIC.

THANK YOU BOBSPONG
SpongeBob

Toronto, Canada

#19 Feb 24, 2010
ha noi yeu dau wrote:
Bob spong wrote,
go and read comment,
I do not mention any orther country,
just you I am talking about.
your Education in HO CHI MINH,REGARDING VIETNAM IMMIGRATION
YOU SAID THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.
if you have been education in AFRICA REGARDING the immigration law is difference matter.
dung la lu khong xuong nhieu duong lac leo.
mieng khong danh mieng meo tu tung.
I am not go to read any orther people subject. why did not you clarifies to the AMERICAN immigration LAW verdict.?
that what you learner from Ho chi minh school ?
SAYING SOME WHICH IT DOES NOT FORM ANY BASIC.
THANK YOU BOBSPONG
I already ignored your cluelessness due to the story. But you tried to dig deep in that, then listen well here, Pal:
-Just go back to your very first comment(#1) regarded to the story of this thread, it seems you didn't have a clue of the problem. More over, it seems you carried with you the extreme mentality, full of hatred towards VN. Free of speech and free of thought, no one cares. But if regarded to the story of this thread, your thought was wrong. The case was refused by US immigration NOT BY Vietnam's. So what did you mean in your comment about "massage the leg" of interviewer and "envelop with HochiMinh-photos cashes"?
Of course I knew more than AVERAGE PEOPLE in term of immigration policy. That's why in my comment, it was stated VERY CLEAR AND DETAILS in this particular case... Just go back and reading your first comment again before spitting out your conclusion/judgement, baby!
ha noi yeu dau

UK

#20 Feb 24, 2010
Bobsponge wrote,Massage the legs.

yes Bob! you and I are spoken same language we understood our vietnamese culture do not we ?

because you that cause me dig down further.

because you seen to be show off more than what you all ready knew.

but you still did not answer to the question.

BOB this question very importance.
why do not you go to live with your,(husbund,wife) over there ?

any way I am sorries to cause any dis point to you, but that is very relevant.

ok I am off now, best wish.
BADS

Hanoi, Vietnam

#21 Feb 25, 2010
SpongeBob wrote:
<quoted text>
Go and read comment # 13. About conpare visas b/t the West versus vn is a different story. Not just VN, most of South East nations also African's must have valid visa to enter European and North American nations.
The problem is Vixi always copy-cat the law of different countries, but they are not smart enough to understand why different country has different law to fit their needs. Vietnam utilized law to accomodate for their personal purpose, not for the Vietnamese people. AHaaaaa

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